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Separation of Church & State: What the Founders Meant 1st Edition
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I am a big fan of David Barton's work. I think it is obvious for anyone who has read American history honestly (and is not on the ACLU's payroll) that Barton is correct about God's central role in America's founding, and foundation. However (and maybe I am not seeing something correctly) but, Separation of Church & State p.6 has three quotes that Mr. Barton uses that do not seem to match the official "Journal of the Senate" records from the same date referenced in his book for September 3, 1789.
Example #1: Mr. Barton's quote: "Congress shall not make any law establishing any religious denomination." The Journal of the Senate's first version of the amendment states that Congress should not support any "one religious sect or society in preference to others."
Example #2 Mr. Barton's quote: "Congress shall make no law establishing any particular denomination." The Journal of the Senate states" Congress shall not make any law infringing the rights conscience, or establishing any religious sect or society."
It doesn't change his very valid points, but it is very important to me (especially considering what's at stake) that original sources are quoted accurately. If I am wrong in my amateur research please show me I will immediately apologize and change this post. I have included the link to The Journal of the Senate date in question. [...]
*** PLEASE NOTE *** after two years someone was able to show that Mr. Barton was indeed correct in using the quotes he did in this book. Barton's research WAS NOT "off" as I first asserted. I am sorry that I made this mistake, it was an honest one.Read more ›
Their statement was exactly the opposite of what Jefferson had said in his full letter. Jefferson had said that our First Amendment gave Churches and individuals the Freedom of Expression of Religion and that the State (the Government) would NEVER prohibit
that Freedom of Expression because the Constitution has created a SEPARATION of Church and State. Always before 1947, the Supreme Court had printed the full letter from Jefferson to the Danbury, Connecticut Baptists so one could easily ascertain what Jefferson had meant when he said, Churches and individuals had the FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
On that date, July 20, 2014, 33 individuals signed up to purchase this very pamphlet so that they could memorize and tell their friends and neighbors what our great historian, Dave Barton had researched and found to be TRUE.
All of us must understand the deception of the Supreme Court in the year of 1947.
But if you choose to read this book, abandon all hope! David Barton is a "shill," not a historian. He does not cite his sources accurately, he takes quotes (and misquotes) out of their context, he "cherry-picks" only the evidence that supports his point of view (without acknowledging conflicting information) and draws unsubstantiated conclusions or makes false assertions.
This is not a history book, and Barton is not a historian. As alternatives, here are six (6) excellent history books on the vast and complex subject of religion in early America: 1) The Founding Fathers and the Place of Religion in America by Frank Lambert; 2) The Faiths of the Founding Fathers by David Holmes; 3) So Help Me God by Forrest Church; 4) Founding Faith by Steven Waldman; 5) The Search for Christian America by Mark Noll, Nathan Hatch and George Marsden; and 6) Was America Founded as a Christian Nation by John Fea.
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This is a pamphlet, about the size of what gets handed out at church on Sundays.Published 3 months ago by spider63
Wanna Battle a LIBERAL & VERBALLY SLAP THEM SILLY!? BUY THIS AND READ IT!Published 3 months ago by thomas l donner
Great book!! Very short but still very good! David Barton is a great author ! I loved this book and immediately gave to a friend to read !Published 4 months ago by Tien
Very informative on what was really meant by our founders considering church and state! Must READ!Published 4 months ago by Jessica
David Barton books......nothing better when you want to correct some idiot with a government education (you know, the ones who are taught history that has little to do with the... Read morePublished 5 months ago by Dotado