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Shiner (2004)

Starring: Conny van Dyke, Scott Stepp Rating: Unrated Format: DVD
2.2 out of 5 stars See all reviews (13 customer reviews)

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Product Details

  • Actors: Conny van Dyke, Scott Stepp, Derris Nile, Nicholas T. King, David Zelina
  • Format: Closed-captioned, Color, DVD, Widescreen, NTSC
  • Language: English
  • Region: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only. Read more about DVD formats.)
  • Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1
  • Number of discs: 1
  • Rating: Unrated
  • Studio: TLA Releasing
  • DVD Release Date: October 19, 2004
  • Run Time: 89 minutes
  • Average Customer Review: 2.2 out of 5 stars See all reviews (13 customer reviews)
  • ASIN: B0002TT0A0
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #77,946 in Movies & TV (See Bestsellers in Movies & TV)

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An intensely original and daring film, Shiner explores the dark crevices of love, desire and passion. The film revolves around three couples whose intimate, intense and occasionally abusive relationships provide frameworks for love. Raw and edgy, Shiner details the story of people who engage in consensual physical and emotional abuse as part of their sexuality. DVD Extras: Director & Stars Commentary, Behind the Scenes footage.

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8 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Difficult But Worthwhile, January 10, 2005
Shiner is a difficult film for most folks. I can see why so many of the reviews are so 'nasty' considering the film itself is 'nasty'. Violence begets violence and a shocking films usually begets shocking reviews. I'm always interested in films that are scored so low and high with little else in between.

The film was marketed to a gay and lesbian audience (as the gay Fight Club) but it's scope is a lot larger. While it does have central gay themes it doesn't cater or appease most gay audiences. It does the opposite. I saw the film because I heard it had tons of walk-outs at festivals and that it had pissed off tons of viewers. I was very happy when I saw it was available on DVD.

The film was produced in a way as to make it seem bare. Like a porno or a snuff film, it looks bleak and scary. Violence erupts without notice and sex and sexuality is completely out of control. The attacks on the films quality are really attacks on its subject matter which is to equate homosexual relationships with relationships where couples like to 'hit' or 'abuse' each other. This is a heavy pill to swallow but one that's unique and refreshing from most independent films I've seen. When you listen to the audio commentary and watch the interview with Calson and the behind-the-scenes on the DVD, you'll understand that Calson was trying to piss folks off. He made choices actively. He was trying to make you aware you were watching a film. Shots go out of focus, sound blows out, actors in an emotional scene become actors in a porn scene. The film has a vacuum effect much like porn yet it's emotions and tragedy are farther reaching. The film belongs to a category of films called 'Anti-Films' or films where the medium doesn't try to suggest it's anything but that, film.

There is tons of nudity and the behavior is very ugly and downright gory, both physically and emotionally. The blood and violence exists on multiple planes in the same way that say 'Kill Bill' did. Sometimes blood is real looking and other times it looks fake and invites your laughter. The main movie I would compare Shiner to is 'The Piano Teacher', which is a very ugly character study of a sado-masochistic piano teacher by Michael Haneke. That film is equally disturbing and dirty yet pays off if you can laugh at it to release it's hold and pressure on you as well as let it get under your skin.

If you are looking for a film that you will either love or hate, then Shiner is for you. If you want a sweet romantic film that will allow you to forget your troubles and drift away into another world, then this isn't it. You have been warned. You will most likely love it or hate it and there'll be little in between. What is remarkable is that someone would make a film as daring and powerful their first time out. What is also worth examining is why someone would see the world this way and what Calson is trying to say about sex, gay culture, and violence. Perhaps that it exists without warning and commands so much of our terror and attention.
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13 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars What a Mess!, May 11, 2005
By G P Padillo "paolo" (Portland, ME United States) - See all my reviews
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What an unfortunate mess is "Shiner." I wanted to like this over-the-top, anti-film aspirant, and in fact found a number of moments with powerful resonance. Sadly, those moments are few and far between. While I appreciate some of what Calson was attempting, any advantage aspired to by bare bones, no budget cinematography was destroyed with some truly atrocious editing that benefited the movie not at all.

While bad acting abounds in low budget (and big budget) cinema, Shiner has some remarkably bad performances that are nearly painful to watch. In particular the "straight" couple Linda and Young Guy. These are the two most poorly written characters offering almost nothing to the story. The acting is so abysmal and neither actor seems capable of resisting smirking or cracking up as they drearily drop their lines with an appalling lack of skill. The choppy editing almost lends the feeling that these roles were entirely gratuitous and dropped in to avoid the films being stereotypically cast as an oddball gay film. It would have been better off as such.

With all that is going wrong for it, there are several performances that seem to capture what Calson was hoping to get. In particular the story centering on Bob and Tim. These are the two most richly drawn characters and offer the most rewards with genuinely captivating performances by Nicholas T. King (Bob) and David Zelinas (Tim). Tim is a boxer with some serious issues. Remarkably low self esteem is disguised by an almost cartoon like arrogance that he wears like armour plating. Obsessed with Tim, the seemingly harmless yet ultimately creepy Bob, stalks the boxer in clasic cat-and-mouse fashion. When the tables are turned and hunter becomes the hunted, the resulting in the film's only genuine emotional catharsis. In a film so artificially hard-edged (that's a compliment) one character MUST have that revelatory break through (or breakdown, as the case proves here) and the final confrontation between Bob and Tim provide Zelinas and King opportunity to display some real acting chops.

As played by Scott Stepp and Derris Nile, Tony and Danny seem to be the focus of the movie, and despite some bravado moments of their own (including one truly disturbing scene revealing the sex/violence obsession), but they can't seem to escape a cartoon-like artifice and it's difficult to look at - or beyond their seeming one note symphony and find anything other than the obvious.

Ultimately this same raw material could (and should) be used to tell this story in better fashion. Alas, there really isn't much to recommend this yet, the performances by Messrs. King and Zelinas, really do offer something special and a glimpse of what might have been and are ultimately worth seeing.
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12 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Is there a rating lower than 1 star??, December 14, 2004
By ardar88 (Falls Church, VA USA) - See all my reviews
A complete waste of time. This is an incomprehensible non-movie about a bunch of low-life sado-masochists.

The camera work, done with a single hand held camera will make you dizzy as will the incompetent editing. There's no plot that I could keep track of. I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent. If I don't "get it," and I don't, the problem isn't with me.

The make-up effects are laughable. I think they used red nail polish to simulate blood. Even ketchup would have worked better.

An even better choice would be to skip this waste of time entirely. How do movies this bad ever get produced? It's a mystery...
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5.0 out of 5 stars EXCELLENT film! Could watch it over and over!!!
I don't know what the reviewer "Gordon Larko" is smoking. For some reason, he feels compelled to leave the EXACT SAME horrible review and 1 STAR rating for all GAY-THEMED movies... Read more
Published 4 months ago by L. Stevens

1.0 out of 5 stars What the...?????
Probably the lamest waste of my money. Wait... the lamest waste of time making, production money, etc... Read more
Published 7 months ago by A. Avendano

3.0 out of 5 stars Low-Budget
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"Shiner" has great promise and could be so much better but don't let that stop you from... Read more
Published on May 11, 2007 by Amos Lassen

1.0 out of 5 stars Horribly Amateurish
I'm all for giving aspiring filmmakers and actors a break, but this film is such a clunker it's painful to watch. Read more
Published on July 31, 2006 by Jack M. Walter

3.0 out of 5 stars "Hit me!"
Badly acted, poorly photographed, and with a script that is made up mostly of profanity, Shiner has very little to recommend it, and to say that the film warrants merit because it... Read more
Published on August 12, 2005 by M. J Leonard

1.0 out of 5 stars Not worth your time or money.
Ordinarily, I would recommend renting a film that I consider pretty awful instead of wasting hard earned money buying it. But this dreadful piece of crap isn't worthy of a $3. Read more
Published on April 26, 2005 by Robert Byrd

1.0 out of 5 stars An Unpleasant Experience
I like movies alot I have a ton of them. But this movie just made me feel sick and empty. Not even worth renting.
Published on January 20, 2005 by Thomas M. Schnyder

1.0 out of 5 stars I missed the point
Shiner was one of the poorest investments I've made in a while. The camera work appears to be hand held camcorder. Read more
Published on November 10, 2004 by T. Hulse

1.0 out of 5 stars NO SHINE IN THIS DUD
One of the very worst gay movies I have ever seen.You know it will get worse when the credits are out of focus,the acting non-existant,no story,an affair between a man and a... Read more
Published on November 3, 2004 by Peter Fraser

4.0 out of 5 stars SHINER KICKS BUTT
They called it the 'gay Fight Club'. Huh?

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Published on August 27, 2004 by Edge Lover

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