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14 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Appreciating an often ridiculed movement
Growing up in a mainline denomination, I was first identified as a "fundamentalist" by a lady in my church who was my Sunday School teacher when I was younger. At that time, I didn't know what a fundamentalist was. I simply believed the Bible was wholly true. Later on, I tried very hard to shed that label. I still believed the Bible, but I rejected...
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3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting reflections... will definitely revisit
I am a former evangelical, and have come to the point in my pilgrimage where I am able to offer a more balanced assessment of my evangelical past. Mouw, on the other hand, was brought up fundamentalist (in the historic sense of the word), is now evangelical, and tries here to reflect positively on what he gained from his fundamentalist heritage.

I should admit from the...

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14 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Appreciating an often ridiculed movement, February 22, 2001
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This review is from: Smell of Sawdust, The (Paperback)
Growing up in a mainline denomination, I was first identified as a "fundamentalist" by a lady in my church who was my Sunday School teacher when I was younger. At that time, I didn't know what a fundamentalist was. I simply believed the Bible was wholly true. Later on, I tried very hard to shed that label. I still believed the Bible, but I rejected dispensationalism, started to see that I could learn things from other streams of Christianity including (gasp!) Catholicism, and enjoyed "forbidden" pleasures like going to movies, listening to rock music, and playing cards. Richard Mouw, president of Fuller Seminary, points out that many of the values he learned growing up as a true-blue fundamentalist are nothing to be ashamed of, but rather to be appreciated. Indeed, there are many good things about fundamentalism that modern-day evangelicals can still embrace. There are some very helpful discussions included in this book. Some of the chapters deal with evangelical relationships with Catholics and Jews, the benefits of dispensationalism (many have come to Christ by reading Hal Lindsey, as much as some of us would hate to admit it), and social/political activism. The final chapter discusses "the simplicity beyond complexity", the fact that with all our theological sophistication we can still come to a place of wonder and simplicity. I, like Mouw, still would not call myself a fundamentalist, but there are still lessons to be learned from the old "sawdust trail".
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Real 'sawdust' is better than a 'wooden' religion, December 13, 2001
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Keith Johnston (Berkeley, CA United States) - See all my reviews
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This is a great book. Although it is short, it makes some significant points about the strengths and weaknesses of the fundamentalist movement in America. Written by Richard Mouw, president of Fuller Seminary, the book draws upon Mouw's personal experiences growing up, as well as with his later evaluation of those experiences using his tools as a philosophy professor. I grew up in a liberal mainline denomination and found myself, both in college and later, drawn to the passion and committment of a more conservative faith. This books helps to explain this attraction. It is must reading for anyone 'burned' by 'fundies' or anyone who looks at fundamentalism with the smug prejudice of a pharisee.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Catholic gets better understanding of Fundamentalists, December 12, 2002
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Marshall Fritz (Fresno, CA United States) - See all my reviews
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A very close friend, a Baptist and supporter of Fuller Seminary, lent me "The Smell of Sawdust." As an ardent Catholic, I read it with ready-to-be-offended Catholic radar. Never was. Indeed, his treatment of Fr. George Rutler was quite nice, and Rutler is a hero of mine. For professional as well as personal reasons, I like reading about the differences between Fundamentalists and Evangelicals. George Marsden's "Reforming Fundamentalism: Fuller Seminary and the New Evangelicalism" is also very good.
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4.0 out of 5 stars simplicity beyond complexity, January 17, 2007
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Daniel B. Clendenin (www.journeywithjesus.net) - See all my reviews
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Few things today are more fashionable than a condescending dismissal of all things fundamentalist. True, there is legitimate material there, but Mouw reminds believers that there is much in that tradition for which we ought to be thankful. He should know. He grew up with impeccable fundamentalist credentials, tent meetings and all, and so he remembers the sweet smell of sawdust. Since that deeply personal heritage he has moved quite a distance and now serves as president of Fuller Theological Seminary. He is a regular participant in cutting edge religious issues with a broad and deep spectrum of conversation partners--Muslim dialogue, the Orthodox church, faith in the public arena, and so on. So, he is well placed to come full circle, from the popular sport of rejecting fundamentalism to reaffirming what is good in that tradition.

Mouw quotes two people in his final chapter to explain what he is after. Paul Ricoeur once referred to what he called a "second naivete." Oliver Wendell Holmes put it this way: "I do not give a fig for the simplicity that is prior to complexity; but I would give my right arm for the simplicity that lies beyond complexity" (p. 151). It is all too easy to see things in black and white, in uncomplicated, simplistic terms. Like any movement, though, fundamentalism is far too complex for such a dismissive attitude. But when you engage all the critical questions which fundamentalism deserves, there can be no romantic return, but there can be an honest appreciation for all that is good in the movement--radical commitment to the Gospel, a commitment to the Biblical story, and a sense of wonder in God's great grace.
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting reflections... will definitely revisit, February 29, 2004
This review is from: Smell of Sawdust, The (Paperback)
I am a former evangelical, and have come to the point in my pilgrimage where I am able to offer a more balanced assessment of my evangelical past. Mouw, on the other hand, was brought up fundamentalist (in the historic sense of the word), is now evangelical, and tries here to reflect positively on what he gained from his fundamentalist heritage.

I should admit from the offset that Mouw was in general far too soft on fundamentalism for my tastes. But then, as he candidly admits, his "lengthy exposure to fundamentalism has not left [him] badly bruised," though he acknowledges for many others such is not the case.

I should also confess that I found some of his areas of agreement with fundamentalism a little puzzling: He seems to accept almost unquestioningly that a decline in "Christian" standards in society is reason for political action; he appears to suggest that if a book by Hal Lindsey can lead someone to Christ, dispensationalism is, in some small way, vindicated (could God be speaking despite Lindsey's dispensationalism rather than because of it?); indeed, Mouw has a habit of finding good points and then using them to vindicate fundamentalism, if only partially, but they are too often unconvincing (eg. dispensationalism is vindicated because it addresses the need for Christians to know something about the future -- a debatable point in any case -- but could you not vindicate Seventh-Day Adventism, or indeed any scheme of eschatological prediction, in the same way?).

Having said that, Mouw does manage to put across something of the "warm piety" of fundamentalist religion, the emphasis on closeness to and personal relationship with God. Indeed, that is what I will carry on with me from evangelicalism, despite its failings. He also reminds us of the danger of a Christianity that simply becomes an ideology (so early liberalism, in many respects), a matter of following a set of teachings, divorced from any concept of an actual atoning work of God in Jesus Christ. And even if Mouw does tend to be a little too easy-going on fundamentalism, he does offer a perceptive, albeit gentle, critique on several important points. Lastly, he models a good attitude that many of us who have left behind our religious upbringings would do well to learn from -- one of a certain amount of respect, appreciation and fair analysis.

I recommend this book for fundamentalists, as it certainly will present them with a challenge, for evangelicals who wish to understand fundamentalists better, and for those who have left fundamentalism or, like myself, have moved on from evangelicalism altogether.

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5.0 out of 5 stars great work, March 27, 2010
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Every now and again, you find a work that just resonates with you. This is one of those for me.

I know what Mouw is talking about when he speaks of the tension that suspends him between fully rejecting his roots and feeling a sting when they're attacked.

I was raised in a situation that, while not being completely fundamentalist in the popular uses of the word, embodied some of the negative and damaging characteristics of the movement. Mouw points out that there is a lot that can be gleaned from such a heritage, even while trying to distance yourself from it.

It is a fair, honest treatment with lots of personal anecdotes and frank insights. I recommend it to everyone from mainline Protestants to former fundies who are searching for a more authentic and cohesive community of faith.
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9 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars The sawdust smells fine, but the leftism doesn't, February 20, 2003
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The author, president of Fuller Theological Seminary and former professor of philosophy is, I'm afraid, a bit of a lefty politically. His basic thesis is that, while American fundamentalism does indeed have some shortcomings (e.g. anti-intellectualism, otherworldliness, legalistic separatistism), we should appreciate its positive aspects and be very careful to preserve the baby while disposing of the bathwater. The trouble is, he believes the bathwater should include any remaining conservative/libertarian political ideas!

During the 1960s, the author bought into the leftist "social justice" critique of America, believing Old Testament biblical warnings (e.g. Amos) indicated injustice in the "systems and structures" of our society. He describes how his pro-MLK Jr., pro-civil rights movement and anti-Vietnam war feelings ran against the grain of many of his evangelical associates and how he sought to "ground" his newfound moral convictions (i.e. to justify political leftism as being endorsed by Jesus, the Bible and traditional evangelical piety). Much later, he spoke to a Christian audience on these themes and was afterward confronted by a man who said "you didn't learn that stuff from the Bible - you got it from Karl Marx!" The author responded by quoting an old hymn:

I'd rather have Jesus than silver or gold,
I'd rather have Him than riches untold;
I'd rather have Jesus than houses or lands,
I'd rather be true to His nail-pierced hands.

He then added "Once you've learned your lessons in economics from the songs of George Beverly Shea, Karl Marx comes off as pretty tame!" Dr. Mouw apparently believes that these implications point toward a position to the left of Karl Marx himself on the political scale! This would presumably mean applying the "social justice" methods of marshalling the coercive force of government to address (in a Marxist/leftist way) these issues of "justice and peace and social righteousness and faith's implications for a life of learning." It is unclear to me why a declaration that Jesus is more important than any worldly good is somehow inconsistent with politically conservative principles like free enterprise, limited government and individual liberty or should lead to support for forced government redistribution of such goods (playing to the covetousness forbidden by the 10th commandment and in direct violation of the 8th commandment against theft).

While I certainly agree that evangelicals should "develop a competent literature in every field of study," I would caution that the great temptation will be for unwary Christians, anxious to achieve cultural and scholarly "sophistication" and acknowledgement, to adopt uncritically the huge, well-developed and, at most universities, dominant, body of left-leaning academic perspective.

He assumes the leftist view that the Vietnam war was bad, in principle, vs. the conservative view that it was justified, but poorly executed (due to leftist leadership). He also assumes that leftist characterization and critique of such things as "unjust wars, oppressive racism, unbridled materialism" are on the mark, which I don't accept. He sees inconsistency in a man who opposed civil rights legislation (preferring racist attutudes be changed one by one though conversion), but then wanted to ban the teaching of evolution in public schools (the answer in both cases is to respect private property, maximizing civil society and minimizing political society, giving individual conscience the widest possible latitude).

He believes postmodernism has had some positive effects within the Christian community, bringing more openness to enduring mystery. My view is that the postmodern movement is an overreaction (with sour-grapes radical leftist, atheist roots to boot). In short, retain the Enlightenment, with its optimistic emphasis on reason and rationality (made possible by the light of God's Truth), but lose the leftist, progressivist faith in government (often to the point of replacing faith in God) to solve all of humanity's problems.

He discusses the dual nature of the gospel, personal and cosmic. It wonderfully allows us to sing "It is Well with my Soul" but, as we look around, we can see that all is not well with our world. He claims that this latter "enterprise we evangelicals have often failed to pursue with any sustained sense of urgency." But of course the key here is diagnosing the problem and suggesting cures, the leftist call for more government or the conservative/libertarian (and American founding) call for free enterprise, limited government, individual liberty, traditional values. Could it be that his sense of evangelical failure here is related to his committment to the leftist approach (in spite of its record of spectacular failure and even linkage to unbelief) and failure to see the true path to societal or "cosmic" wholeness in conservative approaches derived from the Judeo-Christian western heritage?

The author admits that some of his annoyance with the "inerrants" is related to their resistance to his (and others') calls for "social justice" (citing Amos' identity with the "oppressed," they'd respond that Amos was speaking in a theocratic dispensation and doesn't apply today...I'd respond that real oppression requires state support and the best way to minimize oppression is to effectively minimize state power, and furthermore that "social justice" inspired welfare-state schemes lead to still more oppression).

Bottom line; leaning left politically will eventually and inevitably lead to liberal theology (on the way to unbelief), watering down the fundamentals of the faith (to say nothing of losing our God-inspired American heritage of freedoms). That the leader of Fuller Seminary leans left politically is worrisome for the future effectiveness of Fuller (if not for the future of evangelicalism). Leaving aside his leftist assumptions, do I accept his criticisms of fundamentalism? Hmmm. Some of those criticisms emerge from his leftist perspective. Those I reject. Some of them, however, seem on the mark, particularly the call to abandon anti-intellectualism, exclusive otherworldliness and the separatistic spirit (enforced by legalism). In short, I agree with some of his diagnosis of the problems, but dispute most of his prescribed cures. In my opinion, most political leftists (Christian or not), with their big-government "solutions," antibusiness and anti-American attitudes are part of the problem, not the solution.

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0 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Not as thorough as I'd hoped, October 27, 2006
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As an evangelical, I had reason to read this book. I was hoping for a compelling history of our fundamentalist origins along with insights into what we've discarded from our heritage and what we've adapted to become what we are.

Instead, the book was mostly personal ramblings.

Since I was wanting thoughtful history rather than mere memory, I have to say I was disappointed.
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