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5.0 out of 5 stars
Massive in size, expense and in results!, November 15, 2008
This review is from: Smooth Fitness Agile DMT Trainer (Sports)
In my personal effort to keep our economy moving, I decided to make my otherwise unused living room (save for the 2 dog crates that is) into a home gym. I have an old stationary bike, so we moved that into the space from my bedroom. I set out then to buy a treadmill and elliptical. I researched what to buy for days. I've never owned an elliptical, but have used a friends and know they give good workouts. I was not intending to spend this much money on one, but I was intrigued by the reviews that the Agile was part of the new technology. It seems that the arc-type trainers can give many more muscle groups a workout, and Smooth Fitness touts that you can strength and cardio train at the same time. I decided to bite the proverbial bullet and ordered one from their website. They sent me emails detailing the common-carrier freight shipping. It took around 2 weeks from the order until delivery.
My first real comment, besides the fact that you drop a lot of cash to buy this thing, is that you'd better be prepared for it's arrival, both mentally and physically. Smooth has a video and the manual on it's website that outlines how to put the thing together. I watched the video prior to the arrival and felt I was prepared. WRONG. This thing is so big, I can't even describe it. There are 2 boxes it is shipped in. The SMALL box weighs nearly 150lbs. The large box is truly huge. I'm so glad I was putting it into my relatively empty living room. It weighs some 330pounds. Now, I'd like to take a moment to describe my ability to put things together. In my 39 years, I have successfully assembled literally hundreds of pieces of furniture. I've even lent myself out to friends who are assembly-impaired. I've done massive desks, cribs, bookshelves, tables, credenzas, I mean you name it, I've assembled it. I'm good at it and I like doing it. Most things I do all by myself because I'm a perfectionist and I follow directions to a T. Ok, so you get the idea. Now, despite the manual and the video (which I kept referencing religiously as things spiralled out of control) it took me 8 HOURS to put this thing together. No lie. It was absolutely the most horrific experience I've had. This thing is zip tied by some sadists when they pack it. Don't get me wrong, I know it needs to be secure for shipping, but I had real problems just cutting some of the ties. In the video they just touch them with their box cutter and they break. Not in reality. I used a combination of box cutter, wire cutters and sharp scissors and really struggled. Also, I feel the manual is not easy to follow. It refers to pieces by name but there is no diagrams that name the major pieces. There are diagrams with the whole thing blown apart, but it contains every piece, down to the last screw, so it's way too overwhelming to figure out what is what. In the end, I was able to assemble the entire thing by myself, but it is definitely not for the faint of heart. I consider this the Everest of assembly required.
Now, given that it took me 8 hours of literal blood, sweat and tears (and cursing), how is it? Well, mine is still on top of it's cardboard box in the middle of the living room. It's so heavy, I can't lift it to roll it on its handy wheels to move it. I'm waiting for an unsuspecting friend to visit and be recruited to help me. I have jumped on briefly, and I just in the two minutes I was trying it out I felt different muscle groups burning with each change on the "motion" button. Love the thumb "motion" and "intensity" controls. One other beef I have with the manual is it is horrible at describing how to operate the thing. I would like to know what each of the 11 different motions actually is or what muscle groups each one targets. I can't find that information anywhere. There are no youtube videos of people using this thing or workouts posted. I suppose it's price point keeps it from being a wide-spread product. Anyway, I'm looking forward to really using it. I'll post an update in a few weeks detailing how I've done with it.
******Update****** 12/13/08
So, I've been working out about 6x/week so far. I've lost 25 pounds since I started, and am clearly more fit than when I first began this new program. The first day I got on the Agile, I couldn't last more than a minute or two without stopping. Now I can go for as long as I want to on motion 1, intensity 1. I've gotten a polar HRM, which the Agile does pick up BTW, and if I get on the Agile and start at 1,1 it takes forever to get my HR up to my target...clearly I've improved! Generally, I'm doing 15 minutes on the agile and then I'm doing HIIT intervals on my bike for the rest of the time. I really like the Agile. First I warm up on my bike, then I jump on the Agile and go to motion 12, which is a very short stride length that is very deep--it's like high stepping and really gets my HR up to the target after a minute or so my quads are screaming. Then I usually go to motion 1 or 2. The lower the motion number, the longer the stride. Motion 1 is really comfortable for me and I can go all day on it. I'm having to increase the intensity at times to keep my HR where I want it. I also sometimes go backwards to work out my calves. I'm doing strength training too, and I'm really seeing the results in my leg muscles. I really love this machine...for a while, I had hurt my ankles..I think doing lunges with dumbells...and I couldn't do anything but the Agile and my bike. I really sweat with this workout and it feels great. Quibbles..still the readout on the machine. I don't like it much at all. But, I use my polar monitor to figure out how long I've been in my target zone, so I guess it doesn't matter. It is a very large machine, and dominates the room; however it looks good. I had one delivery guy say how impressed he was by the looks of the machine. So, overall still 5 stars! I highly recommend it if you have the desire and the savings to grab one of these!!
****Update, one year after purchase*****
Glad to say things are still going well. I've lost 110 pounds. I'm in good cardiac shape-my resting heart rate is now in the 40s. My cardio workouts vary from day to day, but I walk, run, elliptical, play racquetball, row and swim. I joined a gym for the swimming and racquetball part; they have tons of ellipticals, but I don't like any of them nearly as well as I like my agile DMT. So I still do my elliptical workouts all at home. With the different motion settings on this machine and with strength training, I've seen very impressive muscle development in my legs. I've had no problems at all with the machine: it works just as it did on day one. No maintenance issues or anything else. Very glad I bought it, as I owe a large part of my early weight loss and now continuing success to the use of this machine.
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11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Awsome - that about explain it - except for one thing, February 16, 2009
We purchased this directly from Smooth Fitness on January 20 and received it on February 4. I had a problem with the ordering process and Keith, their VP of Sales knocked another 5 % off and threw in an extra heart monitor strap.
We opted to set the unit up ourselves which was not very difficult; here are some tips that made installation easy for us:
Be prepared to have a large space for assembly as there are three large boxes and parts need to be staged.
Use your own tools
Have an extra pair of hands
Have Smooth mail you the installation video on DVD prior to delivery (they do this free of charge) and watch it 2-3 times before opening anything.
It took us close two hours to assemble the unit. It goes to together relatively easily if you've watched the assembly video prior to doing anything. Most of the bolts are hex heads and the tolerances when fitting two or more pieces together was great. I did not have to push or pull to get any holes to line up. We did have one problem though - several of the outer panels were broke in transit, but that did not prevent us from continuing as these were cosmetic pieces. A call to Smooth and they had them in my hands in two days.
Once the unit was together I was amazed at the size of this thing, it takes up much more room than I anticipated even when I outlined the footprint for the wife with a chalk line. The unit is very stable, we have been using it for two weeks and there is no wobble in this thing at all.
My dislikes about the Agile DMT:
* Too much plastic for my liking. Everything that is cosmetic on this unit is plastic (outer panels, motion panels, console's outer shell, foot pedal covers).
* At this price point I expected stamped aluminum but when I called about the broken push pins on the outer panels I was told the units are manufactured in Taiwan then shipped around the world. More reason than ever to get away from plastic but then again there is the weight issue when it comes to shipping. In any event Smooth sent out new panels at no cost to me.
* I don't like the feel of the buttons on the console
* The water bottle holder is useless based on the angle the console sits at and its length, the bottle points toward your stomach and is too close to you while on the machine
* Don't care for the shrouded covers on the pedals that conceal your toes
* Requires you to use an on/off switch at the back of the unit, not a self powered unit
As far as the unit's ability to deliver a great workout, this machine does just that, it can make your life miserable during the time you are on it depending on how hard you want to push yourself. The motion arms are what really delivers a unique workout experience. As you increase the motion, the pedal rotates to a higher position which is akin to climbing steep terrain and the stride length shortens. If you really want an extreme workout, use the Endurance program and set the intensity level = 5 motion =4 at startup. I go 45 minutes on this program and at the peak of the workout the intensity level is at 12, motion=10 and my legs and lungs are screaming - it is not the type of workout you can get from the standard elliptical trainer.
The handlebars have built in pulse monitors that are pretty accurate. In addition, at the top of each handlebar is the resistance setting (left) and motion setting (right). You use your thumb to increase or decrease either setting and it is a very nice feature. I don't have to take my eyes off anything to change either setting, unlike some elliptical where you have to find the buttons then press them. The contour of these controllers makes finding and adjusting them a snap.
I am not sure why but I get a very good upper body workout with this machine compared to the Star Trac machines I use at the gym. My chest and back muscles really get worked and I can feel it for a period of time after my workout.
The console is fine; it serves it purpose although I do not like the feel of the buttons. There are plenty of programs although I wish you could save your favorite settings. There is a scroll feature which is a must for me. There is not a numeric keypad so you have to adjust your time, weight, age, etc. using the intensity buttons which means you go up or down one unit at a time. The units move fast but I would rather see a numeric keypad where I can punch in what I want rather than fiddle and hear all those beeps. There is a place for the water bottle they send you but the angle of the console is so steep that it makes it very cumbersome to use. On each side of the water bottle placeholder are two compartments that will hold your IPod, keys or anything else you would like to put in there.
The pedals take time to get use to. They articulate (forward and back) so your feet stay in constant contact with the pedal. I find my feet don't lift off the pedal because of this feature but for some reason - not sure if it is the pedal design or what - I can't get going as fast as I could on other units. On the Star Trac I could get the RPMs up to 206, on the Agile, the fastest I've been able to go is 188. I wish you had the option of removing the shrouded covers that conceal your toes. I like to raise my toes and put more force on my heels now and then but these shrouds get in the way of me doing that.
As mentioned earlier, the unit is heavy and very stable. I am 6'1" tall and weigh 215 lbs and there is no wobble at all. I have no balance problems when I use this without my hands placed on the unit. Going backwards - be prepared, it's harder than other units, especially if you have the motion setting > 5.
I have not tried the heart monitor yet with the heart pacing program so I can't say anything about that other than one exists.
All in all, we really enjoy this unit, it looks mean and delivers an awesome workout. It is flexible enough to give my wife a controlled workout and I can really beat myself up with it when I want to. I cannot place all settings at maximum and work out on the thing, it is just too tough and that's what I like about this machine the most. It has a lot a reserve so as you increase your fitness level, there is plenty of space in the upper end of this machine to accommodate those of us who really like to take things to the next level.
If you are considering a fitness machine I would give this one serious consideration, even with all the plastic components. Most of the complaints I have are minor and don't impact functionality. We have a treadmill by Smooth and they stand behind their products. They go above and beyond to make things right contrary to a previous review.
This machine is built strong where it counts and it has a wide range to accommodate the fitness level of almost anyone or this I give it 5 stars. The only reason this overall review gets four stars is for the plastic components at this price point.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Great workout but needs parts occasionally, May 20, 2009
This review is from: Smooth Fitness Agile DMT Trainer (Sports)
I purchased my Agile DMT August 2008 and had it installed for me, so the assembly was not an issue. The machine is massive and weighs just under 400 pounds. I love the workout, especially with the 12 different motion settings, which amounts to an adjustable stride/motion. My wife uses motion level 3 while I use motion level 10. The workouts are rigorous, mine is Intensity Level 10 and Motion Level 10 for 95-100 minutes. I use the Target Distance of 6.00 (miles I assume) which takes anywhere from 90 to 100 minutes at the 10/10 level settings.
We ran into problems with the trainer right away. Within 3 weeks, ours was squeaking loudly. I think the problem is that we've put the machine on a rubber pad that then sits on a padded wall to wall carpet. This allows the machine to flex some, which I think is introducing the squeaks. There are o-rings at some of the pivot points and these may be contributing to the noise. It was loud enough that it becomes unbearable. Service technicians came out twice, but didn't know how to stop the noise. Eventually after 2-3 months, we must've worn out the friction points 'cause it finally quieted down.
Then, we had to replace the plastic pedals 3 months into owning it. The left pedal just broke apart and the right pedal showed stress cracks. I think it's due to my wife (120 lbs) using her toes and lifting her heels. The toes contact the center of the pedals, but the pedal supports are under the front and rear of the foot, leaving the center unsupported. We ordered new pedals, but had to wait 3 weeks to get them. Finally, we were back in business.
A couple months later, the Intensity level wouldn't stay on the setting you select... it would ramp up to 20, which is too intense for a sustained workout. The thumb control would bring it back down temporarily, but within a second or two it would ramp to 20 again. The constant battle to hold the intensity at 10 was maddening. Finally, I discovered that if I unplugged the thumb control cable, I could use the console button to set the level and it worked fine. So I used this workaround for another 3 weeks until the service technician arrived with parts to fix it. There is a cross bar between the two handles that the thumb control wires route through. The manufacturing plant uses zip-ties to secure the wire to the crossbar, but do it so tightly that it can pinch the wires. Eventually, the motion of the arms must expose or break the wire which must be grounding it such that it ramps onto 20. The new crossbar has no zip-ties so the wires can move with the handle (hidden inside the assembly).
Things have been going fine... we love the workouts, lost some weight and feel thoroughly excercised. But now we have to order two more pedals, because the left one is broken again and the right is cracked. It appears that the pedals last about 4 months the way we use it. I weigh 180 lbs, but keep my feet flat on the pedal where the supports underneath it are. My wife is 120 lbs but uses her toes in the center of the pedals. We'll see if I can get replacement pedals any quicker this time, but I'm not holding my breath. When I talked to a customer rep, he indicated that they have re-designed pedals with thicker plastic and no toe caps, so we'll see if they've solved this problem.
We miss being able to workout when the machine is down, so it's very frustrating. All-in-all, I gave this machine 4-stars because it's such a good workout. But, the reliablity has suffered due to plastic parts and the pinched wires. The service has been poor to average. If I had it to do over again, I might still purchase this machine because the competition for dynamic motion trainers is limited and the workout is great, but I'd sure hunt around for an alternative due to the bugs we're encountering with it.
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