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Some People, Some Other Place [Hardcover]

J. California Cooper (Author)
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October 19, 2004

J. California Cooper returns with a sweeping novel about love and heartbreak, perseverance and luck, telling her tale with an insight and grace that reaffirms Alice Walker’s words of praise for her previous works: “Her style is deceptively simple and direct and the vale of tears in which her characters reside is never so deep that a rich chuckle at a person’s foolishness cannot be heard.”

In her acclaimed novels and short stories, J. California Cooper has created moving portraits of people striving to make their way in a hard, often unjust world. Whether it explores the blatant racial and class biases of nineteenth-century America or the more subtle forms of discrimination that exist today, “It is the universality of her themes that has made Ms. Cooper’s work popular,” as the Dallas Morning News has written.

Some People, Some Other Place is Cooper’s biggest, most far-reaching novel to date. A multigenerational tale, it is set in a town called “Place,” on a street named “Dream Street.” In the words of the novel’s narrator, “the block surely had about it a feeling of long accumulation of history, of life, of many lives intertwined.” As she chronicles the interlocking lives of the residents of Dream Street, Cooper places the stories of the individuals and their families within the wider context of America’s social and economic history. We meet the narrator’s great grandparents, who left the poverty of the Deep South in 1895 and made their way to a farm in Oklahoma; her grandparents, who continued the northward journey with their eyes on the promised jobs of the industrial Midwest but were forced to settle without reaching their goal; and her mother, who finishes the journey and discovers that life at 903 Dream Street carries new burdens as well as rewards. The neighbors on the block are people of all colors, all striving to overcome personal troubles and disappointments, and all holding fast to their dreams of a better life.


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An unborn child narrates Cooper's earthy fourth novel, which, through a minute exploration of the lives and loves of the residents of Dream Street in the town of Place, aims to unveil the vastness of human experience. At the heart of the novel is the narrator's future mother, Eula Too. Born to a poor African-American family in a small town outside of Chicago, Eula Too spent her early years caring for her numerous younger siblings, finding time to sneak away for lessons with a beloved teacher and letting an impotent chauffeur touch her for spending money. When she eventually flees home, hoping for a better life in Depression-era Chicago, she is raped and abandoned, only to be discovered by the rich owner of a high-class brothel. Madame LaFon takes Eula Too in, not as a future prostitute but as a friend. The years pass and Eula Too, now a loving, moral young woman, accompanies Madame to her hometown of Place, where she endeavors to turn the neighborhood into a haven of love and goodwill. A certain didacticism—about politics, rich-poor relations and the importance of morality—gives the tale added depth, if also a kind of heavy-handedness. Cooper's (The Wake of the Wind) simple, plain writing and unequivocal regard for all people stand out in a novel scattered in narrative but united in its humanity.
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"I have not been born . . . yet," Cooper begins her intriguing novel, which features a not-yet-born narrator following the life of her chosen family. The not yet born have some freedom to choose their families and possess knowledge of life and people that they gradually lose after birth. The narrator provides running commentary on world events, human frailty, and the life of her poor black descendants as they move from sharecropping in the rural South to Chicago and finally a small town called Place, under much improved circumstances. Eula Too, the narrator's mother-to-be, survives grinding poverty and rape at a tender age to find refuge as a companion to a wealthy white woman operating a high-class brothel. Madame and Eula Too develop a binding friendship that serves as the nexus for examining friendships and family relationships across generations, race and ethnicity, and class against the backdrop of the Depression, the world wars, and the civil rights movement. Cooper's universal sensibilities and strong character development are on full display in this provocative novel. Vanessa Bush
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Product Details

  • Hardcover: 384 pages
  • Publisher: Doubleday; 1st edition (October 19, 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0385496826
  • ISBN-13: 978-0385496827
  • Product Dimensions: 9.3 x 6.1 x 1.1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.4 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (42 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,341,345 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

More About the Author

J. California Cooper was honored as Black Playwright of the Year, and has received the American Book Award, the James Baldwin Writing Award, and the Literary Lion Award from the American Library Association. She lives in California.

 

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27 of 30 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars The Journey, October 29, 2004
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The RAWSISTAZ Reviewers (RAWSISTAZ.com and BlackBookReviews.net) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Some People, Some Other Place (Hardcover)
Waiting to be conceived, the narrator in SOME PEOPLE, SOME OTHER
PLACE watches Earth with great interest, especially a young lady
named Eula Too, the narrator's future mother.

Born to a dirt poor family in a dirt poor town a hundred miles south
of Chicago in the early 1900's, Eula Too had no life of her own.
Instead, she was made to care for her numerous younger siblings, her
mother-who acted as if her job was to have babies, and the household
which was barely more than a run down shack. By the time she was
fifteen, she was burned out. So when her mother tells her she is
pregnant, yet again, she walks out to find her own life.

Over the past year an impotent man has been giving Eula Too money to
allow him to rub up against her. She's been saving her money and
plans on using it to get her start in Chicago. The man, a chauffer,
drives to Chicago twice a week and agrees to take her with him on
his next run. On the ride to Chicago, the man allows his friend to
rape her, then the men leave her stranded on the road.

Eula Too is found along the road by Madam Lafon, owner of a high-
class brothel just outside of Chicago. The madam takes Eula Too in
and nurses her back to health. Something about this young girl's
innocence touches the madam's heart. She gives Eula Too a job as her
personal assistant and over the years the two become friends.

Now in her thirties, Eula Too realizes she still does not have a
life or anything of her own. Even her spoiled child, a result of the
rape and the narrator's sister, considers herself to be better than
her mother and disassociates herself from her family. When Eula Too
is in a town named Place helping Madam Lafon make funeral
arrangements for her mother, she decides she will stay in Place and
start a life of her own.

Madam Lafon is jealous of this new life of Eula Too's. She'd kept
her close to the brothel so she wouldn't have to share her. And now
there is a man interested in Eula Too. What if her only true friend
falls for this man? The older woman can't bear the thought of dying
alone. She must make Eula Too see that this man is beneath her and
stop this relationship before it gets out of hand.

Simply put, SOME PEOPLE, SOME OTHER PLACE is a masterpiece. In all
of my readings, there is only one other book that I have given this
accolade. As an editor, I enjoyed watching Cooper smoothly
intertwine the narrator and Eula Too's journeys, the use of everyday
language to depict the often times complex and convoluted, the
development of character and plot. As a reader, I enjoyed the
journey from the heavens to earth, the emotions stirring within me
as I grew to know Eula Too, the enlightenment of the lives of
African-American families in Depression-era America. I could go on
and on about this novel and still not do it justice.

Reviewed by Deatri King-Bey
of The RAWSISTAZ Reviewers
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars This Book is well worth the Wait!, October 21, 2004
This review is from: Some People, Some Other Place (Hardcover)
You can't imagine the joy I felt, back in August when I was lucky enough to receive a bound galley of Some People, Some Other Place. I sat down and made myself comfortable. I knew I would enjoy this book I had patiently waited for the next J.California Cooper book. It had been too long since the last novel. Well this book is worth the wait. It has the good the bad and the ugly. You get so caught up in the lives of Madame, Eula Too, Jewel and the people of Place, they become people you care about. J.California Cooper never disappoints her readers. She has that down home make you glad to be here quality. The reason I love this writer is her ability as a storyteller, it's like you are sitting down in front of her and she is weaving this wonderfull tale and it is unfolding right in front of your eyes. By the time the narrator is done you are sad that your journey has come to an end. Much like my favorite J.California Cooper tome In Search of Satisfaction this book will pull you in from the beginning and hold you until the last page. You will be glad that Ms J. California Cooper took the time to introduce you to these people in this place. She is simply the BEST!!!
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8 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Simplyl Beautiful, November 7, 2004
This review is from: Some People, Some Other Place (Hardcover)
I am not done with this book, but I just had to get on here and say a few things: Please get this book. Usually books that have rape in it, for some reason, I am drawn away or read with caution, but Ms Cooper, to me is a jewel of a writer and as far as I'm concerned, you cannot help but love her books, and this one is no exception. If u really want to know, J.California Cooper is a gifted writer and I personally think she doesn't get her due. You read her stories, and you feel as though you can gain something from her books for your own life. Now with Eula Too, she loved life. She wanted the best and she didn't let life get her down. I loved Madam for what she done, but as time gets one and you notice her own feelings, you wonder about her motives. I am really enjoying this story. So beautiful and it shows that yes, you had a bad experience, but you can get over it and move on.
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Eula Too, Miss Hart, Dream Street, Henry Lee, Maureen Iris, Mary Green, Earle Mae, Elysee City, Striver River, Fula Too, Lamont Heavy, New York, Hong Kong, Ling Woo, Marion Green, Robert Green, Lona Rich, Madame Elizabeth, Monsignor Dali, Mary May, United States, Long Island, World War, Doctor Spill, Jehovah God
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