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Some Things Never Change

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After reading some of the reviews here, I was kinda bracing me when I put the cd on. I listened to it in a single run..., and again..., and again...

It is an awesome album. This must surely be one of their quality wise most consistent albums!
Indeed, this is a (re)new(ed) Supertramp... and what an improvement at that! If someone would have said this is a new group I'd have said it is a crossover between Steely Dan and Supertramp.

A recipe for high quality, terrific sounding music, if you ask me.

Some Things Never Change, how true. I bought this not knowing what to expect. I wasn't sure if Roger was in the band or not. Roger is not part of the band, the album however is fantastic! Supertramp is one of the rare groups that origianted in the 70's that refuses to rest on its laurels. This album proves that the band is just as vitale today as they were in 1974. This album is fantastic! From the opening notes of "It's A Hard World" to "Where's There's A Will" this is bound to please long-term Supertramp fans like me and win the band some new ones. Rick has re-invented the sound of the Superramp while holding onto the magic that made them great in the start! This album is fresh..exciting!

Sure, I'd love to see Roger back. He is one of my favorite singers ..period. Yet Rick is making fantastic music, worthy of critical acclaim!

Yes, we miss Roger Hodgson, BUT Rick Davies not only sang more than 'Bloody Well Right' during the original lineup (as some people here seem to forget), but Davies has put together a jazzy and sophisticated album. Perhaps it is more like Steely Dan than Supertramp's more pop oriented tunes under Hodgson, but once again, this disc offers some really classy musical workings....great stuff, and for anyone who ever saw this performed live, like I did when the album was first released, all I can say is WOW! Great concert. So, for those die-hard fans afraid of change, I say, let go of the past and listen with an open mind and ear, and it will impress the heck out of you. Enjoy!

Supertramp is a great band and I am a true fan of them. But since Roger Hodgson has left the group they could never match their past performances. "Some Things Never Change" was a surprise to a lot of fans that did not reckon with a new album in the late 90's. Unfortunately, this album - as well as all other Supertramp albums ever since Roger left to start a solo career - cannot recall the old Supertramp. The best song on "STNC" is definitely "You Win, I Lose", which is the most reminiscent of classic Supertramp. "Listen To Me Please" and "C'est What?" are nice pop songs. However, the other tracks on the album are simply disappointing efforts. They cannot captivate the listener and lack an underlying spirit.

I think highly of Rick Davies, but Supertramp is just not Supertramp as it used to be anymore. Ironically, the album is called Some Things Never Change as an allusion to the Supertramp of the 70's and the Supertramp now. But after having listened to this CD, I have to object.

If you're looking for less known songs that are reminiscent of classic Supertramp check Roger Hodgson's "In The Eye Of The Storm" or "Hai Hai". There are some great Supertramp-like songs to be found on those albums. I'm looking forward to Roger's new album that he announced to be done in 2000.

Ironically, the mass-market popularity of Supertramp rests on a the hummable hooks of its middle-period albums. Thus, I can only guess that the many criticisms of this particular album come from fans to whom "Logical Song" seems the pinnacle of musical achievement. Too bad for them... they're missing out on some of the best work of this band's career. This is most certainly a Supertramp album to rival (and in some ways, exceed) the best output of their halcyon days.

Yes, gone are the trite little singles of Breakfast in America. Instead, the band expands its reach, weaving a lavish musical tapestry of many scintillating instrumental threads. There's an echo here of the beautiful studio jamming of Supertramp's vastly under-rated first album. Some reviewers (All-Music Guide, shame on you) have taken this as a sign that Supertramp 'can no longer create catchy little songs.' Hey, maybe they've simply evolved beyond that sort of silliness. The tracks on Some Things Never Change sound at once familiar, yet fresh and new. But where earlier works tended to stop short, these go on, achieving their jazzy, mesmerizing potential in a full five, six, or nine minutes.

Bands move on; if you trust their vision, then you have no choice but to follow where they lead. The reward is discovering unexpected gems like this one.

Unlike many people have suggested, alot has changed with Supertramp.
"It's A Hard World" opens the album, and it is anything but your typical Supertramp fare. The dark, smokey jazz track is something like Steely Dan on a cloudy day with more soul. Clocking at nearly ten minutes, the tune showcases chilled-out electric piano, atmospheric effects and plenty of little guitar and horn interjections. A much hipper, darker sound is displayed in this song that Supertramp has never touched upon before.
The next track, the light-heard "You Win, I Lose" is cute, but it wears off pretty fast, with its jumpy little guitar rolls and cheery electric piano. This track appears to be an attempt at reproducing the classic sound, but it doesn't work too well. The chorus is pretty decent, but overall, this song, instead of resurrecting the positive sound of "classic" Tramp, it only proves to be a bit embarrasing.
"Get You Act Together" has sort of a bluesy feel, but is far too clean to reallby be classified as that. The chorus, though, is pure Supertramp, which effortlessly shows us the feel that the previous track failed at. This song might be considered "easy-listening" by some people for its easy-going groove, but Davies' soulful voice knocks down all such accusations.
"Live to Love You," however, is easy-listening to the fullest, but who could help but indulge in the tuneful pleasures of Rick Davies' sincere voice? Not very good, but tolerable for a ballad.
The title track is a punchy jazz-rock number that features a mind-blowing, groove-a-licious chorus with a hip, jazz-funk feel that is one of the best things the band has ever done. Some cool but not-too-original guitar soloing is thrown in for good measure, but the real attraction is Rick's electric piano solo. The jamming is confident, sophisticated, and infectious, and the glassy timbre of the electric piano makes this nothing short of aural bliss, and the subsequent trippy sax/trumpet jamming is perhaps the Tramps spaciest moment in their history.
"Listen to Me Please" features some entertaining vocal interaction between Davies and Mark Hart, and while the vocals are a tad trite, the song has an icy, jazz-ish vibe to it that makes a real pleasure to listen to.
"Sooner of Later" has this bassline that is one of those riffs that _should_ have gone into the pantheon of greatest basslines ever, but hey, you can't win 'em all. Hart's breezy vocals carry this funky jazz groove for the first couple minutes, and then it reaches new hieghts of grooviness when the horn section embarks on a first-rate journey through jazz improvisation, not to mention the funky organ jamming, which is also quite delicious.
"Help Me Down that Road" is in the same vein as "Get Your Act Together," but scores significantly higher on the soul factor, due to its more sincere feel and spicy groove. Quite different from anything we've heard from this group before.
"And the Light" is a soft-sounding ballad, of a type which a generally shun, and yet I find myself enjoying this tune at last. I guess I am just a sucker for Davies' voice, since the composition and the lyrics are rather unoriginal and corny.
The next track is a secret track of sorts. If its on your CD, than lucky you. But otherwise, the next track should be "C'est What?" which is another jazz-rock tour-de-force, which gets quite ferociously groovy from time to time, in between mellower sections. This song is all about dynamics. Quiet, loud, quiet, loud, etc. Definetly the most rocking song on here, which borrows from jazz, rock as well as soul and classic R'n'B.
"Where There's A Will" starts of sounding lame enough, and the intentionally clicheic lyrics, but once it gets picked up, it actually has a pretty cool soulful sound, and you can tell that Davies is really playing and singing his heart on this one, despite the dumb lyrics. But dig the almost Gospel-ish sound on this track. It's pretty unlike anything that the band has ever done, like most stuff on this album.
After a close examination of this album, it appears that more has changed than the title suggests. In fact, this album is a prime example of the drastic evolution a band can undergo in a lengthy 30 year career. Sure, the style has changed quite a bit, but the unique spirit of Supertramp remains intact. It's just a matter of finding it in this interesting and unusual album.

Led by Rick Davies, Supertramp recorded two albums without there *other* famous leader, Roger Hodgson, 1985's dark-but-still-excellent "Brother Where You Bound," and 1987's lighter, poppier "Free As A Bird" (currently out of print). Both are great albums, but there was still a sense that Roger Hodgson's shadow was still looming over the group. Then, without making any official announcements at all, the band simply stopped. A whole decade passed, but then, at last, Supertramp got back into business. Boy, did they! After a 10-year absence, 1997's "Some Things Never Change" is the album that *finally* allowed Supertramp to emerge from Roger's shadow. Although it certainly would've been great to have Hodgson back in the band for this album---and he WAS asked---he declined to return, and so, singer/songwriter/keyboardist Rick Davies remains firmly at the helm once more. And what an album he & the band have delivered after so long---"Some Things" is simply spectacular! Song for song it is stunning. I was blown away right from the first listen, and I knew right then and there that even without Hodgson, Supertramp had returned in a big, BIG way. Five years later, "Some Things Never Change" is still my personal favorite album by the band. Like the album title suggests, the classic Supertramp hybrid of jazz, funk, pop, & rock remains firmly intact even after such a long break, with veteran members John Anthony Helliwell (saxophone) & Bob Sibenberg (drums) still onboard along with Davies to contribute to the hallmark Supertramp sound. The musicianship, songwriting, and overall *feel* of "Some Things" is truly something special. Although Supertramp have never recorded what one would call a "concept album" (though the epic title track to "Brother Where You Bound" seems to be conceptual---there was even a movie-featurette video produced for it), there really does seem to be a theme of sorts running through "Some Things Never Change," which is this: in the face of hard times, keep your chin up, because you WILL get through it. The lyrics are some of the most heartfelt that Rick Davies has ever written, real uplifting words of wisdom to hear & read (especially now in these harsh times we're currently living in), in such songs as the brilliant, atmospheric opener, "It's A Hard World," the cheerful "Get Your Act Together," the inspiring "Listen To Me Please," the blues/gospel of "Help Me Down That Road," and the album's ray-of-hope finale, "Where There's A Will." Davies' commanding singing voice and unique fingerwork on the keys remains strong after all this time, and Hodgson's replacement, Mark Hart, sounds close enough to his predecessor, and he delivers some fine vocals himself, especially on the funky "Sooner Or Later." With all due respect to the great Roger Hodgson & his marvelous contributions to the band's recorded work of the past, "Some Things Never Change" is such a good Supertramp album, that you really don't miss him. In my opinion, Rick Davies & company are carrying on without Hodgson just fine, as this album proves beyond the shadow of a doubt. "Some Things Never Change" is a joyous, uplifting album that always makes me smile, a phenomenal comeback for one of the world's greatest bands. :-)

I do not know what some of those other people are talking about...this is as good as they EVER were! some of the best effects in pop are on this album! Flawlessly recorded! Beautiful Stuff...GET IT! They really must have been practicing all those years.

As a fan of Supertramp since I was 14, I waited nearly ten years for this new album. After Free As A Bird and the awful Live 88 I didn't expect anything. But after the opening bass solo I was blown away by that new, groovy style. It seems that they practiced a bit during those years. The new bass player, Cliff Hugo and Lee Thornburg, former Tower Of Power-Trumpet player are fitting perfectly in this new style. It is no more Supertramp as in the 70's and 80's but a great beginning for the next part of Supertramp's history in the 90's.

Now a permanent fixture in my car's CD changer, "Some Things Never Change" is Supertramp for the '90s: more mature, more jazzy, more at ease with itself, but still multi-layered, still catchy, still some of the best music and lyrics you'll hear out there. I have long been a fan of Rick Davies and company and with this disc they expand the realm of Supertramp, successfully bringing the musical journey they started on "Brother Where You Bound" and "Free as a Bird" closer to home and infusing their new sound with that of Supertramp's roots. This is simply a great experience.