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107 of 110 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
What a machine!, March 22, 2003
This review is from: Sony DSCF717 5MP Digital Still Camera w/ 5x Optical Zoom (Electronics)
My wife finally let me upgrade from my 707, so now we have one 717 and one 707 and go out shooting at least once a week. I love this camera, it is almost everything I hoped for as an upgrade from the 707. It is much faster than the 707, though still weak with action shots. You can nail predictable events like a bird in flight, but when wild dolphins come up to your sailboat, expect to miss two out of three shots. If you do need to shoot action, hit menu and one of the record modes is "burst 3" three rapid shots one after another, you might get lucky that way. The "A" and "S" and settings to enhance depth of field and shutter speed do not seem to give good results. Likewise, The new scene selections (twilight, landscape and portrait) seem limited, though I have had some fun with portrait when I am dealing with a messy background. However, for best results, I just leave it on the green camera icon, that seems to perform the best. One BIG problem though, the camera is only two months old and all the markings have worn off the mode dial making it hard to set up in a hurry, shame on Sony for that! The 717 shoots well in intense light situations, the beach at 1 PM is no problem, except that the light is harsh, if you are going to shoot in snow or at the beach, think about getting the lens hood and ND filter accessories. We dropped $500.00 or so on the Sony wide angle lens, that was a mistake, it weighs so much it appears to hurt the camera and like all wide angles, eats light. On the bright side, there is less distortion than I have ever seen in a WA. The 717 doesn't handle subtle transparent sky light, a muted sunset, or rainbow can be lost. I still haven't scored a double rainbow with a digital, I can see both, the cameras can only see one of them. They have moved some of the control buttons from the 707 positions; moving zoom was a mistake, it really is better to have the zoom control as the farthest out control on the lens so you can find it without taking your eyes off your subject. On the plus side the focus switch is in a deeper indent, this keeps you from switching into manual mode accidentally. The auto popup flash is really noisy and vigorous and it has caused me to miss a few shots as it slams into place. Red eye reduction as usual doesn't work so well, but that is why God invented photoshop. Moving to some of the really positive features: The macro mode for closeups is a marvel. I need to do some tripod scientific tests, but it seems like the 707 out performs the 717 in macro. But we are still nailing great closeups of dew on flowers and the like and the 717's speed lets you freeze a bee on a flower or a hummingbird. The way it handles light on water is just spectacular. It can also handle shooting the sky through trees and similar shots that confound simple cameras. Like the 707, the combination of movable lens and ability to work with finder or lcd screen really gives you flexability when shooting things taller than you are. I got a "Senators Only" parking sign on Parliament Hill Ottawa that was about 8' up by holding the camera above my head and aiming through the lcd. I was trying to get a shot of a wierd bug face to face the other day so I laid the lens on the floor, and turned the finder screen to face me. Love it! The range of the zoom is all you can ask of a single lens, yes you do lose a bit of resolution at full digital zoom, but it can still nail a seaplane landing in Vancouver harbor and has enough pixels left to print a nice 8.5 x 11. It interfaces with both my Mac 10.2 and Windows XP Pro with no problem in either case. The XP software is actually a bit more efficient than iPhoto. I will close with some final tips: My wife got me this little nylon Ex Officio bag to tie to the strap. That is a much more efficient in an active shoot than the memory stick wallet. If the subject moves, as soon as you start framing, teach yourself to push the shutter button half way down, that cuts a lot of the delay out of a shot. Don't buy a memory stick less than 128M, I think my wife's 707 came with a 16M, now *that* is funny. If you have never tried one of these web based photo storage and printers like Amazon.com's photo services or Image station, they are great for situations like shooting a family reunion. Just send the URL to everyone and they can order all the prints they want. Remember the days of looking for the negative with picture 5 on roll 9? I love my 717 and I am never going back to film.
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65 of 65 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A camera worth writing about., April 29, 2003
This review is from: Sony DSCF717 5MP Digital Still Camera w/ 5x Optical Zoom (Electronics)
I have now used the camera for a whole of 3 months and have shot close to 1000 pictures and have bought 3 books on photography and digital photography. I had previously bought a DSC-F707 and lost it. I did not have any hesitation in picking up the successor to the DSC-F707 again! Not having been an interested photographer in the past, I think that the above fact speaks volumes for how good the camera is and how cost effective it is over film (this is true for most digital cameras) and how interested it can get you to start photographing. I can vouch for this fact because, a friend who picked up another one of these beauties is doing pretty much the same. This camera has an effective 5 Meg pixels and knows how to use them. The pictures are absolutely razor sharp. This does not mean that you cannot take soft portrait. With a lot of manual settings at your disposal you can get the picture just the way you want it. Now, the lens. Oh! What a lens. This is a lens which if various reviews and friends whose hobby is photography are to be believed would cost atleast 2 to 3 grand to get film SLR equivalents. Think about it! You get an aperture of 2.0 at a 5x zoom at full wide angle. That is a really fast lens. To go with it does extremely well in low light conditions as well! The auto focus is not the fastest but for most shots you do not even notice it. Now the controls, full aperture control (from f/2 to f/8) and full shutter control from 1/1000 (1/2000 in programmed AE mode)sec to 30 secs gives you enough freedom to capture the most unusual shots! White balance options are adequate, you get to choose between 5 auto, sunny, cloudy, incandescent, fluoroscent. If none of these are close enough, you have a one-touch white balance. But this requires that you have a white object exposed to the same light that the object you want to photograph is exposed to. Not always feasible for landscapes in tricky light conditions or for people and portraits outside or in mixed lighting. Even though to be fair, the auto does a pretty good job of calculating white balance. Auto Exposure Lock and a choice of 3 metering modes allow you to adjust exposure to any part of the photo and shoot images with consistent exposure plus the option to choose the focusing segment makes it very versatile. This is very important if you want to stitch landscapes together. Also, you have the option of either manually focussing if need be. Pretty good versatility. Other good stuff: Flash is really very good, night shot framing is very handy, battery performance, the histogram for live and review of shots, etc., Strengths: 1) Carl Ziess lens. 2) 5 meg pixels. 3) Low light photography. 4) Price - Performance ratio. 5) Flash 6) Battery life and info 7) Level of manual controls 8) Great tripod mount positioning 9) Histogram that shows exposure graphically while live or on review. 10) Compatibility with Memory stick pro media. (Upto 1G size). Weaknesses: 1) Price of the memory sticks in comparison to other digital media. 2) In camera battery charging 3) Bundled software
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75 of 76 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The best of all possible worlds..., June 5, 2003
This review is from: Sony DSCF717 5MP Digital Still Camera w/ 5x Optical Zoom (Electronics)
Having been an owner of the Sony F505V, the upgrade to the F717 was a natural progression. As one gets more aquainted with digital photography, one will certainly come to appreciate MORE megapixels! I've been eyeing a 14mp camera, but it's [price] ... so, the Sony is far better suited to my preferred "sensible" price:value ratio. I started life as a true-blue "film" photographer. I tried a first generation digital camera (it was much less than 1 mp), and although it was fun... it just wasn't ready for prime time. Later, I jumped for the Kodak DC 120 (1mp)... this was a far better camera, but not so good for real photography work. Then, came the Sony F505V (3.3MP)... it was true love! However, as my own appreciation for the digital medium grew, I soon found that it was not quite suitable for the photo purist that I had been. Then, came the F717!!! The F717 is the most film-like of any digital I've ever used. The features are many... but being Sony, the costs tend to be high. One can take complete control over exposure, time, or let the camera maximize things for you automatically. One fun feature is the ability to play back a slide show to a TV/VCR (with the supplied cable)...this is particularly nifty when shooting family gatherings! :-) The pivot body style makes it far more versatile than comperable competitor cameras (quite suitable for getting MORE angles on a subject). Battery life is great, picture quality is outstanding, the additional modes for night and special FX make it even better. Rumor has it that if one purchases/locates an appropriate infrared filter and uses the "night shot" during the day, that one can get a slight x-ray effect in the photos. I have yet to try this, but I'm intrigued by the possibilty. The shape itself can be a burden if one looks to store it in a traditional camera bag (might as well break down and get one of the Sony bags!) The ONLY real drawback that I've experienced with the camera is that one will want at LEAST 128mb memory sticks to use with this camera (it comes with a 32mb, which is a joke). The Lexar memory sticks tend to be more cost effective, but if you're out and about and decide to do video (yes, it does decent video too...although it is NOT a video camera)... doing video will fill up your precious memory sticks REALLY fast! Sony has since announced a 1gb memory stick, but the current price is close to the cost of the camera... Sorry, I'll just buy more 128mb Lexar's until the price comes down! :) Although I'm a big fan of Nikon, Olympus and such in the film world, Sony rules the day in the 5mp digital world. Would I buy again? In a heart beat! PS- Don't look for any real "support" from Sony. Do a Google search and find some newsgroups/user groups out there. However, the lack of support is not a Sony exclusive, and it does seem to be the nature of the marketplace (seems everyone has had to make budget cuts..."support" is just another victim).
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