Amazon is required by law to post when a game requires High speed access to play. You can contact your local attourny generals office and report them if you are unable to recieve a refund after trying to set up a steam account with the game and are unable to download the installation patch.
I'll be honest, I'd be more inclined to pick this up for the PC if it used GFWL, since there would be a chance that no Internet connection would be required, even for activation. That's how the retail version of Dark Souls works. I guess this'll be an Xbox 360 purchase for me.
That's great information, but Amazon will honor it's 30 day software refund policy on games that require online activation/account management. I have personally tested this feature and was refunded my purchase without issue.
So irregardless of whether you were informed at purchase or not, you can return the game.
To anyone who has purchased the actual boxed game (dvd) here: Does it come with much of a manual (*printed*, that is)? If so, is much info included? I miss the time when games came with manuals. I don't mind if I have to go thru the whole d/l on Steam (like Skyrim), I just want an actual printed manual to read. Thanks for the info.
I third what some of the other customers are saying. Trying to set up GFWL with Arkham Asylum was a freaking nightmare and I actually lost count of how many times it failed before I finally got it set up correctly - and this was with a gamertag I'd had and used on my 360 for years.
Steam? Outside of software/OS issues (which isn't Steam's fault), I've NEVER had an issue. Not once.
Just curious - what issues people face with GFWL? I have a few games that use GFWL and have yet to encounter an issue. I have Steam as well and prefer Steam simply because my collection over last years is there and i like to centralize it all. But GFWL never gave me trouble even once.
Besides the double DRM issues, as Paul Webb indicated, please check out the Batman: Arkham Asylum reviews for some examples of GFWL issues. I also have the same problem described by Paul Webb, but not only that, after I played the game, in order to uninstall the game, I have to go through another hassle of a registry edit (Google "cannot uninstall batman akham asylum" for more info). In addition, I also had problem with GFWL in Gears of War, where my saved games disappeared.
To be fair, I also have other GFWL games without any issues, such as Bulletstorm or Resident Evil 5 -- But when taken into consideration of all the games I have, and all the DRM schemes that I've dealt with vs. the DRM related problems that I actually experienced, then GFWL is one of the worst.
BTW, be sure to read the article that I linked to in my previous post (please let me know if you want me to post the entire article). Consider that you'd have to mess up really badly in order for an industry insider/journalist to call you out in such direct and critical manners; that is exactly what GFWL managed to do.