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Stumbling On Wins: Two Economists Expose the Pitfalls on the Road to Victory in Professional Sports [Hardcover]

David J. Berri , Martin B. Schmidt
3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (38 customer reviews)

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March 18, 2010

The next quantum leap beyond Moneyball , this book offers powerful new insights into all human decision-making, because if sports teams are getting it wrong this badly, how do you know you're not? Sometimes the decisions that teams make are simply inexplicable. Consider: sports teams have an immense amount of detailed, quantifiable information to draw upon, more than in virtually any other industry. They have powerful incentives for making good decisions. Everyone sees the results of their choices, and the consequences for failure are severe. And yet... they keep making the same mistakes over and over again... systematic mistakes you'd think they'd learn how to avoid. Now, two leading sports economists reveal those mistakes in basketball, baseball, football, and hockey, and explain why sports decision-makers never seem to learn their lessons. You'll learn which statistics are connected to wins, and which aren't, and which statistics can and can't predict the future. Along the way, David Berri and Martin Schmidt show why a quarterback's place in the draft tells you nothing about how he'll perform in the NFL... why basketball decision-makers don't focus on the factors that really correlate with NBA success... why famous coaches don't deliver better results... and much more.


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"In Stumbling on Wins, sports economists Berri (Southern Utah Univ.) and Schmidt (College of William and Mary) follow up their The Wages of Wins (with Stacey Brook, CH, Jan'07, 44-2764) with more modeling and number-crunching applications. The holy grail remains the same: understanding and improving decision making on the court, field, and ice and in the front offices of North American professional team sports. Summing Up: Recommended. Sports and sports economics collections at all levels. Reprinted with permission from CHOICE, copyright by the American Library Association.

About the Author

David J. Berri is associate professor of economics at Southern Utah University. He has written extensively on sports economics for academic journals, newspapers, and magazines, including The New York Times.

Martin B. Schmidt, professor of economics at the College of William and Mary, specializes in sports economics and macroeconomics. His writing has appeared in the field’s leading academic and general interest journals, including The New York Times.

Berri and Schmidt coauthored The Wages of Wins and maintain a popular blog, The Wages of Wins Journal, which discusses the economics of sports decision-making (dberri.wordpress.com).


Product Details

  • Hardcover: 256 pages
  • Publisher: FT Press; 1 edition (March 18, 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 013235778X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0132357784
  • Product Dimensions: 6.3 x 0.8 x 9.1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (38 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #559,829 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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22 of 25 people found the following review helpful
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This is disappointing and I don't recommend it, either for sports fans or anyone with an interest in the growing and substantial research on fallibilities in human judgment, decision making and use of information. Its basic point is one that is well established, that conventional measures of performance in professional sports are misleading predictors of future performance; examples are pitchers' ERAs and NBA points per game. It repeats the many-times made observations about how often NFL first round quarterback draft picks are bombs. That's well presented and thoroughly documented but in more detail than the use of the findings warrants. Its main point is that overreliance on the wrong data leads to bad economic decisions by managers who should know better. I don't recall any item in the analysis that has not been covered elsewhere. Examples here are: (1) Field managers and coaches in baseball, football and basketball have little impact on team performance, (2) Statistically, it makes sense to go for it on fourth down, (3) Trading up to get a high draft pick is generally a bad deal, economically and in terms of finding the best talent, (4) NBA draft position is a poor predictor of career performance, (5) The NBA "hot hands" streaks are a myth and (6) Isiah Thomas was a truly, truly lousy general manager of the Knicks. Agreed. Agreed.
The main weakness of the book seems to me that it largely relies on data about individual performance for its core evidence and though it alludes to the context of teams, it is very univariate in its analysis. The authors emphasize this but only in a single footnote. (The regression-based methodology examines only the strength of the linear relationship between two independent variables.
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3.0 out of 5 stars interesting but not enough for a book December 27, 2010
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Interesting in parts, but this is obviously a blog converted into a book, rather than content so substantive that it was suited to a book. Most of the inefficiencies discussed are relatively common knowledge by now among statistics-savvy fans, although I did think the analysis on how kickers' value comes more from their kickoffs than field goals was interesting and new.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Linke "Freakanomics" for sports fans August 19, 2010
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"Stumbling On Wins" is a very entertaining book - it essentially takes a statistical, economic approach to sports in an attempt to answer common barroom debates such as which coaches are the best and do things like streaks and hot hands really exist.

This approach to sports isn't new - baseball has been stat-crazy for years, and "Moneyball" took it to the next level by providing (sometimes surprising) statistical value to various aspects of the sport. "Stumbling On Wins" expands the formula to other sports, such as pro basketball and football to answer questions about the real value of coaches and players.

The book is filled with nuggets of interesting data that have the potential to change how you look at sports. For example, in professional football, kickers really do matter (not terribly surprising) but what is surprising is that their skill on kickoffs is actually more valuable to a team then their field goal accuracy. Sound crazy? Well, there's stats to back it up.

Other areas of interest in the book cover things like the relative value of various pro athletes (underpaid and overpaid) which are always fun to debate, and especially for basketball fans, a baseball-level-geekery of analysis which is eye-opening to say the least (hint: rebounds are more important then you think.)

I would recommend this book to anyone with an interest in pro sports, from the casual fan to the fanatic. It is an enjoyable, fairly quick read and like the best books, it challenges how you think.
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Not bad BUT... July 15, 2010
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Most of the articles in here have merit and are interesting and are better written than Berri/Schmidt's first volume.

But...

Don't take their basketball value formula too seriously. Berri overrates the fetching of the ball after missed field goal attempts... wrongly assuming the correlation of rebounds to wins is causation.

Of course, rebounding is correlated to wins! What causes rebounds? Missed field goal attempts. What causes missed field goal attempts? Great individual and great help (team) defense. Unfortunately they do not relate defense-to-wins to any appreciable degree and thus greatly overvalue the ball fetching value of the Cambys of the league.

Dennis Rodman was an amazing player early on in his career mainly for his defense... as he grabbed more rebounds he got somewhat lazier on defense (to grab more rebounds) thus diminishing, not increasing his value per possession.

Someday these authors will realize this.
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5 of 7 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Stupid Regression Tricks August 1, 2010
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A book like this can do three good things. It can be fun to read, well-written and amusing. It can show deep love and understanding of a sport, giving insights to participants and fans. Or it can illustrate quantitative reasoning, finding non-obvious conclusion from data.

Few books do all three. Moneyball has brilliant writing and baseball insight, but no clever reasoning. The Bill James Handbook 2010 teaches important things about baseball and quantitative reasoning, but is weak on literary style. Mathletics: How Gamblers, Managers, and Sports Enthusiasts Use Mathematics in Baseball, Basketball, and Football is fun to read and a great way to learn reasoning, but the author's interest stops at the box score, he never goes to the field.

This book does none of the above. The writing is wooden and often unclear. There is no interest in the games. Worst of all, the arguments are deeply flawed.

The first extended example claims to prove that shooting percentage in basketball is a better indication of player talent than points scored. This is surprising on the surface. When players do things under reasonably standard conditions, kick points after touchdowns, shoot free throws or bat in baseball, with well-defined outcomes, their average performance is usually tracked. But when players do things under widely varying conditions, especially when their team picks the attempts, we use totals instead.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
3.0 out of 5 stars Many interesting conclusions, but lack depths.
The book presents various statistical analyses that were done on the professional football, baseball and basketball. Read more
Published 5 months ago by Inon Zukerman
4.0 out of 5 stars Short but sweet take on sports statistical theory
If your not a Bill James fan or a sabrmetric type of diehard this isn't the book for you.However,if you really love to break down the stats and what they mean,or you have always... Read more
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3.0 out of 5 stars Something to think about
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Published on October 4, 2010 by John Forman
5.0 out of 5 stars An analytical sports oasis in the world with John Madden and Joe...
I live in a small town with an all-sports radio station. The lead voice and "expert" on that station is a nice enough fellow; he smiles a lot and does local charity work. Read more
Published on September 27, 2010 by Jared Castle
4.0 out of 5 stars Chiefly for Basketball Fans
Sports has always had its stats geeks, but rarely have economists examined professional athletics with their trained eyes, much less did so in so readable a fashion. Read more
Published on September 24, 2010 by Jeffrey A. Veyera
5.0 out of 5 stars Freaknomics meets Moneyball
Sports economics sounds like a difficult and dry subject. It's not, at least not as this easy-to-read, absorbing book explains it. Read more
Published on August 19, 2010 by Randym
4.0 out of 5 stars What it takes to win
Just how good are athletes, coaches or teams? Do make that determination, we typically rely on statistics. Similarly, the folks who run teams often rely on stats. Read more
Published on August 1, 2010 by mrliteral
5.0 out of 5 stars Fun to read. Enjoyable and unconventional way of looking at things
First a disclaimer. I am a casual sports fan- meaning that I will watch some games on TV, but I am not a stats or ESPN junkie. Read more
Published on July 30, 2010 by Andy in Washington
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