Symphonies 4 & 7

Beethoven (Artist), Harnoncourt (Artist), Coe (Artist) | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (October 6, 1992)
• SPARS Code: DDD
• Number of Discs: 1
• Label: Elektra / Wea
• ASIN: B000000SGO
• Also Available in: MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #502,956 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Track Listings

1. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Adagio - Allegro vivace

2. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Adagio

3. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Allegro Vivace

4. Symphony No. 4 In B Flat Major, Op. 60: Allegro ma non troppo

5. Symphony No. 7 In A Major, Op. 92: Poco sostenuto - Vivace

6. Symphony No. 7 In A Major, Op. 92: Allegretto

7. Symphony No. 7 In A Major, Op. 92: Presto

8. Symphony No. 7 In A Major, Op. 92: Allegro con brio

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars Harnoncourt & Beethoven, January 30, 2011

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Erik North (San Gabriel, CA USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Symphonies 4 & 7 (Audio CD)

Of all the mainstream European conductors to have achieved world prominence in classical music during the last four decades, Nikolaus Harnoncourt may easily be one of the most controversial, primarily due to what some see as a somewhat eccentric conducting style and pacing, and the tendency, bought out by his background in the original instruments movement, to stick slavishly close to the tempos of a piece as the composer had written them. Just as many disagree with Harnoncourt's methods as those who agree with them, especially when it comes to the Viennese classical era embodied by Haydn, Mozart, Schubert, and Beethoven. A case in point is this particular recording of Beethoven's 4th and 7th symphonies from the conductor's late 80s/early 90s Beethoven cycle for Teldec with the Chamber Orchestra of Europe.

What may surprise a lot of people is that, apart from nos. 5, 6, and 9, Beethoven's symphonies were not composed for exceptionally large orchestras--save for an added French horn in the "Eroica", the size of the orchestra is no larger than it ever was for Mozart or Haydn. It was the limits that Beethoven's music pushed the players to that makes them so formidable even today. This is true even in something so deceptively "retro" as the Fourth, which, like the first two symphonies, is proportionally similar to the Haydn/Mozart model. Harnoncourt recognizes this in the main, though there are two sections of his interpretation of this symphony that threw me sideways: the missing of one chord at the coda of the first movement, and the lack of a second horn at the coda of the Adagio. But at least his pacing of the work is what we're accustomed to, and not like he or the C.O.E. are rushing off to a fire sale, as I felt was the case with parts of Harnoncourt's Concertgebouw recordings of Mozart's 30th and Schubert's 2nd.

The Seventh, which Wagner rather accurately called the "apotheosis of the dance", is a work driven by motoric rhythms throughout all four movements, and both Harnoncourt and the C.O.E. handle this well, especially in the all-important Scherzo, although I do have to agree with another reviewer that the portentous Allegretto (which made a cinematic appearance in the 2009 doomsday film KNOWING) is handled a bit too quietly. Again, however, in terms of pacing, Harnoncourt has things well in hand, with the reduced forces of the C.O.E. able to handle the imposing demands of a work driven like few others of the Classical period.

The performances themselves, which were done a little over twenty years ago (!), were recorded live in Graz, Austria, and have a lot of the intensity of a live performance, sans audience. And although these are not necessarily the kinds of interpretations that everyone will feel are suitable for these symphonies, they are at least close to what Beethoven may have had in mind without the excess fussiness that has been known to mar overt period-instrument performances. Even if Harnoncourt's conducting style is a bit on the bizarre side on occasion, the genius of Beethoven still shines through on this recording.

3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars An honest and revelatory account, but some flaws, November 14, 2002

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sphaerenklang "stringph - at - gmail" (UK) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Symphonies 4 & 7 (Audio CD)

Harnoncourt has a reputation for some strangely unorthodox interpretations of the classics, but this isn't one of those recordings that leaves you thinking "why did he do that?". The main difference from the days of Karajan and Klemperer is the clarity of texture: the strings, while audible, do not thickly dominate, and such things as the offbeat woodwind chords in the last movement of the 7th come through easily. The tempos are on the fast side, but not excessively so - suggesting athleticism rather than caffeine- or dogma-fuelled mania. Thankfully, swifter tempos and lighter timbres do not go hand in hand with undernourished tone or short-winded phrasing - Harnoncourt is not throwing the baby of melody out with the bathwater of portentousness. For example, in the slow movement of the 4th the dotted rhythms are lively almost to the point of perkiness, but the melody is a long-phrased legato cantabile. There is also force and power from the brass and timpani where it is needed, showing that Beethoven's climaxes don't need to be underpowered with a small orchestra.

The reservations I have are on the first and second movements of the 7th: as with 95% of conductors, Harnoncourt can't get the strings to keep the triple dotted rhythm "up" during the Vivace development section, and it ends up limping rather than bounding - the "little" notes should have been lighter. But I haven't heard a performance where this is done right - perhaps Toscanini? The theme of the famous A minor "slow" movement (actually Allegretto) is extremely quiet, virtually inaudible without adjusting the volume control - ppp rather than the p that Beethoven marked. This is the only disturbing idiosyncracy in a bracing and rewarding disc.

3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Favorite, July 1, 2002

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Randy Given (Manchester, CT USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Symphonies 4 & 7 (Audio CD)

This is my favorite Beethoven Symphony series. Over the decades, I have listened to dozens of the series. I have purchased a handful of them. This is the set I keep coming back to. The interpretation is great. The precision is there. The recording is superb. Even the price is right. Not much more that I could ask for!