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Symphony 3 / Symphony 5

Brahms , Schubert , Reiner , Cso Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (January 10, 1995)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: RCA
  • ASIN: B000003FJR
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #289,656 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Sym No.3, Op.90 in F: Allegro Con Brio
2. Sym No.3, Op.90 in F: Andante
3. Sym No.3, Op.90 in F: Poco Allegretto
4. Sym No.3, Op.90 in F: Allegro
5. Sym No.5, D.485 in B flat: Allegro
6. Sym No.5, D.485 in B flat: Andante Con Moto
7. Sym No.5, D.485 in B flat: Menuetto: Allegro Molto
8. Sym No.5, D.485 in B flat:Allegro Vivace
9. The Hebrides (Fingal's Cave), Op.26/Die Hebriden (Fingals-Hohle)/Les Hebrides (La Grotte de Fingal)

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4.0 out of 5 stars great Brahms, partially rushed Schubert August 10, 2012
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On the evidence of the Reiner Brahms that I have heard, especially the symphonies #3 and 4 and piano concerti
#1 (with Rubinstein) and 2 (with Gilels-I have not heard the violin concerto with Heifetz or the second piano concerto with Cliburn), Reiner was a great Brahms conductor. This #3 contains tough, tight, and propulsive outer movements, especially the fourth movement which sounds akin to the whirlwind finale of its earlier neighbor, the symphony #2. The second movement is tender, graceful, and unrushed, and the third movement
is intense and quite romantic-filled, I think with weariness, sadness and anger. It is a dramatic performance. I do miss some of the monumentality of Eugen Jochum's BPO first movement, but this Reiner #3 is also superb.

Unlike his terrific Unfinished (see my review), I am less thrilled by Reiner's #5. The middle movements are more relaxed-quite fine, but I find the outer movements too quick. However, I find this true of other versions, including those by conductors whose other Schubert I enjoy , such as Sawallisch and Haitink (see my reviews), Abbado and Marriner. So it may be more my problem than theirs.

Peers: Brahms 3- Jochum/BPO, Szell/Cleveland and RCOA, Klemperer/EMI, Bohm/VPO (1953)
Schubert 5: Bohm/BPO and VPO; Klemperer/EMI; Jochum/BRSO (DG)
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I don't know how this superb CD missed out being featured in various reissues of Reiner's catalog, almost the whole of which now appears in RCA's Living Stereo series. The simple division between the Toscanini and Furtwangler style of conducting doesn't apply to Reine. when the lead reviewer says that this Brahms Third is "tough, tight, and propulsive" in the outer movements, he must be having Toscanini deja vu. In reality Reiner is rather relaxed, but that's just the beginning. He was an objective, even impersonal conductor, but one who almost never sounds efficient the way Szell often does.

Here the texture of Brahms's orchestration isn't employed for grandeur, in the style of Karajan and Rattle. Instead, there's a kind of clarity and directness that I find "American." Szell achieved the same sound, generally speaking, in his Brahms, and I had forgotten how impressively both conductors (who were Hungarian and Jewish, like Solti - what an amazing crop of great conductors one small country produced!) shaped the virtuosity of their orchestras. As an interpretation, Reiner's Brahms Third is deceptively plain, but that's also true of his great Tchaikovsky "Pathetique." He could make the most romantic score "speak" without indulging in off-the-shelf Romantic gestures.

In most Brahms Thirds, the outer movements are the main attraction, thanks to the gentle sameness of the two inner movements and their bittersweet mood. Here they are the highlight of the performance, moving forward at a natural pace and yet feeling so poignant without underlining the mood. Reiner understates the outer movements, which move quickly and deftly.
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