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That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)

Emilio Estevez , Craig Sheffer , Christopher Cain  |  R |  DVD
3.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (42 customer reviews)

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  • Actors: Emilio Estevez, Craig Sheffer, Larry B. Scott, Matthew Dudley, Jill Schoelen
  • Directors: Christopher Cain
  • Writers: Emilio Estevez, S.E. Hinton
  • Producers: Alan Belkin, Brandon K. Phillips, Gary R. Lindberg, Jim Geib, John M. Ondov
  • Format: Multiple Formats, Closed-captioned, Color, Dolby, Subtitled, Widescreen, NTSC
  • Language: English
  • Subtitles: English
  • Region: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only. Read more about DVD formats.)
  • Number of discs: 1
  • Rated: R (Restricted)
  • Studio: Paramount
  • DVD Release Date: October 14, 2003
  • Run Time: 102 minutes
  • Average Customer Review: 3.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (42 customer reviews)
  • ASIN: B0000AUHOF
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #143,429 in Movies & TV (See Top 100 in Movies & TV)
  • Learn more about "That Was Then... This Is Now" on IMDb

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In THAT WAS THEN…THIS IS NOW, Emilio Estevez stars as Mark Jennings, a delinquent teenager who becomes overly jealous when his brother-like figure and best friend, Byron (Sheffer), gets a girlfriend (Delaney) and tries to abandon his old, bad boy ways. Already feeling alienated after being orphaned when his father killed his mother during a violently heated argument, Mark becomes jealous of Brian’s new relationship and gets himself involved with drugs as a result. When Mark and Brian’s mentor, Charlie Woods (Freeman), is killed, and when Byron’s girlfriend’s little brother is reported missing with Mark seeming to have more clues to his whereabouts than anyone else, their world changes even more as the boys’ friendship is put to the ultimate test.

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Emilio Estevez and Craig Sheffer light up the screen in this exciting drama about the delicate balance of teenage friendship.

"That Was Then...This Is Now" tells the story of two boys raised as brothers who take on the challenges of the street with equal determination. They're an inseparable, unstoppable team about that's about to face the first barrier they can't knock down...the pressure of manhood.

"That Was Then...This Is Now" is based on the best-selling novel by S.E. Hinton, author of "Tex" and "The Outsiders," and "Rumble Fish."

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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Don't expect the book. A decent coming-of-age film. August 27, 2009
This film was inspired and is partly based on the S.E. Hinton novel of the same title. However, a modicum of research will tell you that Emilio Estevez wrote the screenplay, not Hinton. Ergo, do NOT expect it to be exactly like the book. Film is one medium, literature is another. To compare them is odious and unfair to both.
Estevez and Sheffer both do a decent job in this emotional story of two young men who go from inseparable to at odds with one another as they begin to drift apart. Estevez wants everything to stay the same: hanging out, slacking off and committing petty crime. The bad boy image and ways will take them nowhere good, and the film's tension comes from Brian (Sheffer)learning this with help from his new girlfriend (Kim Delaney) and trying to leave it behind while Mark fights the idea only to end up a drug-damaged reprobate with a dismal future.
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8 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars This movie is great! May 30, 1999
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I rented this movie out of curiousity one day and thought it was great. It deals with many issues that face teens and the ending will leave you thinking.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Great Film! February 15, 2014
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This is a great film. It follows the novel in a sense. The choice in actors was a perfect one.
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7 of 10 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Gritty coming-of-age drama... August 2, 2000
Format:VHS Tape
If you are familiar with poverty, isolation and loneliness you'll relate to this film, which deals with such issues as dealing with family, peer pressure and growing past one's friends and surroundings. Watch for Morgan Freeman in a few scenes, his role as bar owner Charlie Woods revealing a certain depth and intensity.
Unfortunately Emilio Estevez's irritating presence makes every scene he is in well nigh unwatchable. And the script seems uneven, stalling every time he and his co-star had time alone on the screen. I grew tired of watching these two hang out, waiting for something to happen. Frankly the book was better...
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25 of 37 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars TALK ABOUT NOT FOLLOWING THE NOVEL......GEEZ! May 19, 2002
Format:VHS Tape
Well,I was disappointed to say the least. I bought this movie because I had read the book with my 7th grade reading class. There was NO WAY I could show this movie to them. I knew it had a R rating but figured I would take the chance. Besides all the profanity, the movie DID NOT follow S.E. Hinton's story line. Emilio Estevez (he wrote the screen play ) defiated from it in so many ways. There are too many to list now. Even the ending was totally NOT the book. The character of Mark was played by Emilio and he "over acted" big time. I was not impressed by him. Kim Delaney is a great actress but the character of "Cathy" was NOT as protrayed in the book. The character of Bryon was by far the closest of all of the characters. Oh, and the character of was played by Morgan Freeman. Need I say more? This is definitely the movie that upholds the cliche'....THE BOOK IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE MOVIE!!!!!!!! I say...don't waste the [money], like I did!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Hard to Find Film September 14, 2009
I bought this DVD a few weeks back for an inflated price so I could see and own one of my favorite movies from when I was growing up. The movie is excellent and I had not seen it in 15+ yrs so i could not remember much about it when I seen it. I did realize a couple of things about the film vs book when I watched it though. WARNING Potential Spoilers

The ending had an exceptionally strong "War on Drugs in the 80's" ending, as Bryon exiled his lifelong friend over one incident with drugs. Rather than trying to reach out to him, he wrote him off like he never existed and had his butt thrown in jail. WTF? Like anyone would do that to someone they cared so much about. Also, finally, for the people who complained that Ponyboy Curtis did not make an appearance in the That Was Then, This Is Now movie like he did with the book need to open thier eyes. He is the blond haired kid at the dance hanging out with Mark. Although he has no lines, he is plain as day in the scene at the dance inside the school and out in the parking lot before, during, and after the fight Angela Shepards friend. He is wearing the bright yellow cannot miss him.

Anyhow, this is an excellent film and any fan of SE Hinton, the Outsiders, or 1980's movies should appeciate it, if you can find a copy you are willing to pay the price for.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Glad it was made into a movie November 30, 2001
Format:VHS Tape
This was the last S.E. Hinton book to be made into a movie. Of course the book was better, but that goes without saying (for most films). Two very close teens, Mark, and Bryon live together with Bryon's mom. Mark's parents killed each other in a fight when Mark was a child. Bryon grows to maturity, and Mark wants to hold on to the good ol' days. Bryon gets a girlfriend and things look serious. Mark get's jealous and resentful. Mark turns to drug dealing, and deals some drugs to Bryon's girlfriend's brother, M&M. M&M loses his mind and is drugged out in a hippie type drug house. Things get heated between these two brothers, and Bryon is faced with a life changing decision. Good coming of age drama. Emilio Estevez wrote the screenplay to the Hinton book, but,unlike the other projects, she had nothing to do with the making of this movie. Morgan Freeman plays a very "cool" bartender in this movie.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Neat June 8, 2014
Format:DVD|Verified Purchase
I remember this from long ago and wanted to see it again. Great seeing these actors when they were really young. Good movie at good Amazon price.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars
great product
Published 5 days ago by Diane
4.0 out of 5 stars a great story of friendship
a great story of friendship, lost relationships, and poor choices gone wrong.
Published 1 month ago by robert hendrix jr
1.0 out of 5 stars Description not accurate
I'm a teacher, and I bought this movie because we just finished reading the book in class. To say I'm disappointed is an understatement. Read more
Published 5 months ago by M. Brown
5.0 out of 5 stars A classic every teenager should should enjoy
This story is written surprisingly well written by a teenager for teenagers. She speaks their language, a language that is understood by every generation. Read more
Published 5 months ago by Lillian Castaneda
2.0 out of 5 stars Watch out
If you're using this for school to supplement the book, beware. There is a lot of cursing in this movie. Emilio Estevez drops the F-bomb a lot. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Janet Fanguy
5.0 out of 5 stars Another great 80's Bad Boy movie
Emilio Esteves, besides Matt Dillon, is my favorite 80's bad boy. A basic high school movie about two teen friends. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Ryan Dimperio
5.0 out of 5 stars S.E. Hinton's novels come to life!
I love this because it is a part of the S.E. Hinton novel series. I like her entire collection of books.
Published 10 months ago by Angela M. Mathes
5.0 out of 5 stars Bast from the past...
Excellent movie,I saw this when it came out way back in the day. It's got it's cheesy moments,but it's still a cool movie. Emilio plays the part well.
Published 11 months ago by A. Salisbury
4.0 out of 5 stars movie review for That was then this is now.
This movie was ok. It was definitely not as good as the book. The only reason why the movie carries like it does is because of the acting. Read more
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