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The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier [Hardcover]

Tony Jones
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March 3, 2008 0787994715 978-0787994716
What the "Emergent Church Movement" is all about-and why it matters to the future of Christianity

Following on the questions raised by Brian McLaren in A New Kind of Christian, Tony Jones has written an engaging exploration of what this new kind of Christianity looks like. Writing "dispatches" about the thinking and practices of adventurous Emergent Christians across the country, he offers an in-depth view of this new "third way" of faith-its origins, its theology, and its views of truth, scripture and interpretation, and the Emergent movement's hopeful and life-giving sense of community. With the depth of theological expertise and broad perspective he has gained as a pastor, writer, and leader of the movement, Jones initiates readers into the Emergent conversation and offers a new way forward for Christians in a post-Christian world. With journalistic narrative as well as authoritative reflection, he draws upon on-site research to provide fascinating examples and firsthand stories of who is doing what, where, and why it matters.



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From Publishers Weekly

Jones (The Sacred Way) provides the single best introduction to the Emergent Church movement, of which he is a prominent leader. The mainline denominations are dying, and the hyperindividualism of evangelicalism is unsatisfying, so many young evangelicals, Jones explains, have decided to recreate church for postmodern times. Jones credits Brian McLaren's A New Kind of Christian with raising important questions about sounding the Gospel in an era beset by questions about foundationalism, epistemology and how to read Scripture. He passionately defends the emergent movement from criticism. In particular, critics are wrong to claim that emergents don't really believe in the Bible; emergents passionately love the Bible, says Jones, but also know that finite human beings cannot definitively articulate truth. The strongest sections put flesh on these theoretical bones by taking readers into actual emergent churches, like Jacob's Well in Kansas City, Mo., where the pastor draws on Catholic practice, engages the visual arts and sees the church's job as assisting people on their pilgrimage of faith. Jones's writing is brisk and conversational, but the book gets poor marks for design. Call-out boxes, pull quotes and frequent font changes, which might be thought to appeal to a younger audience, in fact make for distracting and disjointed reading. (Mar.)
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"This is an insider's journal of the journey called emergent Christianity, and it is the book I have been looking for. If you want to know what emergent Christianity is, buy this book, read it, talk about it and then give it to someone else." -Scot McKnight is the Karl A. Olsson Professor in Religious Studies North Park University

"The New Christians is instructive, inspiring, enjoyable, and a milestone in the development of this important young phenomenon." -Brian McLaren, author and speaker 

"There is indeed new life arising from the compost of Christendom. The challenge with a book like this is neither to be overcome by the smell of the poop, nor stupified by the beauty of a flower--more than anything we must see this book as an invitation to get our hands dirty, break a sweat, get messy." -Shane Claiborne, author, activist

"Lots of people have questions about just what this Emergent Church thing is all about. Tony Jones has the answer for them here. A great starting point for understanding a significant movement." -Christian Smith, author of Soul Searching: The Religious and Spiritual Lives of American Teenagers

"This is the book to read to get the actual insiders' view of all things emergent." -Dan Kimball, author They Like Jesus but not the Church

"This intelligent and informative book is the only insider story from one of the leading lights of the more progressive wing of the emerging movement, the former national coordinator of Emergent Village." -Christianity Today (October 2009) --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

Product Details

  • Hardcover: 288 pages
  • Publisher: Jossey-Bass (March 3, 2008)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0787994715
  • ISBN-13: 978-0787994716
  • Product Dimensions: 1.2 x 5.9 x 9.1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.1 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (36 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,141,457 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

More About the Author

Tony Jones (M.Div., Ph.D.) is a theologian, professor, and writer. Currently, he serves as theologian-in-residence at Solomon's Porch in Minneapolis, and teaches in the doctor of ministry program at Fuller Theologial Seminary. Tony has written ten books on Christian ministry, spirituality, prayer, and new church movements. He lives in Minnesota with his wife, kids, and dogs.

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25 of 29 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A Needed Perspective February 25, 2008
Format:Hardcover
In my opinion The New Christians is a needed and welcomed contribution at this stage in the emerging church conversation. This is the book to read to understand the history of this thing called emergent and the passions of those of us drawn to it. To list a few of the reasons why -

First, to be completely narcissistic, I enjoyed reading Tony's story of his journey into Emergent because it echoed so much of my own experience. I know that he has received criticism for not being inclusive enough of various forms of emerging thought in this book, but he makes it clear in the book that he is telling the story of his own experiences, the groups he has encountered, and the friends he has made. He gives snapshots of where he has encountered the conversation and summarizes the trends he is witnessing. Some people may not see themselves reflected in this book, but for those of us who have trod similar paths as Tony, it is affirming to have part of our story told. This book represents our reality - from the questions, to the conferences, to the online emphasis, to the conversations.

I also like that Tony isn't afraid to tell the truth about the messy parts of Christianity and emergent. The messy parts exist and many in this conversation have experienced pain because of them. So I appreciate Tony's willingness to say that yes Emergent has critics, yes there have been falling outs, and yes some people have refused to play ball with us. It's reality and hiding from it won't help resolve differences. And it's high time, imho, the truth was told that its not just emergents causing the problems.

I appreciated the way Tony dealt with the issues of homosexuality and women in ministry. Instead of dealing with each as "issues," he just told the stories of real people. He was inclusive and affirming in practice while not alienating in dogma. Of course this could just mean he pisses off everyone on both sides of these issues, but I thought he was fair in how he approached such controversial topics.

I enjoyed his affirmation of how popular culture shapes our reality. There are streams in the emerging church that refuse to condescend to popular culture. One often feels like one needs to apologize for watching TV or for listening to mainstream music around other emergents. I liked how Tony used popular culture as metaphors and as keys to understand the forces shaping the conversation. I prefer this thoughtful engagement to the snobbishly turning up of the noses I often expect in emergent circles.

There were of course other stories and ideas throughout the book that I enjoyed, just as there were a few things I questioned and a couple of things that I found annoying (the layout). But this is a good book, well worth the read. If you want to know more about emergent, understand where it came from, or just hear the stories of real people who are a part of it - read this book.
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24 of 29 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars History & perspective February 21, 2008
Format:Hardcover
This has been a fun, challenging, insightful read for me. As one who's been reading and thinking and messing people up with "emergent" dialog, Tony Jones' The New Christians (copyright 2008, Jossey-Bass Publishers) gets into the nitty gritty history and thoughts behind the movement in a way that's accessible and personal.

I found "the emergent church" folks about ten years ago, reading some of their forebears and thinking new thoughts that scared me, to be frank. I attended a couple of seminars, traveled to Maryland for one of the Off The Map conferences, and read through alot of books. I put this new work right up there with the most meaningful of my library - good for anyone looking for someone "on the same page as me", and detrimental for anyone wanting to just keep the status quo religiously.

It's into this mess of paradox, oxymorons and mystery that Jones and others have sought to "work out our salvation with fear and trembling".

What I like about Jones' prose is that he doesn't water anything down. There are problems on both sides, there are misunderstandings all over, and there's a need for forgiveness and mercy and grace from each corner. He does this with the historical potions of the story, and then does much the same with the theological discussion of truth, the Bible, interpretation, missiology. There's a flow that's working for me, like a primer on what I've been reading from my own vantage point that's developed over the same passage of years.
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33 of 41 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars good book but unconvincing to me February 17, 2008
Format:Hardcover
This is a well written, and passionately written, book designed to foster excitement for the Christian movement in which the author participates. I give it three stars for this, but no more because I don't find it terribly convincing. However, if you're interested in the Emergent movement, or the current state of Christianity at all, it's worth a read, there is certainly some good information and ideas in the book.

That said, reading this I rather get the impression that Mr. Jones is somewhat out of touch with reality, and takes movement he participates in much too seriously. He constantly compares himself and his fellow Emergents to adventurous pioneers battling on the fringes of philosophy and spirituality. But if you broaden your horizons a bit I think you'll find that pioneering - in a general sense - is being carried on by a great many people of all persuations. Why are the emergents the pioneers but not the Buddhists or secularists? We're all trying to figure this out, this thing we call reality. Really, what the emergent church seems to be (if there really is such a thing, since the author never does give a working definition of it) is a bunch of disillusioned people trying to reconcile their Christian faith with human experience. As such they aren't much different than the Christians who have had seriously questioned their faith throughout history. The only difference is that now they're trying to figure out how to be one in a postmodern world. Jones was not conclusive on how this can be done or if its even possible.

In fact, and unfortunately, he was not conclusive about anything at all. He writes and writes but avoids conclusions, he makes no points, or when he does, he quickly retracts them or qualifies them to the point that they are not falsifiable. He revels in ambiguity and fluff.

An example of fluff is how he claims to find value in all the Christian traditions, and restrains from saying one is right and one is wrong, or even where they are right or wrong. But what does this actually mean? It's ok to say without going into detail (which he almost admits), but its clear that there are huge discrepancies between say, Catholicism and the Baptists. And why only the mainstay traditions? Why is not Christadelphianism considered? And if these traditions are so highly valued, why has he gone off dismissed them to start a new, postmodern tradition? Jones doesn't even try to answer this. It's ok to paint in broad strokes about what you think Christianity is until it comes time to actually explain what your basis for that picture is.

His most interesting chapter to me was 5, "After Objectivity," in which he describes the role of paradox in the Christian faith. Yet in the end I am left unconvinced that these paradoxes are true. If the trinity doesn't make sense, perhaps it really is because people conjured it up. Why look for paradoxes where other explanations suit just fine? Whenever and wherever Jones finds an obvious contradiction he assumes there's a deep hidden truth in it. But sometimes a rose is just a rose. What reason do we have to believe these paradoxes are true, that we are not just reading profundity in them? Any absurd thing can be made profound, that's both the beauty and folly of human imagination. There are certainly paradoxes in other religious and metaphysical theories, some of them may be deep, but many may just be nonsense. Jones assumes that the paradoxes he favors are the former.

Not only this, but he repeatedly contorts the bible to allow for dubious postmodern, existentialist interpretations. In my experience this is certainly impossible (and downright dishonest!) without compromising the original intent of the authors. And if one does that, then what is the point?

Jones seems to want to make the Christian faith somehow existential. For instance he says "the Christian faith is a journey -a Way- not a destination." Personally I think he may have barrowed that idea from Basho or some other poet or philosopher. You certainly don't find it in the Christian scriptures. You find that Jesus is the "Way" but the destination is always the main focus in the New Testament.

So when one does this, when one reads things into the text and pretends that one is teaching bible, or when one takes out-of-date, nonsensical dogmas and says "I believe it because it is irrational" - one is merely playing a game, with oneself and with one's peers.

In fact when one has done this one has effectively ended conversation and dialogue, what Jones espouses most in his book. When one assumes a priori that one's faith is true, then one has effectively closed off communication. On some level Jones has already done this. He's not very interested, it seems, in seriously considering that his faith is dead wrong. But if he was, would it really be possible live a life of such contradiction? After all, you cannot be totally open to discussion and revision AND assume you're beliefs are correct at the same time. It's an impossible stance, a fence-sitting act that can take place only in a static world. Therefore, there's something unreal about the way emergent Christians describe themselves.

Jones complains that critics of the Emergents fail to see the movement as a whole, or are too quick to generalize. Yet he is also reluctant to give us anything TO criticize. In some places he seems to enjoy this state of ambiguity, and even practically admits that criticizing the movement is like "nailing Jell-O to a wall" (sorry I can't remember the page reference).

In the appendices there is a response to certain criticism made by D.A. Carson in his book "Becoming Conversant with the Emerging Church." I expected a rebuttal of some sort. Now I have not read Carson's entire book, only selections of it at the store, but from what I saw he was spot-on and his arguments valid, or at least apparently valid, enough to warrant a worthy rebuttal. McLaren, Jones, et al, response addressed nothing. Jones complained they were caricatured and misrepresented (without explaining how), the response consisted of merely affirmed that they really do believe in Christianity (without explaining how), and an offer of friendship to their critics.

Perhaps the new generations of Christians, those conversing with the postmodern world, have felt the need to retreat to ambiguity and contradiction. I understand why this might provide relief - there is a feeling of freedom in that, in not being pinned down. And this attitude itself is great. But I am not convinced that it belongs logically in the Christian faith. I do not see how one can claim to be Christian and also claim to live with this attitude of openness to the possibility of being wrong. Belief in God seems an all or nothing thing. At least that's the way the bible portrays it. Somewhere in McLaren and Jones, et al, something doesn't mesh. Either they, deep down, don't truly believe in God, or they, deep down, are closed on this level to commutation. They can't be both, can't they?

Yet, even with all the problems I have with this movement, which I may or may not have articulated well, it's hard not to feel that this emergent movement, or this emergent sensibility, can only be a good thing for Christians as human beings, because it allows them to breathe rather than feel trapped by static dogma. Who knows what kind of faith will eventually emerge out the emergent church.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Please consider this.
This book clearly shows the idea and thoughts of the emergent movement and if you know the Bible you will be able to discern the era of this thinking. Read more
Published 1 month ago by Sharon m Ulstad
5.0 out of 5 stars To my mind - True Christianity
Coming from a traditional evangelical background where doubts are considered a lack of spiritual maturity or knowledge, Tony Jones has presented a picture of christian community... Read more
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4.0 out of 5 stars A Great History of the Emerging Church Movement
Tony Jones is the theologian-in-residence at Solomon's Porch in Minneapolis, MN (Doug Pagitt's church). Read more
Published on June 25, 2010 by Joshua Hopping
5.0 out of 5 stars Best info on Emergents.
If you're interested in knowing what this whole Emergent thing is about, this is the book for you. Before you say anything about emergent (Good or Bad) You should read this...
Published on January 20, 2010 by Sick Boy
4.0 out of 5 stars Right Diagnosis...Solutions Still Fuzzy
The picture that Tony Jones paints in the first half of his book of the church today is pretty solid. The church lacks unity. The church lacks theological depth. Read more
Published on July 4, 2009 by Matthew Hundley
5.0 out of 5 stars "The best primer available for the emergent movement"
If you are even interested in reading this book I guess you may be one of three people. One, you could be an "emergent" and you are just wanted to learn a little about the movement... Read more
Published on June 9, 2009 by Rawim
3.0 out of 5 stars Biased Yet Interesting
Tony Jones' book "The New Christians" is an outstanding history and overview of the Emergent Church movement. Jones is obviously a clear and compelling writer. Read more
Published on October 20, 2008 by Brian
4.0 out of 5 stars A Helpful Guide to the Emerging Church and Contemporary Christianity
Tony Jones gives a brief but well thought out account of the emergent church culture among contemporary expressions of Christianity. Read more
Published on September 11, 2008 by Daniel J. Paszak
5.0 out of 5 stars good read
This is an important read for anyone interested in the emergent conversation. The personal history of the author's journey and the concepts developed, in this journey, give this... Read more
Published on August 14, 2008 by D. Nelson
1.0 out of 5 stars Garbage!
2Tim 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves... Read more
Published on July 16, 2008 by plms
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"The truth? You can't handle the truth!" raged Jack Nicholson in the face of Tom Cruz in the movie A Few Good Men. With this book, Tony Jones will become the foremost voice for the emergent movement in the U.S. along with his friend and mentor, Brian McLaren. Frankly, I'd follow either... Read more
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