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"This new edition of the famous Bergin and Fisch translation of Vico's Scienza nuova, originally published in 1948 and reissued in a revised edition in 1968, includes a translation of a piece of Vico’s work called the Practica . . . . It is a great advantage to have [the “Practic of the New Science"] reprinted with the text of the New Science as it offers some of Vico’s views on the application of his science. . . . Cornell University Press is to be congratulated for . . . this new full edition.”―Review of Metaphysics

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  • Paperback: 445 pages
  • Publisher: Cornell University Press; 3rd edition (1984)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0801492653
  • ISBN-13: 978-0801492655
  • Product Dimensions: 6 x 1.2 x 9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.6 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
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This review is intended as a criticism, NOT of the Bergin and Fisch translation or of Vico's master work as a whole, but rather ONLY of the Penguin Edition of the New Science. It has come to my attention that my comments have been attached to BOTH the Penguin edition and the classic translation by Bergin and Fisch. This is an Amazon problem, and one that I would ask the reader to bear in mind. Thank you to commentators on this review for bringing this problem to my attention.

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Professor Donald Phillip Verene, Charles Howard Candler Professor of Metaphysics and Moral Philosophy at Emory University, and Director of the Institute for Vico Studies has written a devastating review of the Penguin translation (by David Marsh) and its introduction (by Anthony Grafton), both or which are fraught with egregious errors. These errors betray an inattention to Vico's life and writing as a whole, as well as a near-total ignorance of the field of Vico studies which has blossomed in the 20th century. Although this edition is attractive on account of its price, it was an unnecessary endeavor (Isaiah Berlin hailed the Bergin and Fisch edition as exceptional, and a role model for translation practice in general), a botched effort that is likely to do more harm to Vico's reputation in the English-speaking world than good.

For those with a serious interest in Vico, the Penguin Edition of the New Science should be absolutely avoided. Instead, purchase
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This is a very unusual book. It is an unorthodox view of history that became the source of inspiration to a diverse group of scholars such as Karl Marx, James Joyce and Marshall McLuhan. It was my reading of McLuhan that caused me to seek out Vico, and therefore, read this book.
If you have an interest in words and entomology, this is a book for you. Vico looks for the origin of civilization in the origin of words, and proposes theories that provoke thoughtful reflection. McLuhan used Vico to chart the future of civilization, as did Joyce.
It is impossible to sum-up this book in a few words, and it is difficult to explain why it is worth reading, but nonetheless, I recommend it to those of you who have stumbled upon it here. If you've gotten to this page, of the 800 million pages in cyberspace, then you are probably someone who should read Vico.
If you've never read Vico before, I highly recommend his autobiography, which contains a scholarly overview of Vico and his thought. It is a slimmer volume than this one, and could help you decide to read-on.
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Several people asked where Vico is taught / who studies Vico. The Graduate Institute at St. John's College (Great Books program) studies Vico at length in the History segment, which is really Philosophy of History. The Great Books people seem to have thought Vico was worth reading. The late philosopher Eric Voegelin wrote an essay in the compendium "Order and History" singling out Vico's work for its insights and calling for scholars to take up the "New Science." At Emory University Donald Philip Verene runs the Institute for Vico studies. There are also many collections of essays on Vico by both American and European scholars. St. John's College library in Annapolis contains a good number of them.

The structure Vico employs is unusual, don't let it throw you. It's written in numbered axioms and conclusions so he can refer to and connect ideas numerically for convenience. You see versions of Vico's ideas in movies today like I Am Legend, this book also was the basis for Joyce's Finnegan's Wake. As to how to approach the book, don't get bogged down in every detail/idea, some are just establishing facts as stepping stones so that he can prove larger things later in the big picture; the numbered ideas are not necessarily sequential but do connect together synthetically around a theme.

There is a definite ending (in the Conclusion) regarding the culmination of civilization which is what you want to get to, but without understanding how you got there it is significantly more hollow, so at least understand the trajectory of the earlier chapters first. To avoid getting bogged down or disoriented I would suggest doing the reading sequence listed on the St. John's College Grad Institute website. You can download the Graduate Reading List for History free. Remember to get to the end, otherwise you missed the big picture.
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By A Customer on April 4, 2001
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That Vico is largely unknown, even by the so-called experts teaching in our universitiues, while mediocrities and worse of the past half century are lauded and taught widely is yet another indication that our educational standards are dumbed down considerably. Vico is difficult to read, and we are increasingly an intellectually lazy people who prefer simplistic platitudes that sooth our postmodernist prejudices.
I give this Penguin edition only a 4 not because New Science is not itself a 5 or because the translation itself is weak, but because Vico requires copious notes. Most who read this work will do so on their own, and they need considerable help unless they are already as well read in the Classics and works of the Medieval and Renaissance eras as was Vico himself. Perhaps soon we will see an edition that meets that need, which also might encourage a few more to teach Vico, before we fall into the re-barbarism.
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