Is anyone out there well versed on The Stones stereo recordings versus the mono?? I'm not talking merely about the differences in the hit singles we all know of-I'm moreso interested in albums--Between The Buttons, Beggars Banquet and such. Did they do true mono and stereo mixes for all their albums like The Beatles up to a certain point ?? Someone in a recent post wrote to someone else that they need to hear Banquet in mono. Are there differences there of note such as, say, those between The White Album in stereo and mono?? I honestly never gave this any thought concerning Stones albums. Anyone??
Hey, DKPete. I cannot say anything regarding differences. I have never heard Beggars Banquet in Mono; like The White Album, I believe the mono of BB was never released in the US. I do know that Between the Buttons was in mono as my brother had a copy way back in 1967, which I heard numerous times as a youngster, but have not heard in many many years (he also had monos of Stones Now, Out of Our Heads and December's Children). Satanic Majesties I have heard is much more powerful in mono (it too I believe was released in the US in stereo only) much in the manner of Sgt. Pepper and Piper at the Gates of Dawn (I have heard similar statements about Hendrix's first three albums in mono). The one I really wish was available is Aftermath because as I believe we have discussed before, the stereo mix of that is pretty terrible. I wish I could give you firsthand knowledge on this, and I hope others can provide better insight.
Hi Dibbity...It's a shame that more of our Rock "heroes" can't have more the mind set of people like Neil Young and Pete Townshend when it comes to their historical catalogue. Thanks to the latter, I can honestly say that at least two of the very best deluxe CD re-issues out there are of Who albums-and we know the extent Neil Young is going to for the proper presentation/preservation of his material.
With the exception of the current hoopla surrounding Exile, it's way too bad that neither Mick or Keith seem to have that sort of hands-on interest in their bands' recorded history; deluxe CD mono/stereo versions of their albums would really be something worth having. I do intend on researching the monos of Buttons, Satanic and Banquet-I'm more than mildly interested in what unique mono mixes of these sound like (if, in fact, they ARE "unique" and not pre-stereo fold downs if you know what I mean).
As all three were mixed by Olympic Studios, which means Glyn Johns probably had a hand in all of them (he definitely mixed BTB), I would guess the mono mixes are genuine. In regards to Mick and Keith's lack of hands-on interest, I have a feeling that as far as the 60s recordings go, that has a lot to do with those recordings being owned by ABCKO.
Dibbity, when the SACD's came out I foolishly traded away my Singles Collection to scrape up what I could towards buying them (i.e., the individual albums...I know the Collection came out on SACD as well but I never re-bought it). Maybe my ears weren't as discerning at the time but I don't recall being "wowed" by any difference in the mix of No Expectations from the stereo version I was used to on BB. Do you have the Singles Collection?? Is there any true difference or are we talking "fold-down" (that said, the "mono" mix which appears on the single may well be an American made fold-down mono while the actual British mono BB album may still have a true mono mix...as we know this SORT of thing was not uncommon between the American and British Beatles mono/stereo mixes)??
Dibbity & DKPETE - Ihave both the sacd of BB and the singles collection and having just listened to both; there is a wide difference between the two recordings.The mono single is much tighter in focus and soundstage, and the piano and bass are much more up-front in the mix, the sacd sounds more difuse like they stretched out the soundstage; the slide and accoustic guiters were boosted drowning out the piano and bass, at least thats what these old ears hear...
I believe the 1986 Singles Collection probably had No Expectations in stereo. It was not until the 2002 release that they put only single mixes and thus put most of the 3 CDs in mono. Not to mention correcting errors on the original 1986 release such as using the No. 2 version of Time Is on My Side rather than the single/12x5 version. As for the differences between the two, I agree with Michael Cardew, so I doubt this is a fold down.
The 3 CD Singles collection from 2002 has Sympathy in stereo. In stereo on the BB album, and in stereo on the multi-disc RS Singles Box Vol. 3.
No Expectations is mono on the Singles Collection and the Singles Box, and stereo of course on the BB album. To me, the mono sounds like a fold down from the stereo.
Street Fighting Man has a unique mono mix which is on the Singles Collection and the Singles box. The stereo version on the album and on Through the Past Darkly is quite different than the mono, added instruments and a longer fade out.
I don't see any mono Sympathy available today on CD.