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The Structure of Magic II: A Book About Communication and Change [Paperback]

John Grinder , Richard Bandler
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1976 0831400498 978-0831400491 1
These seminal works in neurolinguistic programming (NLP) help therapists understand how people create inner models of the world to represent their experience and guide their behavior. Volume I describes the Meta Model, a framework for comprehending the structure of language; Volume II applies NLP theory to nonverbal communication.

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The Structure of Magic II: A Book About Communication and Change + The Structure of Magic, Vol. 1: A Book About Language and Therapy + Richard Bandler's Guide to Trance-formation: How to Harness the Power of Hypnosis to Ignite Effortless and Lasting Change
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  • Paperback: 198 pages
  • Publisher: Science and Behavior Books; 1 edition (1976)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0831400498
  • ISBN-13: 978-0831400491
  • Product Dimensions: 8.9 x 6 x 0.6 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 10.4 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (18 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #78,237 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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38 of 39 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Are you a mind reader? August 8, 2007
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If you are interested in knowing how psychiatrists effect life altering change, then this book is for you. As you may know, the authors modeled the life altering strategies of successful psychiatrists, such as Milton Erickson, Fritz Perls, and Virginia Satir. These models became the basis of what we now know as nlp.

I was rather intrigued, when reading this book to notice a strategy of Virginia Satir. In one of her dialogues with a patient, when the patient explains a perceived issue with another person, she repeatedly challenges his thinking by asking 'Are you a mind reader?'

I now ask myself the same question on a regular basis. Sometimes, I ask other people that question too. If you think about it, that is a very good perception changing question unless, of course, you are a mind reader.

Another book I recommend in this field is Mind-lines: Lines For Changing Mindsby L Michael Hall, which has an extensive list of change patterns, and My voice will go with you, which is a book of the therapeutic teaching tales of Milton Erickson. I hope you find this review helpful.
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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Truly A Classic July 14, 2007
Though not an ease read, The Structure of Magic II as well as The Sturcture of Magic I are a must read for anyone interested in the healing magic that is done by therapists. This book takes the foundation created in book I and demonstrates how it is used in therapy. Bandler and Grinder have truly studied the masters of therapy and added their own unique and brilliant skills to create a very useful guide to doing therapy.
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11 of 13 people found the following review helpful
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This series is for the serious in depth learner and student of NLP. These are not self help books for the casual reader they are the kind of book most of us read a chapter of and then have to digest, read again, as these are text books..real text books.

That said, if you want to really understand communication then you want to read them, these boys are the big guns. You want to sell more real estate, read Tony Robbins, you want to be a great therapist, start here.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
By rallan
To even hope to understand and competently apply the teachings of Volume 2,as a prerequisite the reader would need to first: 1) study Virginia Satir, Milton Erickson, Noam Chomsky, Structure of Magic Volume 1 and the authors' own two volume set on Milton Erickson 2) take a course in NLP-based psychotherapy from a good instructor.

Here Bandler and Grinder put it all together and demonstrate their model of psychotherapy. Volume 1 is about listening techniques; how to parse and analyze the client's speech to guide the therapeutic dialogue. Volume 2 builds on this in ambitious breadth, intending to formalize a method of psychotherapy that models the excellence of certain psychotherapists, and is reproducible and comprehensible. Staying with the mathematical approach first presented in Volume 1, the authors classify and group sentence fragments and words to find patterns, thus understand the client's internal psychology and then determine how to reply to the client, almost reflexively, based on these linguistic impressions.

Reading this is tough going. This could be a textbook in an advanced psychology course from an academic degree program. It is really the fourth book in a series, with the two volumes of "Patterns of Hypnotic Techniques of Milton Erickson", written the year before, being prerequisites. Many new concepts are presented in rapid sequence.

Part 1 builds further on the "Representational Systems" of Volume 1 to prepare the reader for Part 2.

Part 2 "Incongruity" and Part 3 "Fuzzy Functions" put the last pieces in place for the authors' method, and then demonstrate its application with examples. The authors have their own terminology and this makes their ideas all the more abstruse.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Difficult, insightful book September 21, 2007
By Sara Q.
I found this book even more difficult than the already challenging "Structure of Magic" but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The detail and precision that is gone into describing the unlimited power of words and communication is just what is needed in the wishy-washy world of self-help. Consider it more of a text book than a fun/easy read like Tony Robbins, and definitely start with "Structure of Magic" before going into this one.
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4.0 out of 5 stars A Truth Beyond Magic I August 19, 2013
In Magic I we learned that maps differ from the terrain they represent, and that, if we trust a map which is in error, we may, if we're in Norway, for example, find ourselves falling headfirst into the icy waters of a fjord. Or if we're simply living our everyday life and we trust our representational systems, those systems of enchantment we received from our caregivers, we find ourselves instead in hot water.

[page 3] These maps, or representational systems, necessarily differ from the territory that they model by the three universal processes of human modeling: Generalization, Deletion, and Distortion. When people come to us in therapy expressing pain and dissatisfaction, the limitations which they experience are, typically, in their representation of the world and not in the world itself.

Bandler and Grinder expanded the term representational system to include the "five recognized senses for making contact with the world" -- seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, and smelling. In addition we language words with which to describe the world which correspond to each of those five senses. We can see a pot boiling on a stove, hear the bubbling of its contents, feel the heat emitted by the fire under the pot, smell the cooking ingredients, and eventually taste the gumbo in the pot. Someone who has never cooked or ate an okra gumbo before would likely only describe what it looks like, a bunch green hexagons with seeds rolling around in the liquid. Someone who loved gumbo might talk about how good it tastes and how warm it makes one feel when it goes down. How the filé when sprinkled on top give it an aroma redolent of the bayous and swamps of his youth.
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3.0 out of 5 stars This is a REALLY Difficult Read
I tried to read this book and then later I found myself skimming through it. Neuro-Linguistic programming is really not what I thought it was. Read more
Published 1 month ago by N. Michaels
5.0 out of 5 stars Genius
I love this book, very practical and extremely useful. I think the authors really make a breakthrough in how to create change in human behavior
Published 3 months ago by jair arteaga
5.0 out of 5 stars a good clue for making chages in life
I knoow the authors but this 2 books are a great source to change your set mind one of the best tools
Published 4 months ago by nicteha marquez
5.0 out of 5 stars What did you say?
Magic happens when you actually communicate what you are attempting to communicate. Structure of Magic is a manual of communication. Only 7% of communication is words! Read more
Published 6 months ago by William E. Gleason
5.0 out of 5 stars Great value!
I finally ordered this book to add to my already growing collection on the subject of NLP and hypnosis. This book supplements the others I have that are written by this author.
Published 9 months ago by sirius1nWA
5.0 out of 5 stars Awesome book! Nice compliment to book I. Knowledge is power!
I couldn't be happier with this purchase. I bought book I and II together and I can't recommend them high enough. Read more
Published 13 months ago by Jack Acid
5.0 out of 5 stars A Keeper
Way back when I purchased this book and the second book. I read it during graduate school and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Read more
Published 16 months ago by Bea
1.0 out of 5 stars no good
boring worse than a text book even though it is a sort of text book.I felt like Chariie Browns teacher was speaking to me! wa wa wa
Published 19 months ago by cathy
5.0 out of 5 stars The structure of magic II
This book is a basic issue about NLP,every topic is specific for each subjet. Very usefull. This book is complementary for the structure of magic I
Published 22 months ago by Jacqueline Manzanero
5.0 out of 5 stars Learn NLP Linguistics
If you want to learn the linguistics of NLP, this is the book for you. Make sure you have your highlighter ready. Don't be afraid to mark the book with your notes.
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