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The Virtue of Dialogue: Conversation as a Hopeful Practice of Church Communities
 
 

The Virtue of Dialogue: Conversation as a Hopeful Practice of Church Communities [Kindle Edition]

C. Christopher Smith
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January 24, 2012
Englewood Christian Church was once a thriving mega-church, but like the neighborhood surrounding it on Indianapolis' east side, the church spiraled downward for decades in the face of widespread economic decline.

Today, Englewood--both church and community--are thriving again. Not that ECC has restored its mega-church status, but this church of 200 is having an impact that far outweighs its numbers and that upends the received wisdom about how churches work best. This story of recovery is about moving away from status symbols of success and finding a new path to strengthening and deepening community ties and creating contexts for human flourishing.

Can a modest church sustain a city? Can it foment social change simply by encouraging people to talk and listen to one another? C. Christopher Smith says that it can, and in this brief but extraordinary ebook, he shares his church's story of discovering the surprising and powerful virtue of conversation.

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Praise for C. Christopher Smith's "The Virtue of Dialogue"

"'The Virtue of Dialogue' is filled with hope and possibility, even for today's hemorrhaging and puzzled Church. Chris reminds us that in our world of culture wars and stale debates, civil dialogue is an endangered art. Here is a wonderful and simple call to real community and to honest dialogue."

Shane Claiborne, author of "Jesus for President" and "The Irresistible Revolution"

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"There is something very 1st Century about Englewood, and there's also something very postmodern -- that's because Englewood is seeking to be missional, not by theorizing about it but by actually doing it. Where they began is where we all need to begin: with conversation. We must face one another in a listening mode. Only then can our words become genuine conversation. This little book could be revolutionary for your own faith community."

Scot McKnight, author of "The King Jesus Gospel" and "Junia Is Not Alone"

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"There is no question that Americans are becoming increasingly polarized in civic discourse. In 'The Virtue of Dialogue,' Chris Smith offers an alternative way of talking to each other that opens a window of hope for a way forward and is rooted in his community’s lived experience."

Sean Gladding, author of "The Story of God, the Story of Us"

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"The story of the Englewood Christian Church is a compelling one, not because it's unusual (which it is), but because it narrates a story of church rebirth many people are experiencing under the radar of the 'success-driven' U.S. Christian establishment. Beautifully written, stunningly simple, this piece by Chris Smith gives hope for all those working in churches in the midst of long decline. To you who are looking for a way forward that is different from the latest mega church conference, I urge you to read this little book."

David Fitch, B.R. Lindner Professor of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary, author of "The End of Evangelicalism?"

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"In these brief but inspiring pages, Chris Smith offers the wider Church a vital service. By narrating for us the story of how one seemingly unremarkable congregation stumbled into the life-giving and service-spawning practice of conversation, Smith gives us hope that the Church might again become a community capable of honest, full-bodied dialogue. In so doing, he makes a powerful case for why congregational conversation should be regarded as one of the primary means the Spirit uses to help us imagine and discern together God’s will for our common life."

Philip Kenneson, Professor of Theology at Milligan College, author of "Life on the Vine"


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  • File Size: 120 KB
  • Print Length: 34 pages
  • Publisher: Patheos Press (January 24, 2012)
  • Sold by: Amazon Digital Services
  • Language: English
  • ASIN: B0071EY8KG
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Worth well more than I paid! January 31, 2012
By H. Kim
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After seeing several people whose opinions I deeply respect tweet about Chris Smith's book, I had to check it out for myself, especially as I am deeply interested in the question of how a church can change its underlying culture and systems and transform into a missional community. This is not just an academic exercise for me, but a very real and present question, as I have been wrestling with how this type of change actually works itself out in reality.

So I bought the book, intending to just skim its contents, but I was immediately drawn into the story that Chris quite effectively and efficiently presents about Englewood Christian Church. Although I initially found myself skeptical that conversations were the missing link to church-wide and ultimately community renewal; what I quickly learned and am still chewing on is the idea that before a church can truly exude a missional presence in its community, it needs to experience reconciliation within itself as a body of Christ.

I'm thankful for the book and the combination of narrative and practical ideas it presents. Highly recommend for those pondering how churches can make the transition to becoming an incarnational community.
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As a pastor of a congregation in a changing neighborhood, I would love to have a parishioner like C. Christopher Smith. In his brief new book, The Virtue of Dialogue, Smith, the editor of the Englewood Review of Books, details the transition that his church took from being an old-line megachurch on the Near Eastside of Indianapolis to being a congregation of people journeying with their transitioning community into a new form of being church. In the process, Smith reveals a level of respect and love for his sometimes difficult congregation that any church leader would envy.

As the title of the book suggests, however, this is not simply a tribute to Englewood Christian Church, it is primarily a call to conversation as a primary Christian practice and a means of reformation. As Smith narrates the process by which a flailing congregation moved to supporting businesses and housing projects in a neighborhood transformation, he gives credit to simple dialogue. "How is it that this modest church of about 200, a failed mega-church that spiraled downward with the neighborhood, has come to help orchestrate these strains of change?...the short answer is that we learned to talk to each other" (5).

Beginning in 1997 the church began a series of Sunday night conversations around issues of interest to those who came. In a circle of chairs, facilitated by a skilled and provocative lay leader, some messy, fertile interactions began to happen. "Our conversation in those earliest years was extraordinarily volatile," Smith says. "People frequently got angry and yelled at others; some would get up and walk out" (10). But enough people stayed committed to the circle that new ideas began to emerge and new actions began to grow.

Now the church is at the center of a neighborhood renaissance with an unusual collection of initiatives. A daycare and preschool, a bookkeeping business, a landscaping operation, and Smith's own book-related ventures all took root in the church. But the operation about which he is most eager to share is the affordable housing initiative which led the congregation to buy an abandoned public school and to renovate it into a mixed-income rental housing property. According to Smith, all of these efforts enable a continuing weeklong conversation that leads to new projects and stronger community.

As a United Methodist, I admire the way that Smith and the Englewood Sunday circle have discovered a form of conversation which shares a kindred spirit with John Wesley's conferencing. In a culture that seems to have no time for difficult social interactions carried out face-to-face, the deepening community at Englewood is a witness to the continuing power of distinctly Christian modes of being in the world. Smith acknowledges this by calling this kind of dialogue "Eucharistic," marked by the "radical self-denial that defined the life and death of Jesus and that we remember in the celebration of the Eucharist" (21).

The Virtue of Dialogue is no naive celebration of bloodless harmony; it is born of a particular community's patient practice over many years of the ways of Christian community. Though he offers no concrete guide for how groups might take this journey in other contexts, Smith extends an invitation for other struggling congregations to fall in love with their communities and to return to the discipline of shared conversation. In this short, hope-filled treatise, Smith combats the narrative of decline by reminding us that the quality of Christian communal life is defined more by how it exists in the world than by how well it mirrors the cultural indicators of success. As Stanley Hauerwas says, in a quote Smith uses to preface his work, "People that are together to be together, that's just another name for hell, as Sartre well understood. You never are together [simply] to be together, you're together because you have something you want to do, work that [needs to be done]" (2).

*all page notations are from the electronic edition
review originally appeared in Catapult magazine: [...], 16 March 2012
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Effective Dialogue February 28, 2012
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A substantial portion of the book is the telling of the story of Englewood Christian Church in Indiana, where Smith and his family are members. I love a good story, and this one is well told. Smith traces the history of the church from its beginnings in the late 19th century to present day, weaving in the ups and downs of the congregation's past, including how it went from a mega-church to less than 200 in attendance within a few decades. The main focus of the story is how both the church and the Englewood neighborhood itself have begun to flourish again and how the church's "Sunday Night Conversations" played an important role in the recent neighborhood changes.

From the title of the book, I wasn't convinced before reading it that this wouldn't be yet another call for churches to have small groups where people can interact with one another and be participants rather than consumers. An important message, but one I've heard many times in recent years. That's not what this book is about.

Through the story's narrative, Smith tells how the members of Englewood Christian Church as a whole began meeting every Sunday night to talk to one another about their core beliefs and how healing and growth came as they worked at listening to one another instead of tearing one another down. Those same principles of talking and listening (which is what a dialogue or conversation is, right?) soon transferred to how they interacted with their neighbors, and the church became an active participant and leader in the community to keep gentrification from changing Englewood. And lest you think that all they do at Englewood is sit around and talk, I was excited to read about all the things the church is doing in their community through business and gardening and sustainable food initiatives and real estate.

The Virtue of Dialogue doesn't give a program or outline for how your church can have the kinds of conversation that Englewood has. It isn't a prescriptive method with a list of discussion questions that will guarantee your congregation has productive dialogue both within the walls of its building and with others in its community. Smith makes a point of saying more than once that what works for Englewood won't necessarily work for every church in the same way and that each congregation needs to go through the messy process of stumbling through the early stages of growing in dialogue. That messy process is part of the whole point. We have to get beyond the mindset of efficiency and productivity and realize that not everything in our lives that is good and beneficial for growth can be measured in charts and graphs. Conversation takes time, it can't be rushed or defined, it doesn't always have a tangible outcome at the end of every gathering -- and that is OK.
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