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Then & Now [Import, Original recording remastered]

Emerson, Lake & PalmerAudio CD
3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)

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Considered by many to be one of rock's original first super-groups, Emerson Lake & Palmer formed in England in 1970 consisting of Keith Emerson (keyboards), Greg Lake (bass guitar, vocals, guitar) and Carl Palmer (drums, percussion). The band created a brand new world of music, combining classical and symphonic rock fused with beautiful vocals. Their penchant for appropriating themes ... Read more in Amazon's Emerson, Lake & Palmer Store

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  • Audio CD (June 5, 2006)
  • Original Release Date: 2006
  • Number of Discs: 2
  • Format: Import, Original recording remastered
  • Label: Sanctuary UK
  • ASIN: B000F3T88M
  • Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #921,709 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Toccata
2. Take A Pebble Excerpts
3. Karn Evil 9
4. Time & A Place
5. Piano Concerto No.1 - Third Movement
6. From The Beginning
7. Karn Evil 9 - First Impression Part 2
8. Tiger In A Spotlight
9. Hoedown
10. Touch & Go
11. Knife Edge
12. Bitches Crystal
13. Honky Tonk Train Blues
14. Take A Pebble
15. Luicky Man
16. Fanfare For The Common Man - Blue Rondo A La Turk
17. 21st Century Schizoid Man - America

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Reissue of this two CD live album, originally released in 1998. Features live performances from Cal Jam '74 ('Then') and various shows in the '90s ('Now'). Castle. 2006.

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20 of 22 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Some moments of brilliance, but not enough August 11, 2001
By Laon
Format:Audio CD
From my point of view the main interest in this collection was going to be the "Then" material. Not out of nostaligia, but simply because in the 70s ELP were a great band: awesomely creative, risk-taking, energetic but humanised by Lake's acoustic playing and pure-and-powerful tenor voice (as it then was). Odd, in a way, that they were so reviled during the punk revolution: the virtuosity may have been unfashionable, but the speed thrills, the noise, and the occasional humour were very much part of that spirit.
And the 1974 "Then" material doesn't disappoint; it includes probably the best versions of Karn Evil 9 Part 3 released, for accuracy, energy and conviction. It's also possibly the only one in which Emerson's "voice of the computer" interjections sound genuinely dangerous rather than slightly silly.
Unlike the previous reviewer (who writes a fair review) I don't have a problem with the sound of the 70s recording: good enough is good enough, in my book. What I do have a problem with is the selection. For example we get Carl Palmer's drum solo from _Toccata_, without getting _Toccata_ itself. A fade in to a drum solo, fading out at the end, is not a smart decision, no matter how good the drum solo might be.
And we only get the last half of _Take a Pebble_. It starts at Lake's mid-song acoustic break, for _Still, You Turn me On_ and _Lucky Man_, for which Lake is in fine form both vocally and on guitar. Though I miss the classical-influenced acoustic guitar solo from the original studio version. The track moves on to Emerson's piano improvisations, which are also excellent, and interesting to compare to the improvisations on the _Welcome Back My Friends_ live set, recorded a year earlier.
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11 of 11 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars The fires still burn!! ELP hasn't lost a thing!! March 7, 1999
Format:Audio CD
Emerson, Lake & Palmer consider themselves to be primarily a "live-performance" band, which probably accounts for the number of live albums they've released through the years (6). "Then & Now" shows that even in their later years, the trio has lost little of their energy. The CD cover art harks back to the band's "Brain Salad Surgery" days with a nicely-rendered Giger-esque painting. The "Then" portion on CD#1 contains material that differs little from the group's 1974 "Welcome Back My Friends..." release, save that the "Toccata" track on the current CD features only Carl Palmer's percussion solo and leaves out the rest of the song. The track is unfortunately abortive and should have been either expanded or left off. More satisfying is the "Now" portion of the CD, which yields live performances of "A Time and a Place," "From the Beginning" and "Bitches Crystal" that have never been released on any of the band's live CDs. These tracks alone are worth the price of the CD. "Then & Now" also features a complete live version of "Karn Evil 9, 1st Impression, Part 2" that has been sadly missing from the groups' other recent live releases, and it's nice to hear it once again. On the down side, some numbers -- particularly "Knife Edge" -- have been performed so many times before on previous live albums that the inclusion of this track seems utterly unnecessary, and seems intended to fill space rather than to contribute anything new or different. Read more ›
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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars "Stocking you with the same Stuffing" May 8, 1999
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
Then & Now is re-hashed material from ELP that we've already heard before. It contains 2 cds of live music. The 1st is 2/3s filled with the California Jam concert from the seventies then 1 1/3 disks of good material recently recorded (but nothing new). The sound recording from the 70s is muddled and on both CDs at the end of each song the sound is faded out. This really takes away from the excitment that really could have been. My advice if you only want one live ELP CD set, go with the King Buscuit set that one also has CD-Rom interactive videos and pictures.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars No Garlands of Martian Fire Flowers For Anybody Here September 22, 2004
Format:Audio CD
I don't know how this album got past ELP's Quality Control. I remember enjoying the '97-'98 shows that form the more recent part of this set, but I didn't enjoy these recordings. Greg Lake either had a cold when these recordings were made or else he is losing his voice. Either way, why put out an album to document the fact? The recent material also duplicates alot of the older material from the first part, which is performed alot better and with alot more energy and enthusiasm. So the newer stuff pales in comparison the the older stuff, even with the dodgy sound quality (it sounds like somebody put a cassette player up to the speaker of his/her TV in 1974 -- it's sound quality that I would expect on a bootleg) and bad edits.

So you have well-recorded but poorly performed material from 1997-8 and well-performed but poorly recorded material from 1974. I don't think anyone is well-served by this effort. No garlands of Martian fire flowers for anyone involved in the making of this ablum!
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
4.0 out of 5 stars Good Album
If you are a fan of ELP you will really enjoy this album. There are some unique cuts on here that really showcase the groups talents.
Published 17 months ago by David Andrews
5.0 out of 5 stars Emerson Lake & Palmer - 'Then And Now' (Eagle Entertainment)
Main reason I'm giving this 2-CD release a five-star rating is because it was a but different than most other live ELP discs I've heard. Read more
Published on February 12, 2006 by Mike Reed
4.0 out of 5 stars a good compilation
This is probably the best compilation that I have heard. I have been a faithful ELP fan since the 1970's, and have bought most if not all of the releases. Read more
Published on February 6, 2001 by A. Garland
4.0 out of 5 stars Not TOO Bad
I am not a die-hard ELP fan like most of the people that have reviewed here. I just liked "Tarkus" and thought i'd buy this one at the local music store, and a good deal... Read more
Published on January 1, 2001 by Brandon S.
5.0 out of 5 stars Progressive Rock Musical Virtuosity; Past & Present
This CD captures two eras of Emerson, Lake & Palmer and their exceptional musical virtuosity. Disc One is comprised mostly of the "Then" portion; their 1974... Read more
Published on December 25, 1998
5.0 out of 5 stars 20 years of coherence in music making
Many call them dynossaurs. In today's desert of music, every new record of ELP brings a blow of fresh air. They are a demonstration that good music has no labels. Read more
Published on November 27, 1998
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