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11 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The History You Haven't Heard,
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This review is from: There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire (Transformation of the Classical Heritage) (Hardcover)
I hadn't known that in the Christian antique world, there was a championing, at least among some, of the idea of "sacred violence." Primarily, this manifested itself in gangs of monks attacking pagan temples and synagogues, and in the Empire coercively pursuing unity among the various factions.
Gaddis covers the "late antiquity" period in Christian history, from Diocletian's persecution to the Council of Chalcedon in 451. The roots of the violence that would occur from Constantine's time onward has its roots in the experience of the early Christian community, whose worldview was shaped by martyrdom and persecution. To my surprise, I learned that the early martyrs never saw themselves as passive victims of violence for worshiping as they pleased. Rather, they saw martyrdom as a spiritual combat against the demons of the persecutors. When Diocletian's edict was posted, one Christian angrily ripped it down, meaning that at least some wanted to actively seek out martyrdom. Records indicate that those who were killed in retaliation for smashing idols were not to be honored as martyrs, indicating that the practice was fairly common. The concept of martyrdom, which literally means witness, expanded to include avenging dangers to the faith. Gaddis covers lots of material in his excellent book, and here are some more important points: * The early monastic movement does not come off well. Zealots who wandered the country side smashing temples were almost all monks. Further, there was virtually no check on their behavior, and they saw themselves as inflicting God's anger on His enemies. The pagan orator Libanus angrily denounced "black-robed tribes" who wandered the countryside in Syria, terrorizing peasants, begging for food and money, and generally committing banditry. The Egyptian monk Shenoute, after ransacking a prominent Pagan's house in search of idols, was charged with crimes. His reply was "there is no crime for those who have Christ." * Some famous saints had a dark side. For instance, John Chrysostom once preached that his congregants were to admonish blasphemers, and if that didn't work, to hit them. "Sanctify thy hand by the blow." A local synod accused Chrysostom of hitting a man and forcing him to take communion while his mouth was bleeding. Ambrose, who is perhaps best remembered for rebuking Theodosius after massacring civilians in a battle, also urged him not to prosecute monks who had ransacked several Pagan temples. * The State, like the zealots, felt it had to use violence, but to bring about unity, not purity. Augustine was particularly important in this regard. * The State was also afraid to take strong action against the monks and mobs, out of fear that they would be seen as "persecutors." Persecution was a core concept in that time. * In fact, many zealots saw the continued presence of idolatry and heresy as a form of persecution, and believed that the Empire was "persecuting" Christians for its continued tolerance of Paganism. Gaddis' study gives the reader on how violence was understood within the worldview of early Christian history. Essentially, violence was used to maintain boundaries between different religious communities, or to unite them. As the author notes at the end, Shenoute's claim, that there is no crime for those who have Christ, did not go uncontested.
8 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
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A Masterpiece,
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This review is from: There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire (Transformation of the Classical Heritage) (Hardcover)
Michael Gaddis' work touches on some of the same territory covered by Ramsay MacMullen in his recent work, Voting About God. These works compliment each other well. MacMullen focuses on the actual church councils but touches upon the violence, while Gaddis looks more closely at the violence itself, its origins, its role in the imperial system, and its appropriation by the Christian movement.
The author's writing style, while not as engaging as that of MacMullen, is still very good and easy to follow. His prose is not turgid or difficult and it is not bogged down by foreign turns of phrase, or, as often happens in scholarly works, chunks of untranslated Latin, Greek, or German text. I do think the author makes certain basic assumptions that are by no means proven. Necessarily, given the scope of his work, he cannot go far back into the imperial past and offer a in-depth treatment of repression and toleration and it needs to be understood that the Roman system was by no means unusually intolerant for the period. On the other hand, he does not fall into the trap of Richard Horsley, who seems to include Rome as a foremost member of the "Axis of Evil." Too, he treats the "persecutions" as though they happened exactly as Christian mythology claims, which is by no means proven. A good case can be made that none of the first nine persecutions claimed by apologists took place. The last, that of Diocletian, is more problematic, but even here we do not know enough about what Diocletian did, or why, since we have only the account of his opponents to go on. As MacMullen has elsewhere noted, the weight and bias of Christian sources distorts our view of this era. These faults aside, Gaddis pulls no punches when it comes to examining the violent nature of late imperial rule, something MacMullen has also touched on in several of his works. It was a dark, brutal period, and Gaddis sees the origins of violence in the need for consensus. This, he thinks, motivated Diocletian, and he believes it motivated Constantine and the Christian rulers who followed him to the throne. But it is not only the secular leadership of the empire but the rank and file who embraced violence. Gaddis does well to point out that just because a group sees itself as persecuted does not mean that it is, and that in the case of these early Christians, even the existence of polytheism was seen as persecution of a sort. Christians stopped at nothing to show their displeasure, from acts of violence guaranteed to see them beaten, imprisoned, or killed (both by pagan or Christian authorities) to open persecution of polytheists, so-called heretics, and Jews. Like MacMullen, Gaddis makes clear that Christian hatred was as great or greater for other Christians than for pagans. What sets this book apart is its focus on religious violence. It is by no means the first book to examine monotheistic violence but it's focus on the early Christian empire makes it especially interesting as it is this period which set the tone for all that happened in the centuries following. It is a book every Christian should read. It will disabuse them of the notion that the "conversion" was some sort of peaceful process, or the myth that pagans rushed to worship the Christian god as soon as it became the state religion. As MacMullen has said, Christianity was imposed from above through violent measures, measures that had no limit, and Gaddis does not disagree.
0 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
Too Expensive,
By Dalton McTeague (Claremont, NH) - See all my reviews
This review is from: There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire (Transformation of the Classical Heritage) (Hardcover)
I would love to own this book or even borrow it from the library but it's not available. If the price was $25 I would buy it today. One problem for me is that I'm not interested in all the articles. Still I can't afford even $35 used. For readers interested in the topic of persecution of the pagans I recommend Christianizing the Roman Empire (A.D. 100-400) by Ramsay MacMullen. It can be bought for a few dollars used.
Does the book deserve one star because it's too expensive? Of course not. But it angers me that some books are kept out of reach because they are over priced. There are publishers of out-of-print books that sell books through Amazon.com for about $25, and these are books that are photocopied. So I don't get that the new price for Gaddis' book is $60. What it has to say is important and that should be the main motivation for making this type of book available to as many readers as possible. When Gaddis' book becomes affordable used I'll buy it. Thank god for on-line sellers of used books.
1 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
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There Is No Crime,
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This review is from: There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire (Transformation of the Classical Heritage) (Hardcover)
Michael Gaddis looks at Christian violence in the Roman Empire. Christians were persecuted and expelled and killed in the Roman Empire. Gaddis explores violence as a way to divide "us" from "them" and also a way to unite the empire. Not only would the Romans subscribe to violence as a way to unite and divide but later the Christians would as well.
0 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
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Best book on the Subject!,
By Archimedes "Truth Seeker" (Red Hill) - See all my reviews
This review is from: There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire (Transformation of the Classical Heritage) (Hardcover)
This is a great, scholarly, work, by an accomplished writer. Much research went into the making of this book, as is evidenced by the plethora of reference notes to back it up. The bibliography is extensive and is divided into modern works and ancient sources.
From this book, my research has branched into many different directions, which for me is a little frustrating, but exciting nonetheless. Definintely not a dead-end book. He give a thourough analysis of religious violence from both pagan and Christian perspectives and explains the history of this time period in a way this is often not explained. He shows history how it was, not how he wants it to be. I have been so used to hearing false histories or "the history of the victor's" that it is enlightening to see this author finally delve into the true historical record and uncover much of what has lain in the dark for far too long. I strongly recommend this book to anyone with a serious interest in the Late Roman Empire, or early Christianity.
3 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
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The New Republic gave this book a rave review,
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This review is from: There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire (Transformation of the Classical Heritage) (Hardcover)
In late November 2006, the New Republic gave this book a stellar review. The book might also be read profitably alongside another good book on early Christian history: "The Closing of the Western Mind."
1 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
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Crimes Against Humanity Are the Ultimate Sin,
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This review is from: There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire (Transformation of the Classical Heritage) (Hardcover)
This book has such profound implications for every aspect of human culture that I hardly know where to begin. But I want to keep it simple so you will understand the true relevance of this book.
It's important to differentiate between the words *crime* and *sin*. This is where all the trouble comes from throughout world history. A crime is an infraction of *social* rules. Social rules are sometimes limited to a family or a tribe. But there is a curious phenomenon in regard to social rules. One tribe's rules against murder may be "waived" if the murder is committed against the member of another tribe. Therefore, killing a member of another tribe is not only not a sin---which is an infraction against the rules of God---it isn't even a *crime*! in some cases. And this is the theological error of virtually every religion on earth. Harm is harm. Suffering is suffering. Deciding that one is immune from the consequences of causing suffering to an innocent human being is the ultimate lie. And it is typically justified by the idea that there is no crime unless it is committed against one's in-group. This is the philosophy that allowed Nazis to make soap out of Jews. And this is the philosophy that allows Israelis to treat Palestinians badly. The only way to reverse the situation, for all of mankind, is to realize that harming people outside of one's in-group is not only a crime, but a sin. A sin against humanity, not just one's own tribe. The mentality described in this book is *the root of all evil*! Once a person decides that they have a "license to commit evil" there is nothing to restrain them from committing evil on a vast scale. This way of thinking dethrones God and enthrones the Devil. It was always so, and always thus shall be. This is how people who see themselves as righteous end up in hell, to their great surprise. Jesus said, "by their fruit you shall know them." Any "Christians" who tell themselves that there is no crime for them because they have Christ, is not a Christian but just another person justifying the evils they commit. Christian history is rife with examples. It makes me tend to agree with Mark Twain's well known quote: "The last true Christian died on the cross." |
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