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Product Details

  • Series: Council Wars
  • Mass Market Paperback: 752 pages
  • Publisher: Baen; Reprint edition (November 1, 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0743488598
  • ISBN-13: 978-0743488594
  • Product Dimensions: 4.2 x 1.2 x 6.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 12 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (130 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #214,600 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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"Ringo provides a textbook example of how a novel in the military SF subgenre should be written. . . . For those who have read everything David Drake has written or who may have wished that Tom Clancy, Larry Bond or Harold Coyle would write SF, Ringo provides what's needed. . . . Crackerjack storytelling." --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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I'm a professional author of... Well, I used to say "science fiction." Then came There Will Be Dragons, which is sf with a distinct fantasy twist. Then came Ghost which is techno-thriller crossed with porn. Then came Princess of Wands, a Christian soccer mom battling demons through the power of God. Who knows what's next? Children's books? (I've actually got that one mapped out. You see, there's this girl who is raised by dolphins... You think I'm joking, don't you?)

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Very well developed story line.
alicia bolton
This is a minor nit, but I heartily recommend the book to those who like science fiction, fantasy, military science fiction, and history.
There Will Be Dragons was particularly interesting for its blueprint on how to rebuild a society devoid of higher technology.
Gary Ray

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35 of 35 people found the following review helpful By Harriet Klausner #1 HALL OF FAME on November 21, 2003
Format: Hardcover
Humanity lives in a veritable Garden of Eden with disease and death conquered. Mankind lives almost like Gods in a Utopian Olympus controlled by the computer "Mother", who monitors and calculates probable outcomes. Mother realizes that there is a 99.9999915% chance that the humans will go to war as the council, who oversees her, is squabbling and there is a 17.347% probability they will wipe out the species. However, Mother is not programmed to warn humanity or any other intelligent speices (machine or animal).
The war causes massive destruction with no corner of the globe immune. In isolated Raven's Mill, smith and self proclaimed historian Edmund Talbot sees refugees seeking asylum while warlords assault anyone. Elves visit him to help save mankind, but it may be too late. Enemies from Edmund's past and new foes realize that to conquer, they must eliminate Edmund first. He is the key for the 82.653% survival of the species; that is if he is not distracted by the fact that his daughter is out there as a perfect pawn to destroy him. Mother knows that without Edmund the survival odds are reversed.
THERE WILL BE DRAGONS is an exciting blending of future science fiction with some fantasy elements into a delightful action-packed tale. The story line never slows down from the moment Mother computes the odds in a mundane ho hum manner. The cast seems genuine whether they are "perfect" human, elf, other mythological creature, or man working the land. Still it is John Ringo's world that makes Paradise obtained and Paradise Lost seem credible that makes this fab tale so much fun. Fans will anxiously await sequels to ascertain whether humanity finds Paradise Regained.
Harriet Klausner
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38 of 41 people found the following review helpful By Shawn Hougo on November 11, 2003
Format: Hardcover
My idea of Television is reading multiple books at the same time. Its just like being a regular viewer of television. You read a few chapters, put that book down and pick up the next.
I was planning to do this yesterday. I had the whole day to myself and looked forward to the books I was enjoying. Until I picked up There Will Be Dragons.
I couldn't put it down. Of course I finished it yesterday and now I'm upset because I can't have more.
By the way; that only happened one other time this year. The name of that book was "A hymn before battle."
John Ringo is one hell of an author.
The cover of There Will Be Dragons would make one believe that it was a fantasy story. That is not the case. It is purely Sci-Fi in its finest form. The story is set in the 40th century(?) where people have advanced to the point in which they can change their form to be anything from the most beautiful human imaginable to a unicorn.
The book begins with society being nearly euphoric. Then because of political infighting, control of the energy which sustains that euphoria is subverted and all of society reverts to a preindustrialized level.
The plot builds quickly and the momentum never stops. I dare you to pick this book up. You can't put it down.
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39 of 43 people found the following review helpful By Phillip B. Spotts on January 5, 2004
Format: Hardcover
THERE WILL BE DRAGONS is the first episode in a new series by John Ringo. To be honest I really didn't want to like this book. I am so angry with Ringo for what he has done, or better yet not done, to the MARCH and the Posleen series, that is take a wonderful story and drive it straight to hell!
As much as I wanted to trash it I can't. It is a truly good story with exciting, vibrant characters, great storyline (not very original, see EARTH ABIDES, THE STAND, ALAS BABYLON, etc.) but when your dealing with a high tech civilization being reduced to pre-industrial revolution levels it's a darn good one. Although the basic storyline isn't original the way he gets there is.
Do I RECOMMENDED it? Yes, it's too well written not to. I enjoyed it, but I'm still afraid that about two books into the series good ol' Mr. Ringo is going to get bored again and leave us hanging with either no follow-up, or even worst a pathetic thrown together ending like that crud in HELL'S FAIRE. But, where there's life there's hope...
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14 of 15 people found the following review helpful By Amazon Customer on November 10, 2003
Format: Hardcover
It's not often I read a book where the author mixes low-tech fantasy with high-tech science fiction and makes it interesting. But John Ringo does a darn good job of it in this book. He takes a future Utopia, where all the work anyone has to do is say "Genie, another beer", and asks the age old question, "What is the worst thing I can do to these characters short of killing them?"
The result is a high-tech war between feuding Council members using Clarkian level technology (indistinquishable from magic), while the rest of the world is suddenly denied the energy net that provides just about everything in their lives, and has to fight a low-tech war with nothing more advanced than cold steel, just to survive.
I highly recommend this book to any fans of sword-and-sorcery fantasy, as well as anyone else who likes Baen's style of books.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful By John A Lee III on July 30, 2005
Format: Mass Market Paperback Verified Purchase
I had a hard time getting started on this one but it was worth the effort and turned into a real page-turner.

I like Ringo's other works. He writes military science fiction well and does so with the knowledge of someone who knows something about the military and military culture. He also does so with a sense of humor and knowledge of history which is gratifying to one who knows to look for it. This time, it seemed as if he went off the deep end. I suppose he did but he took me along with him.

The story takes place in the far future in a utopian society where everyone has access to immense power to make their lives easier. Nano technology and genetics have progressed to the point where the early chapters seem more like magic than any sort of speculation based on rational thought. People can change themselves into dragons, elves or whatever else seems to strike their fancies. The government of the world, such as it is, is in the hands of twelve members of "the council". They are aided and overseen by artificial intelligences who mostly take a "let the humans work things out themselves" approach. It is all very idyllic until some members of the council attempt a coup. The result is a civil war but that is just the "easy" part.

There is an almost immediate crash of technology world wide. Survivors are thrown back into a pre-industrial way of life and where there is such chaos, there is never any shortage of bad guys to try and take advantage. This happens while the surviving Council members continue to wage a higher tech war against each other.

Although things seem utterly unbelievable at first for the reader, they do get better. Ringo does a good job of rationalizing the events of his story and filling in the background. The result is something that is believable and, more important, it is entertaining.

This looks to be the beginning of a highly entertaining series.
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