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98 of 98 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Generally good survey of early Christian Torah-observance,
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This review is from: They Loved the Torah: What Yeshua's First Followers Really Thought about the Law (Paperback)
This is a hard review to write...I'm sorry for the length of the following review, but I truly hope it is helpful.First, the positives: (1) The book does a great job of examining many of the misconceptions about the early church and Yeshua (Jesus) himself. The author shows that there is much to suggest that most people in the early church did in fact remain Jews and continue to observe the Torah. (2) The book shows that Yeshua was in fact a Torah-observant Jew. Many of the passages which have been argued as supporting that Christ was not Torah-observant are examined, and explained as consistent with, not contrary to, Jewish theology of the day. The best examples are those where Yeshua argued that it was OK to heal on Shabbat (Sabbath); the author shows us that this was not a unique discussion between the P'rushim (Pharisees). (3) Closely related to (2) above, the author does a good job of showing that when our scripture tells us that Christ said something to a group of religious leaders, he was doing just that--addressing a GROUP of religions leaders, and that the religious leaders Christ was addressing at that time was not necessarily exemplary of the whole, or even the majority, of Jewish religious thought of the day. (4) The book is pretty concise, and can be completed in a fairly short time. That, coupled with the low price, makes it a good book to add to your library. Now, the cons...I list these because they are what I see as real areas in which the author could have improved his work. I am not disagreeing with what the author wrote, his religious ideology, or anything of the sort. (1) As I read the book, it occurred to me that in order to really understand everything that the author is trying to convey to you, in some places a previous study on some Jewish words, concepts, and ideas is really necessary. Not to say that you will be crippled if you don't have that background, but you will find yourself at a slight, but real, disadvantage. The catch-22 is this: if you have that background, then you already know much of what this author is going to tell you! (2) While I agree with the author's premise, and mostly with his conclusions, sometimes his rationale in arriving at the conclusion is a little dubious. For example, in order to prove to you, the reader, that Christ observed the kashrut (kosher) laws of his time, you are shown that the scriptures never tell you about Christ eating anything that was not allowed under kashrut. In fact, the author only really points out three kinds of food which Christ ate (or endorsed): bread, fish, and figs. Well, that's all well and good, but anyone who has had Logic 101 knows that you simply cannot prove a positive with a negative. Therefore, attempting to prove (with three foods) that Yeshua was kashrut-observant merely because the scripture doesn't tell us otherwise is a problem. The author excludes the most convincing evidence for this point which he is trying to make: that Kefa (Peter) later said when he had his vision with the unclean animals that he had never eaten anything forbidden by kashrut. A better logic than that which the author employs is to show that if Yeshua had not observed kashrut, and taught that it was not necessary, then Kefa's strong objection to the command to eat something forbidden by kashrut would not have been so strong: it would not have been revolutionary to him if Christ had already taught him that kashrut was optional. (In fact, the author does mention this exchange in order to prove that Kefa was Torah-observant, but does not employ it to show that Christ followed kashrut, instead choosing the logic discussed above.) (3) While the author does a relatively good job of showing that the earliest Christians followed Torah, he does not discuss when that changed--namely, it appears that by the time the book of Hebrews was written, its audience had been forced out of the Jewish community by virtue of their Christian faith. As a result, they were not able to partake in Jewish rites and ceremonies, which may have been the reason for the letter (see "The Theology of the Letter to the Hebrews," by Barnabus Lindars, (1991)). Unfortunately, the author doesn't discuss this change in the Christian-Jewish dynamic. This is a very nit-picky point, and I know that. However, I do think it would make the book better if at least some discussion of that change were included. Overall, it is a good book, with the slight reservations discussed above. The author does not try to persuade you of a dogma that would require non-Jews to observe the rigorous laws of the Torah. Rather, his point is well taken, that we should not discard it or consider it irrelevant, but should cherish it and study it for the things it teaches us.
53 of 58 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Uprooting false teachings,
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This book is great at exposing lies concerning the relationship of Yeshua, his talmidim (disciples), and others who followed after him with the Torah. They loved, cherished, and observed it fully! The NT does not teach an end to the Torah. On the contrary, it teaches a fresher revelation of it!
35 of 37 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Knowledge is truly power!,
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"They Loved the Torah" is a MUST for biblical study! This beautifully written work asks the pivital question "Does God still expect us to live a Torah led life AFTER Yeshua came?"He does an amazing job showing us the answer through the New Testement! Dr. Friedman's thoughts will leave quite an impression on your mind and heart! Thank you for writing this book and I look forward to much more..........
32 of 36 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Was Yashua and His followers Torah observant?,
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This book provides an excellent discourse on how Jesus and His followers were Torah observant. This book would certainly provide a clear and concise reference for a Bible study or group.What I really liked was the readability of this book. The reader will not be intimidated by scholarly language and endless footnotes. For those of you that are struggling with the historical interpretations that speak of Jesus's disregard for the Torah, GOOD. This book should help firm up those concerns and provide you with a valuable line of reasoning for debating the subject.
30 of 34 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent,
This review is from: They Loved the Torah: What Yeshua's First Followers Really Thought about the Law (Paperback)
One of the most incredible books that I have ever read. It changed my view of the Law and its relevance for people today. I think that this book should be read by anyone, either Jewish or Christian, who is interested in history or theology.Monty
18 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Knowledge is truly power!,
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This review is from: They Loved the Torah: What Yeshua's First Followers Really Thought about the Law (Paperback)
"They Loved the Torah" is a MUST for biblical study! This beautifully written work asks the pivital question "Does God still expect us to live a Torah led life AFTER Yeshua came?"He does an amazing job showing us the answer through the New Testement! Dr. Friedman's thoughts will leave quite an impression on your mind and heart! Thank you for writing this book and I look forward to much more..........
11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A good place to start.,
By J.L. Populist (WI,USA) - See all my reviews
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This book is good for reading about Yahushua's Torah observance. The fact that Messiah attended and taught in the Temple validates the idea that He followed Torah. A quote in the book sums it up well "Both Jewish and Christian scholars clearly see that Yeshua followed the Torah." The author highlights some Scripture that can be easily over-looked. Some examples are found in Acts 22:12,21:20. "zealous for Law" and "devout man according to the Law" are two phrases that bear a close look. "Law" or "the law" in the NT is usually another name for Torah. These two passages make it clear that there were Messianic believers that still followed Torah!Mr Friedman wrote a fascinating section about the "early Church fathers" and their knowledge of the existence of Messianic Jews that followed Torah in the 1st century. He also wrote a very good chapter about Paul's actions and writing style. He could have gone further with some of his arguments. An interesting caveat regarding the Jersualem Concils' decision about the conditions for the believers at Antioch;Acts 15:21"for since ancient times,Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him and he is read in the synagogue every Sabbath day." Reading Chapter 15, it could be argued that the motive for following the conditions was to gain access to the synagogue for the purpose of being exposed to Torah(Laws of Moses). According to Matthew 5:17-18 Torah is still valid. This book is a good starting point for anyone that wants to study what the Messiah and his early followers thought and taught regarding Torah.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Lives Up to Its Title,
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This book is limited in scope, but it succeeds in its goal: demonstrating by internal Biblical evidence that Jesus and Paul were Torah observant throughout their lifetimes.This book is an easy read and offers a few tidbits not found in other volumes. I especially enjoyed discovering the Jewish rabbinic concept of "Talmid hakham," meaning "leading student" (of a rabbi) and how this could be what Christ meant when He referred to Peter as a "rock." Much of what the author states is found in other works, such as "Restoring the Jewishness of the Gospel" or "The Enduring Paradox." If you expect this book to be an extensive treatise on the relationship of the New Testament believer (or even Messianic Jew) to the Torah, you will be disappointed. The author does not address the "schoolmaster" text of Galatians or the "every day is alike" text of Romans. But he does prove that Jesus and Paul (and, more weakly, Peter and John) observed the Torah. A great "entry book" toward understanding the early church's views toward Messianic Judaism and a great rebuttal to those who look upon the Torah with contempt.
4.0 out of 5 stars
What DID Yeshua do?,
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Dr. Friedman did an excellent job of presenting the facts of Yeshua and his Disciple's Torah Observance. My favorite quote of the book, which sums up its message, is found in the preface: "Entering the world of Torah is a privilege". The author does well to address the attitude that has affected Mainstream Christianity for year-the Torah as a curse and bondage. Studying the Torah is an eye-opening exercise in faith.This book is a good overview for those who are curious about coming Torah Observant. It is not controversial. However, the author chooses passages that are easier to address (ex: Matthew 15 instead of Mark 7, where the language about kosher eating is more difficult to understand). There were other areas I wish the author would have addressed but overall, this was a good introductory work. I thought the best portion of the book was "The Early Church Fathers". Dr. Friedman quotes from the anti-Semitic early theologians that have affected our views of the Torah more than we realize. Mainstream Christianity needs to realize that our stream was polluted early on. It's time to address the less than ideal origins of erroneous theology. This book causes the reader to ask, "What did Jesus do?" Christians would do well to live as Yeshua did. The Torah can actually be a witnessing tool. When we submit ourselves to the power of the Holy Spirit to live by the Living Torah (Yeshua), our lights will shine brighter.
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent book with lots of references,
By love4holiness (Indiana, USA) - See all my reviews
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Great book. Great Scripture references to show how Jesus & his disciples were Torah-observant & how we should follow in their footsteps. Excellent read.
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