Rented from RentU
To Rent, select Shipping State from options above
Due Date: May 28, 2015
FREE return shipping at the end of the semester. Access codes and supplements are not guaranteed with rentals.
FREE Shipping on orders over $35.
Condition: Used: Acceptable
Comment: Item may not include associated media.
Access codes and supplements are not guaranteed with used items.
Qty:1
In Stock.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.
Gift-wrap available.
Sell yours for a Gift Card
We'll buy it for $7.39
Learn More
Trade in now
Have one to sell? Sell on Amazon
Flip to back Flip to front
Listen Playing... Paused   You're listening to a sample of the Audible audio edition.
Learn more
See this image

"They Say / I Say": The Moves That Matter in Academic Writing with Readings (Second Edition) Paperback – 2012

ISBN-13: 978-0393912753 ISBN-10: 0393912752 Edition: Second Edition

Buy New
Price: $43.47
Rent
Price: $16.23 - $20.09
57 New from $40.00 192 Used from $20.75
Rent from Amazon Price New from Used from
Paperback
"Please retry"
$16.23
$43.47
$40.00 $20.75

There is a newer edition of this item:

Free Two-Day Shipping for College Students with Amazon Student Free%20Two-Day%20Shipping%20for%20College%20Students%20with%20Amazon%20Student


Frequently Bought Together

"They Say / I Say": The Moves That Matter in Academic Writing with Readings (Second Edition) + The Little Seagull Handbook (Second Edition)
Price for both: $72.54

Buy the selected items together
NO_CONTENT_IN_FEATURE

Hero Quick Promo
12 Days of Kindle Book Deals
Load your library with Amazon's editors' picks, $2.99 or less each today only. Learn more

Product Details

  • Paperback: 701 pages
  • Publisher: W. W. Norton & Company; Second Edition edition (2012)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0393912752
  • ISBN-13: 978-0393912753
  • Product Dimensions: 0.5 x 0.1 x 0.7 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.2 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (117 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #9,107 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

Editorial Reviews

Review

“A brilliant book. . . . It’s like a membership card in the academic club.” (Eileen Seifert, DePaul University)

“Clear, fun to read, and students like it.” (Morani Kornberg-Weiss, University at Buffalo)

They Say / I Say provides the keys to successful academic writing. I’ve seen this book transform mediocre college students into academic thinkers and writers.” (Benjamin Fischer, Northwest Nazarene University)

About the Author

Gerald Graff, a professor of English and education at the University of Illinois at Chicago and 2008 president of the Modern Language Association of America, has had a major impact on teachers through such books as Professing Literature: An Institutional History, Beyond the Culture Wars: How Teaching the Conflicts Can Revitalize American Education, and Clueless in Academe: How Schooling Obscures the Life of the Mind.

Cathy Birkenstein is a lecturer in English at the University of Illinois at Chicago. She has published essays on writing in College English, and, with Gerald Graff in The Chronicle of Higher Education, Academe, and College Composition and Communication.

Russel Durst, who edited the readings in "They Say / I Say" with Readings, is head of the English Department at the University of Cincinnati, where he teaches courses in composition, writing pedagogy and research, English linguistics, and the Hebrew bible as literature. A past president of the National Conference on Research in Language and Literacy, he is the author of several books, including Collision Course: Conflict, Negotiation, and Learning in College Composition.

More About the Author

GERALD GRAFF, a Professor of English and Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago and 2008 President of the Modern Language Association of America, has had a major impact on teachers through such books as Professing Literature: An Institutional History, Beyond the Culture Wars: How Teaching the Conflicts Can Revitalize American Education, and, most recently, Clueless in Academe: How Schooling Obscures the Life of the Mind.

Customer Reviews

Great and very practical!
Charnetta Robinson
I would highly recommend this book if you need some extra help with your writing or you are taking any writing classes.
myersj045
I liked that my book was completely new and nothing was wrong with it.
Guadalupe Jimenez

Most Helpful Customer Reviews

80 of 88 people found the following review helpful By D. Fineman on May 18, 2012
Format: Paperback
I have taught college level composition for decades. I do not particularly admire this text, but I think I understand its popularity.

The academy has for 50 years become more and more bound by a publish or perish model. New Ph.D.s are expected to make contributions very quickly to advanced fields. The disproportion between the youth and inexperience of new authors and the requirement of professional work for advancement has lead to predictable outcomes. First, young writers must quickly hyper-specialize to be able to master a sub-field. Often then scholars are fairly blind to areas that are adjacent as they cannot afford "horizontal" growth. Second, they must tailor their work to what is fashionable and currently being published: this means that the typical article spends a large chunk of time in the "literature review" of what has come before: then the author "turns the screw" a little and goes on to the next half turn paper. This pattern has now come to the undergraduates, and this book is its result.

The problem is that the book skips over all the basic skills of composition as if they were already mastered. Most students do not know how to read critically the primary materials that should form the basis for original thought. Therefore, when they enter the critical literature before reading primary texts as this book suggests, they have no idea themselves where they fall in regard to the material at issue. This means they are too easily swayed by the first "plausible" argument they find. Therefore, their relation to the material in question is often tertiary.

There is a "benefit" here. They may have by this technique quickly developed a skill at passing off the thought of others as their own, but they may have not engaged the material critically.
Read more ›
7 Comments Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Sending feedback...
Thank you for your feedback. If this review is inappropriate, please let us know.
Sorry, we failed to record your vote. Please try again
13 of 13 people found the following review helpful By Sean on November 29, 2012
Format: Paperback
Once a class is finished I usually resell the book online, unless I like the book so much I know I'm going to use it again. That was the case for one of my English books. The title of the book is "They Say / I Say": The Moves That Matter in Academic Writing with Readings (Second Edition) That book made me enjoy academic writing. Freestyle writing has always been fun for me, but I never liked academic writing. I felt the standard breakdown we were taught as kids was boring. The typical--- Intro + three supporting paragraphs + a conclusion = tedious.

"They Say / I Say": The Moves That Matter in Academic Writing with Readings (Second Edition) gave me a stronger foundation to write by. It has some amazing templates that I apply to just about every paper I write. If you get stuck on how to approach writing papers, this book can help you guide the way. If the second edition is too expensive, buy the first edition used. Or check if your local library has it and give it a try before you buy it. Just get it on your shelf. I can't count the amount of times this book and its templates have assisted me. I even used it to write my application letter that helped me get into an Ivy League University.

Collegerenegade.com
Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Sending feedback...
Thank you for your feedback. If this review is inappropriate, please let us know.
Sorry, we failed to record your vote. Please try again
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful By Amazon Junkie on September 10, 2012
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
I am horrible at writing, but this book gives you play by play details of writing a perfect paper for college level. It is designed to make you provide some effort, but at the same time provide you with what to do with the information you gather.
Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Sending feedback...
Thank you for your feedback. If this review is inappropriate, please let us know.
Sorry, we failed to record your vote. Please try again
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful By Devoted Reader on February 23, 2013
Format: Paperback
I have used a version of this book for two years in freshman composition classes. Both years I heard students voluntarily exclaim how helpful the book is and that they intend to keep it so they can use it when writing papers for other classes. The first year, I used the version without readings, and I required students to buy an additional book. The following year, I used this version, which comes with its own readings. I will probably use this one (with the readings) again next year to keep students' textbook costs lower.

What students have told me they like about the book is that it helps them learn how to use sources effectively. In previous years, I struggled with teaching students how to incorporate quoted material into their own sentences instead of just plunking a quoted sentence into the paper. They Say/I Say shows them how to do it far more effectively than I was ever able to. Further, I found students using the terminology of They Say/I Say during peer reviews, which indicated to me that they truly understood what the book teaches.
Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Sending feedback...
Thank you for your feedback. If this review is inappropriate, please let us know.
Sorry, we failed to record your vote. Please try again
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful By Shane Strawbridge on March 3, 2013
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
The truth is that I am not the best at writing in an academic setting. I have excelled in popular areas, but for the most part the skills necessary to write a paper that packs a punch has been lacking. While this book won't write your papers for you, it does give you the tools to get started. A must have for graduate students.
Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Sending feedback...
Thank you for your feedback. If this review is inappropriate, please let us know.
Sorry, we failed to record your vote. Please try again
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful By RUHU on October 10, 2012
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
Need help kick-starting student research or persuasive/argument papers? This book is great. Takes a lot of the fear out of it for the students and gives you good ideas for structuring papers. I use it with a reader.
Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Sending feedback...
Thank you for your feedback. If this review is inappropriate, please let us know.
Sorry, we failed to record your vote. Please try again
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful By myersj045 on July 12, 2013
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
This book presents writing in an easy way. I bought this book for my English composition class in college. it is extremely easy to read and I can actually understand and use what the book is trying to teach. I would highly recommend this book if you need some extra help with your writing or you are taking any writing classes.
Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Sending feedback...
Thank you for your feedback. If this review is inappropriate, please let us know.
Sorry, we failed to record your vote. Please try again