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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 2:53:52 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 3, 2012 3:05:09 PM PDT
Gabi44 says:
he only went down on her once, nice equal sex..bloody bastard..hah..we live in a sex-crazy society and people find any excuse to rectify their addiction. And it is damaging to young people. I'm 26 and I feel disturbed because I never ever want anything like this. Not even the Hottest guy could make me accept exit sex ever..its kind of gay anyway..my friends and I feel this story is a step backwards for all women. My God, this girl is 21 not an old cougar like James. I'm reading Trompe-L'oeil, love it, easy to read and sexy

Posted on Jun 3, 2012 3:06:30 PM PDT
Gabi44 says:
how ironic, Amazon is promoting this Sex Book but deletes my comment

Posted on Jun 6, 2012 9:34:05 AM PDT
Ebeth822 says:
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov

Posted on Jun 6, 2012 11:39:06 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 6, 2012 11:42:11 AM PDT
Frankie says:
Taking the stand that not everything has to be intellectual is not the same as being "anti-intellectual". Reading and enjoying a book that may have technical flaws or no real social value is not in itself a danger to democracy. It is the inability to recognize that a book may have technical flaws or no social value that is a concern. You seem to think that everyone that enjoyed the book is incapable of recognizing it's not a literary masterpiece. You fail to recognize that many people can enjoy something that they realize isn't perfect or perfectly acceptable, and you just assume that, because the enjoy it, they are ignorant of its deficiencies rather than that they choose to overlook them. This lack of awareness that others may not have the same tolerances or intolerances as you is very narcissistic. If this is a pattern in your life, I suggest you seek therapy. I'm not saying that to be nasty; I really mean it. You will be a much happier person if you learn to relate to people in a healthier way.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2012 1:42:24 PM PDT
W. Westphal says:
Wow, that quote really sums up much of what has been going on in thess forums as defences.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2012 3:01:17 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 6, 2012 8:34:32 PM PDT
Onmykindle says:
Save yourself the money. Go to sharetermpapers.com and search for "snowqueens" you'll see a list of Twilight fanfic PDFs. Print out Master of the Universe I and II and you'll have all three books. She did little else but search and replace on the names.

Posted on Jun 7, 2012 1:31:34 PM PDT
W. Westphal says:
Yeah, don't give her another penny.

Posted on Jun 8, 2012 7:31:54 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 8, 2012 7:37:07 AM PDT
Gabi44 says:
In Europe nobody gives a Rat's A$$ about this Crap, go figure. How America defends that Story says a lot about their mentality..again, its all for the cheap Thrill

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 7:35:04 AM PDT
Gabi44 says:
It's defiantly a danger to your Taste in Literature, some people live of Gossip Magazines some like the more intelligent writing. Playboy has better Stories than this

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 9:58:14 AM PDT
M. says:
Are you sure you read the correct book? :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 10:03:52 AM PDT
M. says:
Bodice rippers were examples of soft porn rape. Fifty Shades required permission-mutual consent. Anybody picture the pillaging or raping pirateer asking his victim, "So,poppet,will ye let me ravish you? If not,I'll just toddle along. Sorry to bother ye?" Yeah,right.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 1:16:42 PM PDT
W. Westphal says:
We in America don't ALL love FSOG. I'm in America and everyone knows what I think about it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 2:03:07 PM PDT
Gabi44 says:
Sorry , I get that, but the Threads and the abuse here if you do not like it , even if you just try to put some doubt into peoples mind. Sorry especially to you who got dragged into some of my battles.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 6:58:44 PM PDT
I absolutely agree with you on this. I didn't buy the second book. I borrowed it from a friend who bought all three, although I will admit I was going to buy the second book. The reason being - even though I thought the first book was poorly written - there was a cliffhanger. Ana actually left Grey and I was hoping Ana would finally grow up and grow a backbone. Unfortunately that did not happen. I will not be reading the third book in this series because I don't think it will end any better.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 7:04:01 PM PDT
The BDSM theme of the book is not what put me off the book. Honestly after reading the scenes over and over again it really didn't do much for me, but Tammy I can see what you are saying and I do believe there may be some women out there that did feel this way.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2012 10:25:45 PM PDT
CHOPMOM says:
You are so right. I could not agree with you more

Posted on Jun 9, 2012 1:47:20 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 9:53:36 PM PDT
Onmykindle says:
First of all, he'd be a Dom. A Dominatrix is a female. Second, he isn't even that. He's an abuser, plain and simple. (I'm citing both friends I have actively living in a D/s relationship as well as the article here: http://www.blogher.com/troubling-message-fifty-shades-grey?page=full).

Second - your comment about her being a new author and "of course there will be errors." I have read many, many, many debut novels in my lifetime (say...JK Rowling's Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone?) and there were very few errors in that book, at least errors on the order of 50 Shades. Why? Because she went through a publisher and she had an editor. She didn't take something she posted on the internet, run search and replace in Word, and then publish it herself.

For most serious authors, editors are a vital part of the process because they catch things the author wouldn't since they're too close to the source material. I'm pretty sure Nora Roberts, Stephen King, and Nicholas Sparks would rather crawl over glass than send their first draft directly to print. This book didn't get that because publishers were only interested after the sheep took over and it was making money despite quality.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 10, 2012 8:51:02 AM PDT
W. Westphal says:
Bub, believe me, the details are not what turned us off...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 4:35:59 AM PDT
Gabi44 says:
I like Lord of the Rings , any Tolstoy , Dostoevsky, Franz Kafka , Harry Potter, Gunter Grass, Jackie Collins, Stacy Schiff , andrew Davidson, Loriots, Wilhem Bush, Baudelaire , Ken Follett, I'm all over the Place. Reading Mission Blacklist right now

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 6:02:55 AM PDT
Ebeth822 says:
Oh come on!!! Nobody LIKES Kafka. :-p

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 4:30:54 AM PDT
Gabi44 says:
How about Owen Laukkanen, Tom Rob Smith, Erin Morgenstern, Kafka is good

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 8:07:10 AM PDT
Bluebird says:
No, that's not true. Twilight was good, this series is (using Ana's lingo) crap, double crap, and the infamous "triple crap."

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 1:23:32 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 13, 2012 1:23:45 PM PDT
W. Westphal says:
Twilight was good before Breaking Dawn came out, I'll give you that.
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