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Initial post: Jul 10, 2006 9:10:20 AM PDT
bookmark says:
This book is meant for messianic jews.
Jews don't believe in the new testement.
If you are interested in learning Judiasm read either the stone editon of the Tanakh or JPS for easier entirely english version.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 23, 2007 11:27:44 AM PDT
C. Landau says:
Actually, in order to stay with an accurate translation, with no possible hint of "messianic" contamination, read Artscroll's Tanach. It's a bit costly, but SO worth the price, in that it will steer you clear of misquotes, mistranslations, and plain old fabricated lies.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2007 5:06:18 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 27, 2007 5:06:37 PM PDT
S.G. says:
I agree. The Artscroll Tanach is probably the most complete and most accruate translation of the Tanach circulating today.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2007 12:38:06 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 19, 2007 12:38:50 AM PST
TRUE Jews believe in the B'rit Hadashah as well as the Tanach.

Unfortunately you claim Jews are too stupid to ask G-d to show them His truth and are making them afraid to read the Br't Hadashah because you know Yeshua is Jewish and He spoke against the rabbis who taught man made doctrines and lies instead of what Torah taught. Yeshua was a rabbi and lived and kept Torah - He spoke against the rabbis who were ripping off those who wanted to follow Adonai while He told His followers to obey G-d and keep His commandments.

Since you allude to having read the B'rit Hadashah, then why are you afraid that otherJewish people may read it so they can make up their own mind? Since you claim to have read it and claim it is nothing but lies, then what harm is there for others to read it and decide for themselves? - or do you think they are too stupid to see what you claim to have clearly seen? - or did you see Yeshua is Mashiach and do not want others to follow Him??? It seems you have a hidden agenda to keep people from reading for themselves. IF you read it and were not affected by it, then there is no harm for others to read it and decide for themselves - unless you think they are stupid or you know it is truth and do not want others to see it.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 7, 2008 11:41:43 PM PST
Orvan says:
To Jews reading this, please ignore the last commenter's pathetic missionary efforts.

I'd like to say that two Tanakh translations exist that are preferrable to Artscroll's. Check out the Koren Hebrew-English Edition (not the Catholic version...) and the Mandel's Judaica Press.

For the Torah all by itself, nothing beats the superb Five Books of Moses by Everett Fox. It lacks any sort of agenda, even a Rabbinic one and is utterly faithful to the original Hebrew unlike Artscroll.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 8, 2008 9:05:10 AM PST
Francis says:
"Let There Be Light"

"In The Beginning" The Creator said,

"Let There Be Light, and there was Light"

"Let There Be Light" "

"The Beginning of The Creation of Elohim('god')"
('god' is of greek mythology)

Revealtions 3:14 testifies that The Messiah, was
"The Beginning of The Creationof Elohim(Father
of All)"! And The Messiah testified that His Elohim
and Father(Creator) is The Elohim and Father
(Creator) of His Brethren. (John 20:17)

It is very important to both know and experience
The Messiah as He was, is and always will be,
and also to know the "glory He had with Our Father"
before He was born in "the likeness of sinful flesh".
(John 17:5, Rom 8:3)

First, let me simply state that i believe the "catholic"
and "christian" systems of religious theo'ry'logy
are Anti-Messiah for they either "imag"ine a 'messiah'
who is one-head of a three-headed pagan "god", or
a 'messiah' who is "god", or a 'messiah' who is but
an exalted messenger(angel) or prophet.

It is needful to believe that The Messiah was, is and
always will be "The Son of The Living Elohim", and
that there is but "One True Elohim, HE WHO is Father
of ALL". (Mat 16:16, Eph 4:6)

Once again, The Messiah testified that His Elohim and
His Father(Creator), is also The Elohim(Creator) and
Father(Creator)" of His Brethren. (John 20:17)

"Let There Be Light"

The Messiah simply testified in John 17:5 "And now,
O Father, glorify Me with YOUR own self with the glory
that I had with YOU before the world began".

Prior to that testimony The Messiah testified, "Yet a little
while is The Light with you. Walk while you have The Light,
lest darkness comes upon you: for he that walks in
darkness does not know where he goes. While you have
Light, believe in The Light, that you may be the children
of Light." (John 12:35-36)

And the apostle John testified: "In the beginning was the
Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and The Word
was(not is) Elohim. The same was in the beginning with
Elohim. All things were made by Him; and without Him
was not any thing made that was made. In Him was life;
and the life was The Light of men. And The Light shined
in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
There was a man sent from EL whose name was John.
(note: Elohim can at times be plural, EL is The Only True
Elohim, Father of All) John came for a witness, to bear
witness of The Light, that all men through Him might
believe. He(John the baptist) was not that Light, but was
sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the True Light,
which enlightens every man that comes into the world.
He(The Messiah) was in the world, and the world was
made by Him, and the world knew Him not. He came unto
His own, and His own received Him not. But as many as
received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons
of EL, even to them that believe on His name: Which were
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will
of man, but of "The Only True Elohim"." (John 1:1-13)

And the apostle John testified in John 3:17-21: "For Our
Father sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world; but that the world through Him might be saved. He
that believes on Him is not condemned: but he that believes
not is condemned already, because he has not believed in
the name of the only begotten Son of EL(Our Father). And
this is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their
deeds were evil. For every one that does evil hates The
Light, neither comes to The Light, lest his deeds should be
reproved. But he that does Truth comes to The Light, that
his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in
EL(Our Father)." In John 12:34 the people asked, "Who is
this Son of man? Then in John 12:35-36, "The Messiah said
unto them, yet a little while is The Light with you. Walk while
you have The Light, lest darkness come upon you: for he
that walks in darkness does not know where he goes. While
you have Light, believe in The Light, that you may be the
children of Light. The Messiah spoke these things, and
departed, and hid Himself from them."

Simply, "In The Beginning" The Only True Elohim spoke The
Word, "Let There Be Light", "And there was Light"! "And there
was evening(darkness) and there was morning(Light), The First
Day". (Gen 1:5) Certainly such "Light" was not "natural" light, for
"natural" light, the sun, moon, and stars were not created until
the "fourth day" (Gen 1:14-19)

"In the beginning", "The First Day", The Father of All created
"The Light", without which Creation and Life, as we now know
and experience it, could not have been.

The First Day, "The Light", The Messiah, "The Beginning of
the Creation of EL(HE WHO is The Only True Elohim and
Father of ALL)"! (Gen 1:3, Rev 3:14, John 17:3, Eph 4:6)

And "The Only True Elohim" created all "things" by, through,
and for "The Light", The Messiah, "The Son of The Living
Elohim" and "Son of man". (Col 1:15, Eph 3:9, Mat 16:16,
Mat 12:32)

And "The True Light which enlightens every man coming into
the world", was born as a child destined to be The Messiah.
(John 1:9, Mat 1:21)

The Messiah, "The Light of the world". (John 8:12, 9:5)

The Messiah, "The firstborn of every creature(all creation)". (Col 1:15)

The Messiah,"The firstborn among many brethren". (Rom 8:29)

The Messiah, "The firstborn from among the dead". (Col 1:18)

The Messiah, "A servant of The Only True Elohim". (Isa 42:1-7)

The Messiah, "The Lamb of EL". (John 1:29,36)

Once again: "In The Beginning" Our Father, "The Only True
Elohim" spoke: "Let there be Light, and there was Light"! The
Messiah, "The Beginning of the Creation of Elohim", "the
firstborn of every creature(all creation)". (Gen 1:3, John 17:3,
Rev 3:14, Col 1:15)

All Praise and Glory to Our Father!

The Messiah, Created of "The Only True Elohim, Father of ALL"!
(Rev 3:14)

The Messiah, "made so much better than the angels"! (Heb 1:4)

The Messiah, "The Light of the world"! (John 8:12, 9:5)

Paul experienced "The Light " on the road to Damascus. "And
it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and came near unto
Damascus about noontime, suddenly a great Light from Heaven
shone round about me. And I fell unto the ground, and heard a
voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?
And I answered, "Who are You, Master"? And He said unto me,
I am Yehowshuwa' (Yahshua, Joshua) of Nazareth, Whom you
persecute. And they that were with me saw The Light, and were
afraid; but they did not hear the voice of Him that spoke to me.
And I said, "What shall I do, Master"? And He said unto me,
arise and go into Damascus, and there you shall be told all
things which are appointed for you to do. And when I could not
see for the glory of that Light, I was led by the hand into
Damascus." (Acts 22:6-11)

Paul also testified, "At midday I saw in the way a Light from
Heaven, ABOVE THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE SUN, shining
round about me and those who journeyed with me. And when
we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me,
and saying in the HEBREW tongue, Saul, Saul, why do you
persecute Me? It is hard for you to kick against the pricks." (The
Messiah could not have told Paul, "I am jesus(of pagan greek)"
for He spoke in the "HEBREW tongue") (Acts 26:13-14)

And The Messiah, "The Light of the world", "The Lamb of EL",
is also The Light of The New Heavenly Yerusalem! (Rev 21:22-23)

Sadly, those who "love this world and it's things" yet love darkness
more than The Light and they will abide in the darkness they loved
forever ;-( (1John 2:15, John 3:19-20)

Sadder yet, systems of religion that are of this world, such as
"catholicism", "christianity", "judaism", "islam",.etc., have so
perverted The Testimonies, that today, as in the yesterdays gone
by, "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of" because of their heretical,
theo'ry'logical doctrines ;-( Doctrines that are of men, and especially
those "imag"ined theo'ry'logical doctrines which seek to define The
Only True Elohim, Father(Creator) of All. (2Peter 2:1-2)

All such doctrines are but the product of mankind's "imag"ination
and mankind's "imag"ination is destroying and perverting Creation
(earth, air, water, creatures, Truth, Love, Peace, Joy, Hope, .etc.)

Yes, sadly ;-( Creation is being destroyed by self-willed men who
could care less about that which is of Truth(What Is, Was, and
always Will Be), and care even less about those things which they
can not comprehend apart from their "natural" senses and mental
processes ;-(

And Truth testifies, The Creator "will destroy those who destroy
the earth(HIS Creation)"(Rev 11:18).

Sadly, in this wicked world, those who seek profit will naturally
overcome those who do not ;-(

Yet, There Is Hope!

For Miracles do happen and Faith rejoices against theo'ry'logy(logic)
and profit(greed)!

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is
"receiving a love of The Truth" for they will "see" "The Light".
(2Thes 2:10, John 8:12, 9:5)

And they will receive peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that
is of this wicked world, for they will clearly "see" that "The WHOLE
world is under the control of the evil one". (1John 5:19) And they will
clearly "see" things as they are and not as "imag"inative, world loving,
humans would have others believe them to be, for they will "see" The
Light that is The Messiah....... francisco

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2012 1:33:26 PM PST
Star says:
WOW!

Thank you for your post; especially about ADONAI creating light before he made the sun, moon and stars...

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2012 4:44:25 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 24, 2012 4:46:45 PM PST
Francis says:
Appreciate the encouragement.

Further testimony that i have received can be viewed @ asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com or @ facebook page A Simple and Spiritual Life.

i am hoping that you have realized that you have your portion in The Family of Our Father and GOD, and have "Come Out" of religion's way!

Most don't realize that religion was, and is yet needful for "disobedient and gainsaying(covetous) people" "stiff-necked and uncircumcised of heart and ears" )-; Those who would rather a man than Our Father and GOD speak to and rule over them )-;

If there any religious ways yet within The Life given me, such could be simply stated as:

Father Help! and HE does.......

So HOPE IS!

For TRUTH IS! Miracles do happen.......

Each and every breath we receive is a revelation of The Life Source that is SPIRIT, that IS Our Father and GOD!
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