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Three Orchestral Sets

Ives , Sinclair , Malmo Symphony Orchestra , Malmo Chamber Chrous Audio CD
4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (8 customer reviews)

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listen  5. Orchestral Set No. 2: II. The Rockstrewn Hills Join in the People's Outdoor Meeting 4:58$0.89  Buy MP3 
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  • Performer: Malmo Chamber Chrous
  • Orchestra: Malmo Symphony Orchestra
  • Conductor: Sinclair
  • Composer: Ives
  • Audio CD (May 27, 2008)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Naxos American Classics
  • ASIN: B001716IVQ
  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (8 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #78,860 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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The works on this recording focus on a singular genre created by a singular composer. The kind of piece Charles Ives called a 'et' is usually a larger work made by putting together independently-written smaller pieces. The First Orchestral Set, variously

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5.0 out of 5 stars From Personal Experience June 19, 2008
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I was privileged to hear the first performance in 1993 of the original versions of "St. Gaudens" and "Housatonic." While they may lack some of the added complexities of the revised 1929 version, they are still impressive. I have edited the original 1910 piano solo version of "St. Gaudens" (recorded by Don Berman on the "Unknown Ives No. 2" CD) and this first draft for orchestra (the manuscript of which I have studied) follows it almost exactly. The opening measure and the Coda of the later version of "St. Gaudens" did not in fact exist until 1929, and if this first version had indeed been performed in 1912, it would probably be the only one we would know today. The original draft of "Housatonic" follows the song version very closely, ending on the big B-flat major chord and not the tone-cluster of the later version. I am very happy to finally hear the orignal draft of "Putnam's Camp, as I had the opportunity to study the manuscript of this version back in 1998. Ives was initially unsure about retaining the opening measures found in the later version of "Putnam's Campp" (iniotialy written for the "Country Band March" of 1903) and he eventually decided to omit them i this 1912 draft, ony to reinstate them in 1929.

Regarding the Third Orchestral Set, some have asked me how much of these pieces are by Ives and how much are by myself and Nors Josephson. I began my study of these manuscripts in 1976 when I was working on my MA thesis, and Nors was a member of my committee. The first movement was beguin in 1909 when Ives was planning a fourth movement to his Third Symphony. When he began writing the piece in earnest in 1919, he completed his draft up to the ending section, where he stopped working on the piece for another 7 years.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Editors fail to summon the spirit of Charles Ives June 9, 2008
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It is time to stop picking over Charles Ives's bones in hopes of putting together yet one more realization. At his death, Ives left sketches for a Third Orchestral Set, and on this disk, James Sinclair and the Malmo Symphony present the premiere performance of the work, which was edited, realized or completed -- pick your process -- by David Gray Porter and NÝrs Josephson. The result occupies a considerably lower stratum in the Ives canon than the first two orchestral sets, which are also recorded here. In the booklet, Ives biographer Jan Swafford calls the third movement an "uncanny" example of Ives' late "sublime style," the pinnacle of which is the finale of the Fourth Symphony. It doesn't come close. It lacks the three-dimensionality and the sense of space Ives most likely would have added had he summoned the energy to complete it.
Whereas his mature, completed orchestral music proceeds on several levels, this piece, titled simply "Andante," sounds two-dimensional, as if Josephson had laid the sketches out end to end, expanding them in time but not in space. The first two movements feel like rehashes of earlier pieces. One hears echoes of "Thanksgiving" and "The Robert Browning Overture" but without the grandeur, drive or urgency of those works. At 28 minutes, the Third Orchestral Set is almost as long as its two predecessors combined, yet only half as full.
The good news is that Sinclair's readings of the first two orchestral sets on this CD are very fine indeed.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Charles Ives's two and one-half orchestral sets June 25, 2008
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James Sinclair, the music director of the Orchestra New England and an authority on the music of Charles Ives, is in the midst of recording all Ives's orchestral music for the budget-priced Naxos label. In this CD, his most recent release, Sinclair conducts the Malmo Symphony Orchestra, Sweden, in Ives's three orchestral sets. The Malmo Chamber Chorus participates as well in the final movement of the second set. The Malmo Symphony was unknown to me, and it plays with beauty, polish, and an Ivesian spirit on this recording.

The sets are late works of Charles Ives in which he attempted to break down traditional musical forms and compose in a distinctly personal and American idiom. The music is programmatic in character with Ives giving each movement an evocative and musically appropriate title. Ives completed the first two orchestral sets, and they are masterful.

Ives left only sketches for the third orchestral set. It has been reconstructed by two Ives scholars and appears on recording here for the first time. The two prior Amazon reviewers, including one of the editors of the piece, have offered detailed views on the merits of the reconstruction. In general, I am uncomfortable with reconstructions of works that the composer, for whatever reason, failed to complete. I remain so after hearing this reconstructed Ives's third set. Regardless of how much of this work is Ives's own and how much is the editors, the piece is long and diffuse. It does not work well as music. Most listeners, especially those new to Ives, will not have their feelings for his music enhanced by the third orchestral set. Those listeners wanting to hear Ives at his best should turn to the first two orchestral sets and leave this reconstructed third set to specialists.
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