35 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A review from someone who actually bought a P105 (finally)., April 25, 2006
This review is from: Toshiba Satelllite P105-S921 17" Laptop (Intel Core Duo Processor T2400 (Centrino), 1024 MB RAM, 160 GB Hard Drive, DVD SuperMulti Drive) (Personal Computers)
Well if you got tired of reading peoples opinions about something THEY DO NOT EVEN OWN (ahem), good news for you is that this review is done after purchasing this laptop from Amazon.
It shipped out pretty quickly, but due to a screw up in the rebate process, the Amazon rebate was a painful event. Eventually, after going through two BAD customer service personel at Amazon (one who didn't feel like helping me, and one who accidentally hung up on me), I finally reached intelligent life over there and got it sorted out. Anyways, what follows is my review from notebookforums.com (great place to get more info...)
Toshiba Satellite P105-S921 Review
Introduction:
OK, as you probably know, the big deal here is the new Toshiba is A) The first true gaming laptop from Toshiba and B) The first laptop to be fitted with Nvidia's new Geforce 7900GS.
System Specifications:
The P105-S921 is driven by an Intel Centrino Duo (Dual Core) 1.8G CPU. , x512MB 667MHz ram, a 160GB 4200RPM Fujitsu (strange in that Toshiba makes drives of its own as well...)
The monitor is a 17" glossy , and the videocard is the 7900GS. Some new Toshiba features, such as a dual mode touchpad which you can use to launch programs as well as drive the mouse, and a fingerprint ID scanner to login to the machine with, also exist. The ID scanner is pretty cool, letting you scan in up to 20 different fingerprints, allowing mulitple fingerprint users. For more info on specs go visit Toshiba's website on the specs, as I don't see the purpose of me regurgitating specs here.
Chassis Design and Build Quality:
The design quality is acceptable, and while there are a few minor complains I have, they are mostly small annoyances. For one, the ridiculous hotkey buttons built into the laptop, and two, the LED lights which illuminate the Harmon Kardon speaker clusters... They are a little distracting, and might get me some looks at wrok... and I think about the 2 minutes of power they rob from my battery life. But that's just me. The good news is that, for 17" game capable laptop, this is a light machine, weighing in at about 7 lbs. It's also relatively thin, too. This is about as portable as 17" gets.
Screen... There is an average amount of flex to the screen, and the point between the screen hinges (where the TOSHIBA logo resides) is particularly cheesy... Pushing on the Toshiba logo will cause the screen and the frame to bend a bit. That area should have been more reinforced than it is.
Keyboard... is OK. It feels a little different to me than other laptops I have used, but works well, just makes clicky-clacky sounds. Another guy I work with said he liked it, so go figure. He owns a mac laptop anyways. YMMV. There is a bit of flex in it, but nothing too bad. It is also not fully sized... the LETTERS are sized right but some keys, like quotes and other specials chars, are 2/3rd sized instead. Personally don't dig this and whish they would have just put in a full sized keyboard - it looks like they had room to do it if they were inclined to. It does have a numpad though, which is full sized.
Sound... is amazing. As Fujitsu have mastered LCD screen and Dell has mastered 1 day coupon deals, Toshiba has taken audio to a new level with these speakers. I'm not afraid to say that I have what you'd call a golden ear, after countless bands and years of playing and composing... and the fidelity of what comes out of this laptop with regards to sound is far and away, the best I have ever heard on stock speakers.
Performance:
In order to gauge system performance, I loaded 3dMark05 and 06. Stock drivers, no tweaks, and this is what you get:
3DMark2005: 6202
3DMark2006: 3766
While that isn't as high as the 7800 GTX's I have a feeling that if one wanted to overclock this card, they could easily... The laptop does not get very hot at all, even under gaming conditions. There is a fan that will turn on ocassionally, with venting to the rear left side of the laptop. And then there is the 90nm construction of the 7900.. which makes it more overclockable than say, a 110nm 7800.
HDD:
RANDACC: 19.9ms
AVG READ: 25.9 MB/S
Battery Life:
Battery life seems very good, around 2.5 hours initially.
Conclusion:
This laptop meets my expectations. My other (cheaper) option was the MSI-1039 but I finally decided the screen and the videocard advantages of this model compelled me to take the plunge. As a technology consultant, and a gamer (sometimes) and someone who was looking to replace their desktop... it achieves what is required. For someone trying to meet all three goals (Work, Play, Home) this is good stuff, and not too badly priced either. For people who want a business laptop, there are cheaper, lighter solutions. For gaming only, a hot running, power sucking 7800GTX in a thick brick of a laptop is the way to go. And for those who want truest of DTR's, you would want a slightly larger keyboard. Thus, a good compromise of all three would result in something called the Toshiba Satellite P105-S921.
Pros:
Very portable (for 17") and thin.
Very strong GPU Performance
Runs very cool
Harman/Kardon speaker system (WOW!)
Light relative to features
Fingerprint ID system
Price-Performance ratio very good (1850.00 OTD via Amazon.com)
Looks sleek.
Cons:
LCD screen resolution (YMMV, personally I like this resolution, but it isn't as high as some others)
Drive speed is only 4200 RPM, and considering the speed benefits of 7200RPM, what were they thinking, exactly?
Good, but not great, color warmth from screen.
Flexy Screen
Laptop finish around keyboard is sprayed on silver, this will wear away showing the grey/black finish beneath eventually.
Average Build Quality (Fujitsu is better, HP is better. This reminds me of Dell.)
NO "clean" XP CD. (Toshiba will NOT send you an XP CD WITHOUT AOL crap, Yahoo Crap, and alllll kinds of other Crap, preloaded for your disenjoyment.) They even train the technicians to believe that no such XP CD's exist at Toshiba without these programs! Maybe that makes sense if you're not a computer engineer. If you are, it sounds plain ignorant. I had to spend several hours cleaning the registry.
But overall, I'm really happy with it, works great for looking at code or spreadsheets or databases, and plays games like FEAR well also. Funny to think it will be obsolete in just a couple years! ;)
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23 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Great price, but Toshiba isn't perfect, April 19, 2006
This review is from: Toshiba Satelllite P105-S921 17" Laptop (Intel Core Duo Processor T2400 (Centrino), 1024 MB RAM, 160 GB Hard Drive, DVD SuperMulti Drive) (Personal Computers)
I have a P25-S607 and I can tell you that Toshiba laptops are generally built well aside from one major component, the hard drive. They tend to last around 1.5-2 years. If you search forums for P series discussions, you will find this happens to most owners of these laptops. However, the hard drive is not difficult to replace. In 1.5-2 years, you will be able to purchase a bigger/faster hard drive and easily install it. A word of advice on HD installation; be careful with the HD pin cover. It is not difficult to install, but you have to make sure it is lined up properly or you can easily damage it. Another problem area with Toshibas is an occasionally crappy optical drive. However, you will probably end up replacing this drive in a few years anyway with a blue ray or HD-DVD drive when the prices go down. They are also not difficult to replace, but require a little more time with a screwdriver in order to replace.
The core duo processor is very fast for its clock speed, so do not let the low frequency (1.83 GHz) fool you. The performance of this processor is roughly equivalent to the Athlon X2 3800+ in most areas, but not in gaming. AMD still owns the gaming segment until the launch of Conroe. However, this processor is a much better processor than anything with netburst architecture. It may fall short of a 3.73 GHz Pentium D EE in performance but it uses a tiny fraction of the power of that Pentium D and produces far less heat. Personally, I think the 2.0 GHz Core Duo would have been more appropriate for this computer, but the 1.83 is still no slouch.
The Geforce 7900 is an excellent graphics card that will allow you to play anything out there, albeit not on the absolute highest settings. A desktop SLI rig is obviously going to be much more powerful than a single GPU laptop. This GPU is also not upgradeable, which gives many people reservations about a gaming laptop. Alienware laptops have upgradeable GPUs, but are insanely expensive. Plus, you simply cannot overclock the processor on any mainstream computer, including this one. However, you can overclock the GPU with Rivatuner or whatever software you prefer, but watch out, overclocked laptop GPUs tend to overheat.
The weight and sheer bulk of a 17" laptop make them mobile only when compared to a desktop. This is not for a road warrior. However, moving this computer from room to room will be much easier than trying to move a desktop around. Personally, I move mine all over the house but rarely take it out of the house.
This computer is windows Vista ready with one caveat; most experts agree that 2 gigs of RAM will be necessary to fully enjoy Vista. Two gigs of RAM also improve game play, so it will probably be the fist upgrade made by most gamers that purchase it. RAM is not difficult to swap in these laptops, it is as simple as removing a plate and unsnapping it, then snapping in the new ram and screwing the plate back on.
Overall, if you know what you are doing, have around $2,000 to spend on a laptop, and actually want a gaming laptop, go ahead and buy this one. You won't find a better gaming laptop for the price.
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