Trading for a Living (Wiley Audio) [Abridged, Audiobook] [Audio CD]

Alexander Elder (Author), Richard Davidson (Narrator)

Book Description

Publication Date: April 2000 | Series: Wiley Audio

Three compact disks -- approximate running time: 180 minutes. Helps to discipline your Mind, shows you the Methods for trading the markets, and shows you how to manage Money in your trading accounts. Will help you to master: individual psychology; mass psychology; classical charting; neglected essentials; psychology indicators; trading systems; risk management.

Editorial Reviews

From Library Journal

Soviet-born author and practicing psychiatrist Elder (director, Financial Trading Seminars, Inc.) shares his learning over the years as a professional trader and expert in technical analysis and his principle of understanding the three Ms (Mind, Method, Money), which will strengthen the discipline required to be successful in trading. He explores crucial factors in the markets that most experts overlook, including time, volume, and open interest, and describes little-known indicators to track them profitably. In addition, he covers many of the more technical approaches to investing in futures, such as factoring in the meaning from the Elliott Wave, oscillators, moving averages, Market Logic, and point-and-figure charting. His unique viewpoints in this overly saturated genre explain his particular view that most traders sabotage themselves, while offering tips for others to avoid doing the same. The narration by Richard Davidson soundly guides the listener through this highly specialized work that, although first published seven years ago, remains recommended for university libraries supporting a finance and business curriculum.DDale Farris, Groves, TX
Copyright 2001 Reed Business Information, Inc.

From the Publisher

An eminent futures trader explores crucial factors in the markets that most experts overlook--time, volume and open interest--and describes little-known indicators to profitably track them. Covers all the popular technical approaches to futures, options and stock markets including Elliott Wave, oscillators, moving averages, Market Logic, point-and-figure charting. Explains why most traders sabotage themselves and how to avoid doing the same. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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Product Details

• Audio CD
• Publisher: Penton Overseas; Abridged edition (April 2000)
• Language: English
• ISBN-10: 1560159553
• ISBN-13: 978-1560159551
• Product Dimensions: 7.5 x 5.3 x 1.2 inches
• Shipping Weight: 7.2 ounces
• Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (228 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #935,705 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

More About the Author

Alexander Elder, M.D., is a professional trader, based in New York. He is the author of several best-selling books: Trading for a Living, Come into My Trading Room, Entries & Exits, and Sell and Sell Short (all with Study Guides). He also wrote Straying from the Flock: Travels in New Zealand. Dr. Elder taught psychiatry at Columbia University. His experience provides him with unique insight into psychology of trading.

Dr. Elder is a sought-after speaker at conferences and the originator of Traders' Camps - week-long classes for traders. He is the founder and co-director of SpikeTrade - a trading website.

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123 of 131 people found the following review helpful:

2.0 out of 5 stars For Beginners Only, January 13, 2003

By A Customer

This review is from: Trading for a Living: Psychology, Trading Tactics, Money Management (Hardcover)

Elder begins with a chapter on psychology. Mind as he refers to it. In my experience, success in trading has less to do with understanding "the madness of crowds" and more to do with developing discipline. Read Mark Douglas instead.

Next, Elder spends a lot of pages giving the reader a rundown of the most common price patterns and technical indicators. Which is fine if you don't know them, but has all but the most neophyte readers skipping over great gobs of the book.

Next, Elder trots out his two pet indicators and tells you about them. I have used them and they're about as good as any others that you probably already know about and have already used. In other words, I wouldn't buy the book just to get a peek at them.

Lastly, he goes into money management. Elder has said himself that he wishes he had devoted more time to this section. Once again, unless you are a complete beginner, you won't find much meat here either.

Elder likes trading off moving averages and looking for divergences in certain indicators. Well, I have been trading a fair number of years and am here to tell you, you can do better than that. Much better.

If you're a beginner, try reading Nison and DiNapoli/Boroden. Their material is far more effective and will have a much greater impact on your bottom line.

227 of 247 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars If you are halfway from an amateur to a pro, it's for you, April 6, 2003

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ServantofGod - See all my reviews

This review is from: Trading for a Living: Psychology, Trading Tactics, Money Management (Hardcover)

If somebody bought, read and judged the book by whether it could really help him or her to go "trading for a living", that somebody would definitely be disappointed. Even the author himself pointed out that the success rate for the conversion of ex institutional traders to independent traders was very low owing to the much higher psychological load of trading one's own money than that of trading OPM.

Despite the over-promise of the book title and the second half of it discussing mostly technical tools, the book is quite well written. There are plenty of bright ideas, some with originality that can be attributed to the author's M.D. and psychiatrist background. In particular I like the following points much:-

- That trading is a minus sum game (considering commission and slippage) and the mass media or gurus or prevalent market view are almost always wrong.

- The analogy of the market as an ocean and a huge crowd of people, in either case an individual can have no control of but have to follow (or leave) emotionlessly for long term profit.

- The analogy of Alcoholic Anonymous with Loser Anonymous that requires the same treatment for true recovery, whereas accepting oneself as an alcoholic or a loser is the very first step of healing.

- The need for discipline and patience as individual traders' only weapon to against institutional traders advantages in faster information, better research reports, lower psychological burden for trading OPM, etc

- Price is a psychological event, a momentary balance of opinion between bulls and bears, its pattern reflects the mass psychology of the market.

- Last but not least, the opening prices are determined primarily by amateurs whilst the closing prices are determined by professionals.

In short, the book is well worth the price and I do recommend it to those who study continuously for self improvement in their trading. Remarks:- The author claimed that he personally did so, too.

201 of 221 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars 2ND READING REVIEW * * * * *, January 25, 2000

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Chuck Kelly (Washington State) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Trading for a Living: Psychology, Trading Tactics, Money Management (Hardcover)

I have to say after reading Dr. Elders book for the second time, I am even more impressed with the wealth of knowledge and understanding of what makes the markets move. I prefer the triple screen method that is presented. This book covers all of the basic knowledge for the beginner as well as the experienced trader. If you are new to trading you will find this an excellent source to build your dreams on. I believe study is the key to sucess in any endeavor. This book is easy to read and you will be amazed at the insight you will gain as to the day to day operation of the markets. I think it is important to decide on what method makes the most sense to your trading style and then learn all you can about it. The more knowledge you have the better decisions you make. I find the hardest part being money management. I have to control my urge to follow my gambling impulse to bet the farm on what looks good in the charts. Even though I know it is a sure way to loose in the market. This is a game of the most interesting kind that changes on a moment by moment basis. What a great way to make money. My word of advice on any trade where you have the slightest doubt of why you are in it is to GET OUT IMEDIATLEY ! . If you do not know why you are in a trade and what you expect to happen and why, then you are guessing. If guessing is what you like to do go to Las Vegas and have a great time. Best to you all in trading. If anyone has a real-time quote service they are proud to have please let me know who they are. Thanks