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Train Simulator

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By Robert and Patrick Scoble

Founders of The MSN Microsoft Train Simulator Fan Site ...

We first got a chance to get up close and personal with Microsoft's Train Simulator at the NMRA (the National Model Railroad Association's National Convention and Train Show in San Jose on August 4-6, 2000) and recently we received a press beta of Microsoft's Train Simulator since we run the MSN Train Simulator Fan Site at ... This was the first time that Microsoft had publicly shown Train Simulator (they say it'll ship in "Spring 2001"). "I want a copy," six-year-old train buff Patrick Scoble says, "they need to finish it."

That about sums up both of our responses. We couldn't wait. We're not usually into games or simulators, but we +are+ train nuts. The Train Simulator has us hooked and we suspect it'll have you hooked too. We're finding as we spend time with the simulator that even folks who don't appreciate trains as much as Patrick and I really are having a great time playing with Train Simulator as well.

First off, driving trains around with a simulator might sound boring, but I guarantee you it is not. This is from the same team that brought us Microsoft Flight Simulator.

Train Simulator will include six trains and tracks based on REAL LIVE RAILROADS. The simulation includes entire tracks over the Marias pass in Montana, for instance -- the other tracks are explained on Microsoft's "Features Page."

One of the activities in the simulator lets you drive a BNSF train going through Marias Pass in Montana. (There are nine engines and six different tracks -- all modeled on real world engines and tracks). The Microsoft Train Simulator will let you drive a simulation of the same train on the same tracks. Microsoft has tried to keep everything as accurate as possible. (Obviously simulation technology isn't as good as the "real" thing, but with Train Simulator it is darn close). This means that you could play with Train Simulator for six hours (on just one of the six tracks) and not see the same scenery. Switch to a different track and you get more hours of not-seen-before fun. Not to mention that it makes a great screen saver (you can leave it running on your desktop and the computer will take you on a tour of any one of the six rail lines that the programmers have built). The Simulator also doesn't force you to drive. You can stand at the side of the track. You can fly overhead in a "helicopter" mode. You can sit inside a passenger train and enjoy the view. Or you can sit in the cab and drive with realistic controls. This is a blast! If you were working on the Whitefish line, you'd start your six-hour trip over Marias pass in a Dash-9 in the Whitefish, Montana train yard. In Whitefish's train yard, the simulator would let you move your engine around on any of the 10 tracks, pick up other engines and cars, and hopefully refuel (many of these features were not demonstrated yet). Everything is realistic. Hey, think the simulator would let my wife visit her favorite antique store which is right near the track? I don't think so, but maybe that's something that we can build on later since Microsoft will give us the ability to add on new buildings and things to Train Simulator. The tools to build new things are quite nice, and already you can trade things with other Train Simulator users. This thing feels and sounds real. Particularly if you have a good 3D video card and a speaker system with a subwoofer. Here's a rundown of some of the features.

VIEWING: You can view the train from outside at any angle. You can "fly" around the train -- at any time (you have complete control of the camera angle and can zoom closer or back off for a wider angle view).

You can sit inside the cab and "drive." All the controls are authentic and you'll have full displays -- the same ones the real trains have.

You can stick your head outside the window and see the view (and you have complete control of the view. Forward, back, tilt, all just like if you were on a real train). This alone is unbelievable technology.

If you are carrying passenger coaches you can sit in back like a passenger. There will be other passengers to watch, supposedly (the "pre-Alpha" was empty). You can just sit there and watch the scenery go by, just like a real passenger.

You can switch to a mode that represents someone standing on the track and watching the train go by. I wonder, can you take a picture of your train?

Oh, did we mention the sound? The sound is VERY good and accurate. The product manager tells us that they actually went on location and did extensive recordings of the sound of each train. The sound changes depending on your perspective, too. If you are inside the cab, it sounds like that. If you are standing by on the side of the track, it sounds just like that too (although we didn't get hit by any flying stones like we did one time when we were trackside). The track noise is realistic and will change based on sections that have concrete ties with welded rails -- trains running on older track will have the familiar clickety clack.

You can switch trains and run them on any of the six tracks (I don't know that I'd want to take the 100+MPH Acela over Marias Pass, but I'm sure I'll try it just for fun).

In helicopter mode you can view each car one-by-one. You can tilt, pan, and elevate the camera position. You can fly over the train. Around the train. Through the train (almost).

The sound is awesome -- it better be, they digitally recorded real trains on location. Blow that whistle. (it's the space bar).

This simulator has one of the best uses of 3D technology I've seen so far. It's well worth the money and if you're into trains it'll blow your mind.

Kuju entertainment developed this game for Microsoft, and it lives up to its name. You can explore six different historical railroads, including Amtrak's Northeast Corridor, Burlington Northern's Marias Pass route, and a section of the Orient Express in Austria. Two Japanese lines and the Flying Scottsman are also available. The graphics are beautiful and the sounds are faithfully reproduced. Microphones were mounted on various areas of each engine to capture the sounds of accelerating, braking, etc. The steam trains thunder and wheeze, the diesels hum, and the electrics quietly click along. The scenery includes trees, bridges, roads, moving automobiles, and tall mountains that actually look appropriately scaled -- a rare feat with today's computer games.

However, make sure you have a mid-range system or better if you want to be able to run this game. Slower PCs, such as those of 500Mhz or under, will probably not be able to display high levels of detail without slowing the system to unacceptable levels. Also, be sure you have a capable video card. If you don't have enough system or video horsepower, you should upgrade your system before installing. Also, the full install requires 1.8 gigabytes of hard drive space -- not exactly a small footprint.

Driving a train for the first time is thrilling. The game lets you look at the trains from an almost infinite number of angles, and they certainly look good! Learning to brake was also quite a challenge. Trying to stop a 30-car train on a steep grade in the rain gave me new respect for what engineers do on a daily basis.

However, after playing the game for two weeks, I must relunctantly conclude that this game is only for hardcore train fans. Once I had mastered braking and could get to stations on time, the game quickly ceased to be interesting. I'm just not interested by backing my train into a siding at 5 MPH to pick up some grain cars. I don't think it's fun to have to drive a train at 12 MPH in a reduced-speed zone for 10 minutes of real time. While this game faithfully simulates real-life railroading conditions, I'm afraid that this doesn't translate to gaming excitement.

I'm not knocking railroad fans, and I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy learning how to drive trains. But despite the excellent technological achievements showcased by this game, unless you are a die-hard train fan, I'd advise against buying this product. It simply doesn't provide enough entertainment for your money, especially since the replay value appears limited. There IS an editor included with the game, but at this writing it seems buggy and is not particularly easy to use. Perhaps that will change in the future. Additional user-made maps and scenarios would definitely help to make this game a better value.

I received my copy yesterday and initially had some trouble getting it to work on my PIII 533. I highly recommend you spend some time online and download all the latest drivers for your video and audio systems before you install Microsoft Train Simulator. Folks with the latest drivers seem to have the least install trouble with this.

Be sure to check the Readme file on the CD-ROM... there is a long list of issues, most of which can be cured by downloading new drivers.

There is virtually no printed material included with this software, and the online help and operators manual only contain very general information. You will just have to tinker with this software for a few hours and figure some things out. If you have no knowledge of the controls on a railroad locomotive, the game has tutorials which will walk you through the basics.

One thing the online docs have which is nice... descriptions and illustrations of the mechanical workings of the various locomotives, and the braking systems.

I'm assuming the strategy guide will contain much more detailed information about actually playing the game.

The software allows you much control over the graphics and sound settings, so you can customize the gameplay to suit the capability of your system.

While you certainly have the option of just blasting down the mainline with a stack train or the Acela Express, don't think that's all there is to this game. The real fun (and the challenege) comes in the Switching Activities, and Roadswitcher Freights which assemble trains from mixed up strings of cars in the yard, or deliver cars to nearby industries.

This software also comes with the tools to create your own switching or mainline scenarios and trade them over the internet, and also allows you to create new landscapes and routes. For this reason, you can expect many more routes and activities to be available in the future.

Also the sound quality is very good, especially if you have a subwoofer.

I make my living riding freight trains around, and it's cool to see Microsoft come out with a whole game about my job! This software is by far the best and most realistic thing out there simulating the operation of a freight train.

This is the best, by far, simulation of train operations. I am a RR professional, and have to say, the realism here is incredibly solid along with great sound and graphics. I hope this program will bring on generations of add-ons like FS2000. If you don't appreciate Railroading, you will still be amazed at the detail and replay value of this program.

I am an avid fan of Microsoft's Flight Simulator. While playing the game, I often wished that the ground was more detailed and realistic. Train Simulator delivers this wish. Previous reviews at Amazaon indicated that some found it boring.. Not even! Sure, if you want Quake 3, but if your looking to explore a whole new world that is absolutely real.. get this game immediately. I do love trains, but I truly believe that anyone.. white or blue collar will enjoy the majestic beauty of the rockies, drving a commuter train (just like the el or a subway) through the heart of the outskirts of Tokyo at sunset, and powering a classic steam engine through Europe.

This game is outrageous! Cruising though the rockies in the forest along a beautiful river and suddenly your going over a bridge and 300 feet of canyon beneath you.

The tutorials are excellent, and the game let's you drive each train along each route without having to deal with a timeline just so you get used to everything. Once you've done that, the challege is on you to maintain schedules, switch tracks to pick up cargo.. you name it.

It's pretty cool to learn all of those weird train signs and be able to respond to them. 'W' means whistle... it's great to see that, blow that huge whistle and go through a street with cars waiting on both sides. Okay... I'm easily amused, but talk about fun. It's not in your face action.. but kick back, pop open a beer and enter a whole new world.

All aboard!

Since discovering that MS was coming out with a train sim, I have been awaiting this program with anticipation. I got my copy a few days after it was first released and thought my findings might be of help to those who are interested.

First of all, this program takes a LOT of room on you hard drive! 1.8 GB for a full install. Of course, you can get around this huge footprint by only installing the routes (track scenarios) that you are interested in exploring. If you load 2 routes and the program (like I did), you end up using about 1 GB of space. Im not a train junkie, so I found good tutorials on operating all the different engines available (steam, diesel & electric) and very handy. Basically, once you know how get these huge monsters going, you can take off and explore or work on completing various preset scenarios.

The graphics are quite nice and detailed, as long as you have a lower-mid level system as a MIMIMUM. I have such a system in a 300 MZ P2, Voodoo3 card and 128 MB RAM. Even so, I get frame rates in the 15-30 frames range on a upper-medium setting. This setting gets you fairly dense, detailed environments to explore.

After using this program over several days, I have explored countless miles of tracks and scenery. It all is very good to watch and experience. The train sounds and even the whistle are perfect (the whistle even has a doppler effect!). You can really get nice views from practically anywhere and working on the scenarios is entertaining. But I still haven't quite figured out my reaction to this product. I'm basically a sim-enthusiast and enjoy the freedom of doing whatver I want in this genre of programs. I enjoy the learning involved in operating these type of programs and as a graphics guy, I like superb graphics. In these respects, I'm very pleased with this program. There is just something about zipping down the track that well...gets a little mundane (to me) eventually. I mean, this a GREAT program. It looks, runs and sounds truly FANTASTIC, but a more hardcore train enthusiast than me would really appreciate and get the most value out of this product.

If I were you, I'd still buy this program. Be aware that depending on your train-mindset, it's replay value might decrease with time.

Train Simulator is NOT just about starting and stopping a train. OK, it can be if you want it to be. It can be an interactive screen saver, if you really want. But just as a real engineer doesn't get to relax for a single second while on the job, neither does the player of MSTS who really delves into the goods. Operating the trains included in MSTS can range from fairly straightforward (the modern electric locomotives) to downright difficult (the incredibly complicated steam locomotives, especially if you choose to handle the firing duties as well!).

While some people have complained that there isn't anything "interesting" to do, the meat of the game shows when you have to combine the task of operating the locomotive with goal-oriented activities. Safely navigating a 50-car freight train---and its cargo---over the showcase route of the sim, the Marias Pass line through the Rocky Mountains in Montana, not only will be a feast for your eyes, but has got to be one of the most challenging tasks of any simulation, ever. On the whole, the included activites are well-varied and quite time-consuming; I promise this game does NOT bore easily.

Beyond this, Train Simulator's greatest strength is probably its open architecture. Once you've exhausted the game's initial offerings, you can create your own routes, activities, and even trains (granted, you'd need 3D modeling software for this last task), and there's already a sizable Internet community for sharing these add-ons. While the included utilities aren't supported by Microsoft, with a little aid from the online help system I was able to create some quite enjoyable activities on my own.

MSTS is quite graphics-intensive, but on my P-II 333, 128 MB RAM with a Voodoo3 16MB graphics card, I can get frame rates between 10 and 20 with the detail settings averaging half-on. Not bad.

Certainly, if you enjoy trains, this is a must-have. But if you're on the fence, questioning the re-playability of a "sightseeing" game, I urge you to try it out and see that the game's depth takes it well beyond mere eye-candy.

...and have a decent computer, I don't think getting MSTS is an option - it's a must. The main reason being that no other train program currently on the market comes even close.

In fact, with nothing really to compare it to, objectively reviewing the product is a bit difficult. Suffice to say, the game lives up to and surpasses all the screenshots and movies you might find on Microsoft's webiste. The environments are detailed and beautiful to behold with pleasant ambient sounds to complete the experience. Birds tweet in the forests, crickets chirp in the grass, and polka tunes play in the Alpine houses.

The game can be played from the easy relaxed postion of a passenger or as the highly demanding job of an engineer/fireman of a steam train, pulling delicate coaches up and down winding mountain passes with a tight schedule to keep. Many different tasks are available to choose from or you may use the editor to make your own activities. The sim also allows you to freely explore any line for as long as you wish, with plenty of different internal and external views to gaze at the scenery from.

As with FS2000, I expect the freeware, shareware, and payware communities that are sprouting up to enhance the game considerably. Several repaints of engines and boxcars are already available for free on some sites. MSTS includes tools to create routes, as well, and I hope to see an add-on Tehachapi route in the not-too-distant future.

Performance seems to be pretty good on most machines. MSTS runs well with highest detail on my Athlon 950, 512mb pc133, geforce2 ultra 64mb, soundblaster xgamer. I've also tried the game on my AMD K6-2 500, 128mb, vodoo 3 and was pleasantly surprised by the results. No glitches for me so far. (Knock on wood.)

No, however, the game is not perfect. I've seen several posts in various forums of folks having troubles with Turtle Beach sound cards and other issues. I belive the game demands that your dx drivers are all up-to-date. As mentioned earlier, the manual is on disk and not very explanatory on some critical issues, including the editors. To date, I'm still battling with the activity editor. Several bugs in the program have also been noted, such as excessive brake penalties and car durability issues on some routes. Some gates have been seen not operating and the AI trains may leave something to be desired.

BUT, regardless of any complaints, the game is a long-awaited masterpiece for train-lovers. I, myself, have no right to complain about any bugs or shortcomings, because I was one of the restless, impatient masses who anxiously awaited this game. We all begged and pleaded for Microsoft and Kuju to release MSTS as soon as possible, so if the game is a bit buggy, we might be to blame. No matter. I have my copy, and it has held me spellbound since I bought it. My hat's off to Kuju and Microsoft.

If you like/love/admire/enjoy trains, get it asap. If you don't, why are you reading this?

If your a train lover you will probally like it alot! IT allows you to be right up with the controls of many locomotives, it has superb graphics and great sound. If you are looking for realism this is the game for you. The sounds of the trains are exact and there is doppler effect. For those who don't know how to drive a train there is tutorials that teach you how to operate steam, electric and diesel locomotives. If you don't feel like driving you can take a train ride and be the passenger. The scenery is fantastic it looks just like it would in real life. The passenger trains are very fun to drive, beacause you on a tight shcedule and there are many hazards along the way such as animals on the track, wheather, damaged track, broken signals and more. It also provides the challenge of freight trains. Also there are hundreds of downloads and add-ons for it! So if you like trains and realism I highly recomend this game.

I bought Train Simulator last weekend and I installed the Marias Pass Train Route through Montana. You do not, and I'm going to repeat this, you do not have to install the whole simulation like other reviewers have said. That means your not going to use up 1.8 GB on your hard drive in your computer but only a fraction of that. Their different train routes in the game and you only need to install one train route at a time to make the game work. Now I've got just a IBM 475, 64 MB RAM, computer with a 8 MB ATI PRO video card and the simulation worked just fine for me. The scenery and mountains through Montana are beautiful and breath taking. It's really neat to see animals like cattle and even deer next to the tracks. When I saw some deer next to the railroad tracks, I blew my train whistle and the deer actually jumped away and bounced off into some nearby trees. You come to railroad crossings and you hear the sounds of the bells and whistles at the railroad crossings and see the crossing gates come down to stop traffic. You actually see vehicles traveling down roads stop for trains at the railroad crossings just like you do in real life. There are only two things missing from Train Simulation which is people (It would been so cool to see railroad workers working the switches in the railroad yards and flagging trains through the yards.) and 1800's and early 1900's American train engines and railroad cars. I know over time these things will be added because of the editor included with the game and upcoming patches and add-ons expansion sets that will come in the future. If you ever wondered what it was like to be a train engineer driving a train, go out and buy Train Simulation and you'll feel like your almost doing the real thing.