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Triggernometry

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Onyx has fallen off bigtime since Shut Em Down. They dont have the same street credibility anymore since back in 93.
The beats on Sticky's Decade, Bacdafucup II and now Triggernometry are simply too commercial, too soft and lack the trademark grimeyness in every way + Iceman is a joke on the mic. Do yourself a favor and get the first three and Sticky's Black Trash, dont bother buying this one cause if you like the real ONYX youll be disappointed big time.

Why?

That single thought pervades the prospective buyer when confronted with a new album from Onyx. A new album from a group who released one classic album ("Bacdafucup") in the 90's, rode out half the decade with albums slightly better than mediocre, and was eventually disbanded so Sticky Fingaz could go solo; only to be reunited in 2002 for an utterly unworthy sequel to their stellar debut entitled "Bacdafucup Part II." At that point, it would have been fair to write Onyx as a group off for good. Even the otherwise stellar Fingaz seemed to have suffered from this debacle, as his "Decade" solo album this year was considerably less than what rap fans have come to expect from Kirk Jones.

Something funny is going on though, and when something funny is going on in rap it usually means D3 Entertainment is involved. This is the same label that released an Ol' Dirty Bastard album with only three original songs on it, and even tried to claim he was signed to a record deal. Then again almost anything they do is suspect. A "new" Juvenile album was really just a re-release of a DJ Jimi mixtape featuring his first local hits in New Orleans before he got large. Their "Mack 10 Presents Da Hood" album presented only mediocrity, and "El Cool Magnifico" made no noise for Coolio, a rapper who has already been reduced to guest appearances on Hollywood Squares and certainly doesn't need more humilation than that.

Somehow though (and this is what I mean by "funny") D3 has managed to trap all of the members of Onyx in it's spider web. The aforementioned Sticky Fingaz album "Decade" is on D3, as well as Fredro Starr's almost simultaneously released second solo album "Don't Get Mad Get Money." If that wasn't overkill enough for the few Onyx fans that are left, now the label is putting out a new Onyx album. That brings us all the way back to where we started. Why? Why are they all signed to D3? Why are so many Onyx-related albums being released so quickly? And why does the sticker on the CD's shrinkwrap scream desperation? To fill you in, it reads: "The new album from Onyx featuring Sticky Fingaz, star of 'Platinum' and the hit single 'Can't Call It." In the immortal words of Onyx themselves, bacdaFUCup. "Platinum" may be a minor success on television, but the rapper has certainly done bigger and better things acting in movies like "Ride" "Player's Court", And "Next Friday." If he even has a career in Hollywood, "Platinum" is definitely not the be-all end-all of it - it's just the most current. And to say "Can't Call It" is a hit single is an exaggeration of the truth, just like the song's claim to "feature" Missy Elliott was in itself (she doesn't rap or sing, and only seems to have been sampled and looped in for the chorus). B-b-b-but wait it gets worse! The sticker goes on to say "AND Fredro Starr, starring in Ice Cube's new film 'Torque' and the hit single 'California Girls'." Okay, great. You've pimped those connections to the maximum D3, and I guess you're allowed because they're signed to your label, but nobody has seen "Torque" and again saying "hit single" stretches the truth greatly.

If things weren't already knee deep by this point, the album's first full song "Gun Clap Music" will bury you in it up to your nose just to make SURE you can smell it. Fredro Starr should be pimp-slapped for his shameless re-interpretation of Biggie Smalls, which is not in any way shape or form flattering:

"Who shot ya? It's too late to try to op-e-rate
Hard escape through New York State
It's on killa, f*** all the niggaz that hate
I can feel ya shook when ya walk through the gate
Your heartbeat break like a Kay Slay tape
Bust, guns to this, raisin the crime rate
N***** better blast when it's time to shoot
N***** on the roof tryin to blast at you"

Take this reviewer's word for it - it doesn't burn baby burn like Disco Inferno. Not even close. And here's another funny thing about the album - even though the back cover lists 21 tracks, the only skits that are marked are the "Intro" and the "Outro." I expected something dope from Sticky Fingaz on "Stick Up" but it's just talk. So is "Def Scams," track 5. Here's a breakdown of all the cuts that appear to be songs that aren't: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17 and 19. It's actually that sad - the non-songs can be passed over if you skip the odds to the evens. That means out of the previously established 21, only ten are actual songs. D3's being "funny" again. You won't laugh at hearing a sequel to "Da Nex Niguz" though, especially when it re-uses Sonee Seeza's intro from the original. Sticky is the only +real+ funny thing on this album, and he does get ill here even though Kronic Tones gives him no beat to work with:

"Keep it real b******, y'all more nasty than men
How many of y'all, take it in the a** like Kim
Or had a menage, with some n****, you and your friend
But ain't nuttin wrong with that, I even screw in the Benz
Matter fact, two chicks give me a harder erection
7 out of 10 b****** go the other direction
Say she never ate p**** and she not no lesbian
But for Janet Jackson, she'd make an exception
Picture this - b**** had one hand on my bone
Other hand on the phone with her man at home
Sayin I LOVE YOU, while she kissin my d***
I'LL BE HOME SOON - knowin I don't cum that quick"

Still and all though, Sticky exhibits the same problem he did on "Decade," namely that he sounds tired and unenthused, like he's going through the motions. In fact to call Fredro Starr and Sticky Fingaz together Onyx without any of the other members is a farce itself. Seminal affiliate X-1 shows up on "Look Dog" and "Champions" but neither of these mediocre cuts can even capture half the energy he showed on "React" from the "Shut 'Em Down" album, back when Onyx was still signed to Def Jam. Speaking of which, they refer to it as "Def Scams" in one of the skits, but that's pure hypocrisy at it's finest. The real scam is D3 convincing anybody they're more than a nickel and dime operation trying to look like Jacksons and Franklins. Sticky and Fredro are both individually talented, and at one time played well off each other in a group setting, but both seem equally uninterested in resurrecting the name Onyx and shouldn't have even tried. Then again, since D3 has both signed to deals, they really may not have had a choice or say in it either way. While Bacdafucup Part II" had at least the pretension of honesty despite it's mediocrity, "Triggernometry" is just a bald-faced lie. Even called "Basic Math, 1 + 1 = 2" this pathetic attempt to relive past Onyx glories just wouldn't add up.

Unfortunatly, I cant spell, LOL.
No, unfortunatly, Onyx couldnt make there mind up, if they were going to make a retrospect album, or a new one, and, while I was a fan of songs such as Slam back in 1995, its time, for Sticky and co, to realise that they cant just dwindle on old glories. You want something Grimey, look somewhere else, cause all Onyx have to offer in this outing, is reminders of how they were the ones who 1st shouted bout the hood and that they were the ones throwing there guns in the air, well...great, but next time convince the listener through your music, not, your image, which has long gone past cliche.
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There is only one song on here that I can listen too and that is "mama cryin" Apart from that they did a nice job in filling out the album with an interlude every 2nd song GARBAGE!!
Albums worth buying if you haven't already..
*** All We Got Iz Us ***
AND
*** Sticky Fingaz - Blacktrash ***

Shut them down has one good song and thats Rob & Vic but really not much more than that... These guys had skill but most of there production/instrumental choices overall was not there style. If they stuck too what they do best they would still be strong in the industry today!
Well I think they've now fallen of the face of the planet and well kirk jones is probably still trying to make it in the movie industry.

Anyway don't buy this... I probably wouldn't even waste the time downloading it!!

First off I wanna say that I've been an Onyx fan since I was 6 or 7 years old. Maybe 5, I don't know. I was in love with Bacdafucup as a kid and, as you may have already assumed, I was even more impressed with their next two realeases (All We Got Iz Us and Shut Em' Down). However, Triggernometry boasts a poor selection of 10 awkwardly pop-esque "songs" and cheesy, unintelligent lyrics that prove to be exemplary of Onyx's shift in tone and mentality. The rest of the CD is basically a commentary by the members about things that they did when they were good. Neither of their last two realeases have even come close to echoing the quality of their first three. IT DOESN'T EVEN SOUND LIKE ONYX. Instead of Bacdafucup II or Triggernometry I'd recommend any of their first three albums (most notably Shut Em' Down and All We Got Iz Us) or Immortal Technique's Revolutionary Vol. 2.

Really bad album a little better then bacdafucup 2 dont get this i got it because am probably onyx's greatest fan that's why three stars in stead of one they need to get off d3 entertainment one of the worst recording labels ever and get back with def jam or whoever is running jmj records and come back with one more fire album and then retire legends

5 of 10 lyrics 4 of 10 beats

I have to say that the beats on this CD are seriously lacking but its still ONYX and im not disappointed so much with the lyrics. Still though I have heard Onyx drop nastier verses but once again the rhymes they spit aint bad. I like the interview style history lessons Onyx drops between each song becase im a fan and its interesting but if your not into them so much then you have alot of fast forwarding to do. Im not sure if this was a rushed project or what but there are some things noticably missing like the trademark MADFACE that has been on every album till now. It is nowhere to be seen. And there are no credits or photos or anything else really inside the jacket. Just last year they dropped BACDAFUCUP II which was a reasonable comeback and about 30% of it was hot! But this doesnt really compare to that CD and it definately doesnt compare to any of their classic CDS but still ITS ONYX.... and I dont think die hard fans will give up on the group just because of this one mediocre release. Im still a fan and I will give this CD some play just due to the fact that I like to hear them rhyme ands they are still bacically on point in that area. Its just the beats on this one,....... Lastly id like to say that my man Sonsee never gets the credit he deserves but I think hes a really good MC and really shines at times. He is so overshadowed by the fame of Sticky and Fredro.. PEACE

If you were disappointed with their last album then this makes up for it.

This album should have been titled Bacdafucup pt.II being that the skits reminisce about early 90's when they first came out. Also the track "Da Next Niggas" pt.2 is as tight as the original version.

The only knock on this album is that there's only 10 tracks, but they all bang. The rest are all skits. If you're a die hard you'll enjoy the skits though. Getting to here Sticky unleashed in an interview is as real as it gets and hilarious in grimy sort of way. They talk about knowing Wu-Tang,Biggie,50, and a few others before they got big to being the first group to "Throw their Gunz."

ONYX had more love from fans and everybody was feelin em when they was wit DEFJAM! they had more album sales!! ONYX lyrics and DEF JAMS production music connected perfect. ONYX is girted for puttin it down for the streets and bringin the HARDCORE to
HIP HOP!! ONYX never feel off they just wanted to take control of they own music when they left DEFJAM! this album gives good history lession on what they went to, to be what they are!

OnyX is back with Triggernometry, and I think this is a good album, Fredro, Sticky and Iceman bring hard flows and sound great. The Skits on the album talk about alot of issues like The Wu Tang Clan and Jam Master J and they even address there beef with 50 Cent. My favorite song is Gun Clap Music but there all good, the only downer is that this albums length is only 50 minutes and thats extremely short for having 21 tracks on it but otherwise this is a good effort from The Baldies so go and get it if ur a die hard OnyX fan.