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James R. Beck (Author), Stanley N. Gundry (Series Editor), Linda L. Belleville (Contributor), Craig L. Blomberg (Contributor), Craig S. Keener (Contributor), Thomas R. Schreiner (Contributor)
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Counterpoints: Bible and Theology September 3, 2005
What does the Bible say about women's roles in the church? With pros and cons on either side of a heated, ongoing debate, no definitive conclusions have emerged. This book furnishes you with a clear and thorough presentation of the two primary views on women in ministry so you can better understand each one's strengths, weaknesses, and complexities. Each view---egalitarian (equal ministry opportunity for both genders) and complementarian (ministry roles differentiated by gender)---is represented by two contributors. This revised edition of the book brings the exchange of ideas and perspectives into the traditional Counterpoints format. Each author states his or her case and is then critiqued by the other contributors. The fair-minded, interactive Counterpoints forum allows you to compare and contrast the two different positions, and to form your own opinion concerning the practical and often deeply personal issue of women in ministry. The Counterpoints series provides a forum for comparison and critique of different views on issues important to Christians. Counterpoints books address two categories: Church Life and Bible and Theology. Complete your library with other books in the Counterpoints series.

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What does the Bible say about the role of women in the church? With pros and cons on either side of a heated, ongoing debate, no definitive conclusions have emerged. The purpose of this book is to furnish concerned readers with a clear and thorough presentation of the two primary views on women in the ministry so they can better understand each one’s strengths, weaknesses, and complexities. This revised and strengthened edition presents two essays representing the "egalitarian" and the "complementarian/hierarchical" views of women in ministry. Each contributor offers thoroughly qualified insights based on careful biblical scholarship and personal experience. At the end of each of the four essays, a brief question-and-answer section provides further clarification. The general editor adds a commentary at the conclusion of both the hierarchical and egalitarian sections. Contributors Include: • Linda L. Belleville (Egalitarian View) • Craig L. Blomberg (Complementarian View) • Craig S. Keener (Egalitarian View) • Thomas R. Schreiner (Complementarian View)

About the Author

Stanley N. Gundry is executive vice president and editor-in-chief for the Zondervan Corporation. He has been an influential figure in the Evangelical Theological Society, serving as president of ETS and on its executive committee, and is adjunct professor of Historical Theology at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary. He is the author of seven books and has written many articles appearing in popular and academic periodicals.

James R. Beck is professor of counseling at Denver Seminary and the author of many books, including Jesus and Personality Theory: Exploring the Five Factor Model. The essays are contributed by Thomas R. Schreiner, Linda L. Belleville, Craig S. Keener, and Craig L. Blomberg.

Dr. Linda Belleville is Professor of New Testament at Bethel College and Graduate School in Mishawaka, IN.

Craig L. Blomberg is distinguished professor of New Testament at Denver Seminary. He holds a Ph.D. from the University of Aberdeen, Scotland. He is the author, co-author or co-editor of fifteen books and more than eighty articles in journals or multi-author works. A recurring topic of interest in his writings is the historical reliability of the Scriptures. Craig and his wife Fran have two daughters and reside in Centennial, Colorado. SPANISH BIO: Craig L. Blomberg tiene un doctorado del Nuevo Testamento de la Universidad Aberdeen en Escocia, una maestria de la Escuela Trinity Evangelical Divinity y una Licenciatura de la Facultad Agustana. Es miembro del cuerpo docente en el Seminario de Denver y tambien fue profesor en la Facultad Palm Beach Atlantic. Ademas, ha sido autor y coautor de varios libros, entre ellos De Pentecostes a Patmos. Craig, su esposa Fran y sus dos hijas residen en Centennial, Colorado.

Craig S. Keener (PhD, Duke University) is professor of biblical studies at Palmer Theological Seminary of Eastern University.

Thomas R. Schreiner (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is James Buchanan Harrison Professor of New Testament and associate dean of Scripture and interpretation at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. The author of numerous books, he is the preaching pastor of Clifton Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky. He and his wife, Diane Elaine, have four children.

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  • Reading level: Ages 18 and up
  • Paperback: 368 pages
  • Publisher: Zondervan; Revised edition (September 3, 2005)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 031025437X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0310254379
  • Product Dimensions: 7.9 x 5.3 x 1 inches
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  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (16 customer reviews)
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3.0 out of 5 stars Great writing (for the most part), poor editing, March 30, 2002
As with previous "Counterpoints" books, this book is very technical, and the authors make much use of the original Greek and Hebrew biblical texts. The good parts of this book are very good -- meriting 5 stars easily for their coverage of the subject. Specifically, the essays by Keener and Belleville (promoting equality of roles in the church) and Schreiner (promoting male authority) are very well-researched and well-written. Anyone wanting a current understanding of the debate on gender roles in the church would do well to read the book for these essays alone.

I only give this book 3 stars, though, for 3 main reasons:
(1) The 4th essay, by Ann Bowman, really doesn't fit with the format of the book. She writes very compellingly on how women are equal to men before God, how women are equally called to serve in ministry, and how women are equally gifted with the same spiritual gifts. What she does NOT cover, though, is the specific roles that the Bible deems appropriate for women (which is what I thought the book was supposed to be about). In short, she spends all but about 7 pages writing on what everybody else would agree on anyway. She does a good job of establishing the equal value of women in the church, but contributes almost nothing to the discussion of what leadership roles they should occupy.

(2) The format of the book is different from earlier Counterpoints volumes, in that the authors do not respond to each other's articles. The editors simply ask each of the writers a series of questions after each essay, and then comment on each position. Gone are what I thought were some of the most insightful portions of previous Counterpoints books -- seeing writers POINT OUT THE WEAKNESSES of the other writers' positions. To resolve the controversy on women in ministry leadership, both sides need to interact with each other, rather than just each side stating its case.

(3) The final appendix, by editor Craig Blomberg, was well-intentioned but inappropriately placed. He states that his goal is to point out a 3rd alternative that combines the strengths of the other 2 views. But what ensues is an essay that is largely traditionalist / hierarchicalist in nature, and only in the last few pages briefly describes what may be a mediating view. Since this essay is presented last, and without any subsequent comment or review, it appears to the reader as "the definitive word" on the subject. But Blomberg's ideas are far from definitive. He summarily promotes some heriarchicalist positions, and summarily dismisses other egalitarian positions without always adequately defending why. It is a well-written essay, but I think it belongs more in the center of the book (or as a 3rd alternative of a book titled "Three Views of Women in Ministry"), so that those who might not agree with him could respond and comment. The structure of the book, as it is now, suggests that Blomberg has listened to both sides of the evidence and come up with the "correct" position. But I found myself questioning his conclusions numerous times because he did not adequately defend them.

My recommendation: Buy this book if you're interested in the topic of women in minsitry, but read it through and either take notes on it or underline the significant parts. Then go back later and re-read your notes or underlined parts, in a different order than how they are presented. (i.e., read the appendix first, then ch.3-4, then ch.1-2). This will keep the structure of the book from influencing you as much, enabling you to evaluate your own position on the basis of the biblical evidence alone.

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22 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars More Light than Heat, June 23, 2005
The best introduction to the debate over women in ministry is by far and away Craig L. Blomberg's and James R. Beck's Two Views On Women In Ministry. Edited by two men, each conservative seminary professors (Denver Seminary) represent the opposing viewpoints, and call upon one man and one woman to each put forth an essay arguing for and against women in ministry. Craig Keener and Linda Belleville defend the Egalitarian position (allowing) while Tom Schreiner and Ann Bowman defend the Complementarian position (barring).

The most exegetically dense essay comes from Belleville in that she answers Wayne Grudem's "6 questions" in his Open Letter to Egalitarians satisfactorily. She also makes many key distinctions between being "pro-mutuality" and "pro-gay" that undermine the charge that accepting women as pastors will eventually lead to accepting practicing accepting homosexual persons as pastors (hence validating their lifestyles). Schreiner returns the favor with an equally strong essay-probably the most well written-building his prohibiting views off of a broader base of gender roles he believes are spelled out more clearly in the Genesis record and the teachings on marriage. He then finishes it off with cogent interpretations of the classic prohibiting texts such as 1 Timothy 2:11-15, 1 Corinthians 11:3-16, and 14:34-35. Keener, draws upon his voluminous wealth of extra-biblical historical literature showing how each instance of the prohibiting texts is plausibly culture bound, and the main point of his essay is establishing criteria that is able to determine what is culture-bound and what not. Though, he does not develop this in detail, he brings to light many women in the Bible that had influential ministry roles that transcend the idea that the Bible permits some ministry to women, but not all. Bowman's essay was the weakest in my view in that it did not put forth much of an exegetical argument (except an interpretation of 1 Timothy 2:11-13) pertaining to women in ministry, but mostly focused on the nature of ministry in general. She, however, argued that almost all ministries-even some pastoral positions-are open to women except for the nebulous concept of a "senior pastor."

Blomberg, perhaps sensing a misbalance in the essays, concludes with an attempt at a mediating position called "Neither Hierarchalist nor Egalitarian" which, though biased towards a complementarian view, takes a broad look at the issues and polarities in the controversy and admits that there is much ambiguity and unsolved problems left to explore. His essay finishes the book nicely showing holes that egalitarians often fail to recognize, yet he also fairly shows that they haven't been adequately filled by the Complementarians either.

All in all, I heartily recommend this very irenic and approachable book that generates much more light than heat on a very threatening and unapproachable issue. One will be left, after finishing the book, thinking that egalitarians do in fact argue biblically rather than culturally, and that complementarians do in fact love and cherish women and their ministries rather than denigrating them.
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17 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars From Heresy to Honesty about Women in Ministry, May 21, 2001
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I applaud Beck and Blomberg and the four contributors to this well-researched, provocative, and honest discussion of the role of women in ministry. The high caliber scholarship combined with an irenic spirit on a volatile topic brings the discussion to a new level of openness and respect. The contributors help defuse the ugliness in the discussion that prevailed when this topic surfaced in earnest in the evangelical community. Neither view (egalitarian and complementarian) is "heretical" because scholars/pastors on both sides are seeking to honestly deal with the Scriptures, cultural realities, and contemporary applications. TWO VIEWS OF WOMEN IN MINISTRY presents the important and significant impact women have made in the unfolding of God's redemptive purposes. Yet, the central issue is whether the hotly debated texts from Paul (in 1 Corinthians 11 and 14, and 1 Timothy 2) are ad hoc directives, i.e., applicable only to the specific problems in Corinth and Ephesus at the time Paul wrote, or timeless directives that apply to all women in all cultures in all ages. I think this book compels the extremist proponents of each view to move to an honest, biblical middle where significant progress can be made. Zondervan is to be commended for this excellent presentation of a serious subject facing the evangelical community.
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