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  • Paperback: 300 pages
  • Publisher: Conciliar Press Ministries Inc. (May 25, 2005)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 096227139X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0962271397
  • Product Dimensions: 5.5 x 0.7 x 8.5 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 0.8 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (14 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #844,463 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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Also features a preface from one of my favorite heirarchs in the Church today, Fr.
Scott Brown (smbrown@fixitnow.com)
Finally, there will be a great battle at Armaggedon and Christ will come again in the Parousia, the Second Coming, to judge living and the dead.
New Age of Barbarism
I highly recommend Mr. Engleman's book for the layperson who is seeking answers to the often confusing subject of the End Times.
J. Bettencourt

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30 of 32 people found the following review helpful By Scott Brown (smbrown@fixitnow.com) on October 27, 1999
Format: Paperback
Finally!! One of the faithful from the Holy Orthodox Church steps into the eschatology fray and knocks the socks off the pop prophecy fads so in vogue today. Also features a preface from one of my favorite heirarchs in the Church today, Fr. Tom Hopko.
Rather than setting out his own interpretation, as is so vogue in many fractalized Protestant circles today, Engleman, in the true tradition of the Orthodox Church, quotes extensively from the Church Fathers on eschatological matters. Heretical and 'gitchee' modern doctrines like the Rapture are debunked as non-canonical, non-scriptural, and the vain imaginings of a 19th century Scotish woman.
As a practicing Orthodox Christian myself, I received immense guidance from this book and am very thankful to Dennis Engleman for this timely and much needed contribution.
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18 of 20 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on February 8, 1999
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This is an amazing book. It is defintely the best book written on the coming times. Throw out Nostradamus, according to the Holy Scriptures, the Church Fathers of Ancient Christianty, and Orthodox Bishops of old and new, Nostradamus is way off! The Orthodox Church does not recieve prophecy from a single person, nor does it give dates on future events that do not happen. This book is a must read for all Orthodox Christians and those who want to live in eternal life forever. People who read this book will be very surprised to find what the end really holds for our lives and the planet we live on. MUST READ!! MUST READ!!
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17 of 21 people found the following review helpful By K.H. on June 22, 2001
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After years of reading everything from non-traditional end-times views by Seventh-Day Adventist and pre-millinial views like LeHaye and Lindsey, I wanted so much to read a more careful and thoughtful depiction on Christian Eschatology. So far I'm still wanting.
First, the title is a misnomer, since in the forward, Father Hopko, who endorses the book, also tells the reader that the book is an "Orthodox Perspective" not neccesaarily "Orthodox Teaching." I'm not to sure what that is supposed to mean. The Orthodox Church does not agree with this escthalocial construct, but it is written with an Orthodox twist? It is not clear. Therefore, the book is purchased with a kind of false pretense. The title "Orthodox Perspective" gives the suspecting buyer the ideal he is reading "Orthodox teaching."
While the author quotes several Saints of the Church, scripture, and teachers, he is sometimes dis-jointed in connecting the dots. He often quotes too much and fails in providing enough personnal commentary.
While I tend to agree with his position compared to the curent rage of Pre-tribulational theology, I do not find too much different from traditional Amillinialism. The twist comes here in this text with a focus on Eastern Christrianity. This is the books strength. The West has ofetn view the "last days" through an American eyes version. The middle East climatic battles are read on what is America's role. This book tends to demonstarte the Church's role as we are Christians first, and Nationalist second.
That is the books strength and for it allow this book should be read.
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8 of 9 people found the following review helpful By Walter Terehoff on March 17, 2003
Format: Paperback
An Unbeleivable Eye openner, being a Russian Orthodox and just starting to re-explore my faith.
This book is of monumental porportion, it's scarry yet having a strong beleive in my Orthodox religion and knowing what awaits us in the after life it's an inspiration.
A must read for anyone whos faith is shaken or whos soul is searching for a true religion...Ultimate Things puts all the HERESIES of the Rapture and the Millenial reign of Christ on earth to rest and shows people the thruth of what is to come. ORTHODOXY proclaiming the THRUTH since 33 A.D
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18 of 23 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on February 24, 2004
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I was disappointed after reading this book, but it was the first Orthodox resource I had come across that dealt with the end times. Sadly, it is so rooted in the ethos of the 20th century that the approach of the author was indistinguishable from fundamentalist Protestant writers. The insistence that THESE are the last days, and that THESE are the signs which prove it is symptomatic of the apocalyptic sectarian thinking which has characterized a small but vocal part of American Christianity over the past 150 years. While no Southern Baptist would identify the "restraining power" spoken of in 2 Thes. 2 with the holy martyr Tsar Nicholas II of Russia, the specificity of this identification is one which has been shunned by the Orthodox Church. It has been over 85 years since the Bolshevik Revolution. How long do we have to wait before deciding that this event, tragic as it was, was not the beginning of the end?
A much better book on the subject is "A Second Look at the Second Coming: Sorting Through the Speculations" by T. L. Frazier. It exposes the heretical teachings behind millenarianism, Zionism, the "rapture," dispensationalism, and numerology but it also presents a positive and hopeful outlook, calling us all to a joyful penitence in light of our Lord's glorious second coming.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful By Jacob on March 10, 2010
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It's an Orthodox take on the "end times" and it's quite interesting at that. Reformed and evangelical readers who are moderately familiar with the end times arguments will find many of Engleman's arguments familiar. To the degree that evangelicals follow St Augustine's City of God, they will recognize and appreciate many of Engleman's arguments.

It would be a misnomer to call this "amillennialism." Such a category is worse than useless and tells you nothing, except that you aren't a dispensationalist. But it kind of looks like it. The difference between Engelman's eschatology and amillennialism, is that the latter is annoyingly vague on eschatology except in saying that we are in the "millennium" now. Engleman, however, is quite refreshing: he is frank and specific in a way that doesn't draw up time frames.

The book isn't perfect by any stretch. An editor could have at least made the endnotes aesthetically consistent. Quotations that are longer than four lines should be set apart in the text (especially if the quotation is a page long!). And much of the book is simply narrating bible passages (I suppose that's good). It's an easy read, all things considered. I'm beginning to see a pattern in his argumentation, from varying strength to weakness.

Strengths: to the degree he is following consistently to the monks, the church fathers, and Fr Seraphim Rose, the book maintains a stunning intensity and power in argument. This is why his view is better than amillennialism. He has the same basic structure as amillennialism, but can is specific in naming evil characters on the world scene.

Weaknesses: I'm not sure he is fully aware of some of the sources he is quoting. And some of his bible passages seem jarringly out of context.
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