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17 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Eye-opening and Revealing, Facts Abound
Sauder's work on Undersea & underground bases is really interesting, fact baed journey into a part of our reality we rarely see, hear about or discuss. His work is rivetted with facts, quotes from government documents, corporate websites, and different agencies. He also throws in quotes from anonymous insiders, but this isn't the force behind his work, and they exist...
Published on June 20, 2008 by B. Kopenhaver

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15 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Not very fun to read
I bought this book thinking I would get a little insight into what was actually down in those bases...but all this book is, is a bunch of documents proving that these tunnels and underground bases exist. Which, with time and effort...anyone can find. But it IS worth just looking through...and it IS worth having just as reference, or when you want to say to someone...
Published on June 17, 2002 by chad steingraber


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17 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Eye-opening and Revealing, Facts Abound, June 20, 2008
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Sauder's work on Undersea & underground bases is really interesting, fact baed journey into a part of our reality we rarely see, hear about or discuss. His work is rivetted with facts, quotes from government documents, corporate websites, and different agencies. He also throws in quotes from anonymous insiders, but this isn't the force behind his work, and they exist solely in illustrate the facts he lays down.

He opens with some common government underground installations. He shows us what's on the record and gives us glimpses of CIA, FEMA, US Military, NSA and many other installations that exist, underground and can be proven so by the available data. He then goes onto discuss the two sides of the US government, the everday apparent one we read about in Newspapers and see on TV and the completely invisible one that works with classified data, technology and black budgets. He quotes an excerpt from Blank Check: The Pentagon's Black Budget by Tim Weiner as follows:

There are two governments in the United States today. One is visible. The other is invisible.

The first is the government that citizens read about in their newspapers and children study about in their civics books. The second is the interlocking, hidden machinery that carries out the policies of the United States in the Cold War.



He then goes on:


These words were written by David Wise and Thomas Ross in the 1960s, at the height of the Cold War. More than 30 years have passed, the Cold War is now over (at any rate that is what the newspapers tell us), but the invisible government remains. And the secret underground bases fall within its clandestine domain. Out of sight, out of mind. Funded from the black budget, steathily constructed, operated by known and unknown, highly secretive agencies that carry out hidden agendas, without our knowledge, deep underground.

In 1973, L Fletcher Prouty, a retired US Air Force Colonel, published an eye-opening book entitled, The Secret Team. Prouty held a unique position in the United States government. From 1955 to 1963 he was the liaison between the Central Intelligence Agency and the Department of Defense for military support of what he calls Special Operations. In this position he had access to a wide range of political, intelligence and military operatives - all the way from Washington, DC and the Pentagon to the far corners of the globe. He saw the full gamut of secret operations and policy making.

The Secret Team which gives Prouty the title for his book, is a powerful, brutally violent and treacherous international octopus. It has operatives in the academic world (scholars), in intelligence agencies (spies), in the military (both officers and enlisted personnel), in private industry (businessmen & women), in the world of corporate and public sector high finance (bankers, financiers and stock brokers), in the news media (electronic & print journalists), in the publishing industry in the United States and abroad (book publishers). It has powerful connections in dozens of countries all over the world. According to Prouty, the Secret Team overthrows and influences governments almost at will, all over the globe. At the core of the Secret Team are members of the CIA, the National Security Council, and various and sundry other military and civilian officials, intelligence operatives, business people and academics.

Prouty characterizes this Secret Team as "the real power structure". Far from being a tight, coherently focused group it is in actuality more like a hugely violent, murderously out of control, sprawling octopus that has the world and the United States in its deadly grasp.



He continue, discussing the Black Budget, and how it's easily in the Tens of Billions of Dollars a year - enough to build multiple underground installations in the last fifty years.

He gives some evidence for a secret tunnel system in the US, a little exposition on MagLev technology, and a few briefs from companies that were submitting contracts for extensive, nation-wide systems to be built by the year 2000. Interesting that we never heard of any such system in the works, and if it was underground only to be used by 'The Secret Team' of course we wouldn't have. I must admit, the technical briefs he presents as well as illustrations of bases and pictures of machinery is all very eye-opening. It's just amazing to think this stuff actually exists and that it NEVER is discussed anywhere.

He goes on to discuss how to hide an underground base, how you'd cloak it's construction and quotes from some government documents for weapons inspectors that detail what to look for when you're searching for covert facilities. It's all really interesting, and makes the Big Dig in Boston and the NYC Water pipe project look like they may be cover for some clandestine operations undernearth those major cities. Perhaps ports for the secret mag lev system? (my guess not his)

The next two chapters go onto the topic of undersea operations and boy these are incredible! He gives plans, documents and details that show from experts in the field how such things could be constructed for a few million dollars. He gives us a look at the navy's special underwater construction teams and offices, showing that the members of this group must have top secret clearance. I mean, connecting the dots yourself it's obvious that the navy is engaged in lots of underwater construction... I wonder what they're building down there?

He even shows that its possible to build bases under the ocean floor, from a submarine completely concealed from surface observation. It's technically feasible, and totally affordable for the Secret Team and their black budget.

Overall the book was eye-opening. It yields an awareness of the technical capabilities of these secret entities that seem to run about in the shadows. Likelihood that hundreds of these bases exist around the world is high, yet we don't know about them, have no idea what they're used for, and since they're kept secret my only guess is that the stuff their doing down there isn't for the benefit of humanity at large. I highly recommend this book, if only for it's ability to offer facts, documentation, and images that one will get no where else.
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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Interesting and Informative..., March 11, 2008
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This book is a sequel to Richard Sauder's "Underground Bases and Tunnels" and, as one might expect, this second book is a bit more polished and includes new material. The included photos and drawings are very well incorporated with the text, and the author includes thorough footnotes (and one must remember that some sources are anonymous, due to the secret and classified nature of government "black" projects). The writing style is at times tiring, as Mr. Sauder redundantly reminds the reader that he cannot prove much of what he has presented. But that is the nature of the subject material, and I certainly do feel that the author did the best he could with all the information that was available to him. All things considered, I recommend this and also Richard Sauder's first book, mentioned above.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars More about "how" the tunnels are made then what's going on inside them, January 5, 2009
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This was a very interesting book that revealed to me just exactly how the government, or anybody, could go about tunneling into the earth.
While I was looking for a book that actually explained just what in the hell is going on down below, I wasn't disappointed with the information I had learned after reading.
If you were writing a book or article about an secret underground base, this book would definitely come in handy.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars They are really doing it., February 22, 2007
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This book shows what the secret U.S. government is really doing, and what they are capable of. It does not dabble into speculation because it's to secret to even know.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Stunning Follow-up To Original Underground Study, December 24, 2010
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Sauder has here compiled an even greater amount of information that seems to indicate that not only are underground bases being manufactured in the United States, but also that bases are perhaps being constructed under vast bodies of water. He has documents which suggest this to be an accurate interpretation and since his first work gotten a great deal of insider information from people in the military, government, and a few corporations which have been directly involved in such work. I would suggest anyone interested in the possibly secretive actions of their government to purchase this book and give it a read. It is well worth the consideration.
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15 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Not very fun to read, June 17, 2002
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I bought this book thinking I would get a little insight into what was actually down in those bases...but all this book is, is a bunch of documents proving that these tunnels and underground bases exist. Which, with time and effort...anyone can find. But it IS worth just looking through...and it IS worth having just as reference, or when you want to say to someone "look, see what some of your money is paying for!". But that's about it. There is no new insights or revelations that make you think or ponder what is happening....just a bunch of financial numbers.

So, not much fun to read...but good for reference.

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19 of 30 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars How to Build a Big Tunnel, February 6, 2002
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Richard Sauder has done his homework. He has documented the means and methods by which the American Government and some of the more powerful corporations have been building many tunnels and bases under U.S. soil and oceans. If you want to know the how, then this book is for you.
If you want to know why these tunnels were built and their possible functions, then steer well clear. I bought this book on the assumption that I would be finding out about conspiracies, about things I haven't been told elsewhere.
Instead I get facts and figures about tunnelling machines and costs and corporations. This is the sort of dry factual material I was force fed at University. No more!
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4 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Good Reference Book, March 7, 2006
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I purchased this book as a piece of reference material, and it's served me fairly well. The chapter on the high speed rail system could have been shorter, and filled with more of the author's material rather than direct copies of files from various agencies involved with plans to construct the railway. I found the direct inclusion of such source materials in chapters to be rather cumbersome. Perhaps they should have been included at the rear of the book, but large percentages of chapters shouldn't have been composed of them. The author also tries to build up a vague "conspiracy" scenario to attach to the facts about these underground facilities, without going so far as to slip to the level of Roswell alien fueled propaganda. (The author says he believes if anyone's conducting experiments in these facilities, they're no doubt human. Sorry, no aliens here.) I still felt this detracted from the work. Especially annoying was the author's claim early on that he was contacted mentally late one evening by someone using a thought transmission device. While the inclusion of the device patent was interesting, and such technology is indeed in existence, (in developmental form) it just didn't seem appropriate to mention it. But who can blame him? Due to all the conspiracy claims, and talks of extraterrestrial beings being stored at these facilities, there's scarcely a market for these sorts of works outside the popular UFO culture enshrouding America today. People want their aliens, and have no patience for authors who don't deliver. In the future massive underground transportation and residential facilities may dispel a lot of the popular myth surrounding the technique of underground and underwater building, and this book will serve as a standard by which future books into the world of clandestine underground and underwater construction will be measured against.
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9 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Wasn't what I expected., May 10, 2002
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Reference book information. Everything in this book can be found on the Internet or in common reference books. If you want to really know secrets from 'insiders' and world recognized researchers, then read: 'Unconventional Flying Objects' by Dr. Paul Hill (NASA scientists), 'Alien Agenda' by Jim Marrs, the best selling author of several books including 'Crossfire.' Read 'Alien Rapture' by Brad Steiger and Edgar Fouche. Steiger has written and published over a hundred books and novels, many in this conspiracy/paranormal/UFO genre. Fouche worked Top Secret black programs for over 25 years and reveals way too much in Alien Rapture. Check out these other fine books on Amazon. I would pass on this one. Besides, Art Bell and Whitley Strieber this guy has no real support and is boring, boring, boring.
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