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Van Der Graaf Generator: Godbluff Live 1975

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Well, there's good news here and (slightly) less good news.

Let me start with the latter. This is just a DVD. Just the disc, in other words, nothing else. No liner notes, no booklet. And the DVD just jumps into the music, plays it through, and ends. Nothing even remotely resembling anything extra.

Given this very basic approach, it should come at no surpise that that the actual film footage is of reasonable - but not excellent - quality.

As to the sound recordings: they're fair. But not by any means pristine. For example, in the reasonably quiet instrumental sections at the beginning of Lighthouse Keepers ("Pictures Lighthouse"), there's way too much background noise and hiss.

Then the mix - well, someone has actually taken the time to remix it to a Dolby 5.1 surround version. However, that turns out to be a bit of a half-hearted affair, really. To say that the sound actually comes at you from five different channels is about all you can say in favour of this endeavour.

But the thing is - does any of this really matter all that much? Because, very simply put, the good news is that here, at last, we have Van der Graff in their heydey on film. We have a complete, intense and yet also remarkably sober performance of the entire Godbluff album, as recorded in concert in Paris in 1975.

And then, as a bonus, we get two earlier tracks, recorded in a somewhat primitively surreal environment (without, it seeems, an audience) somewhere in 1971: Theme 1 and the full A Plague Of Lighthose Keepers.

In the end, it comes down to this. This Godbluff DVD might not be what Van der Graaf ultimately deserve - as one of the very best of progressive bands, they deserve far greater recognition in every way - but having said that, anyone fond of the band should pick this up forthwith.

This release contains two selections from a 1971 appearance by Van der Graaf Generator on Dutch television - `Theme one' and their magnum opus `A plague of lighthouse keepers' - as well as a performance filmed in France in 1975 that features all four songs from their GODBLUFF reunion album. According to Peter Hammill, these two performances are the only video records of Van der Graaf in existence - so for their fans (and we're a pretty die-hard lot, let me tell you), this is an absolutely essential item.

The sound quality on the older tracks is a little thin, but the mix isn't too bad once you get past `Theme one' (on which it's hard to hear Hugh Banton's organ once Guy Evans (drums) and David Jackson (multiple saxophones) enter. When Peter Hammill joins for `A plague of lighthouse keepers', the mix seems to improve a good bit. The camera work is pretty good - the director seems to know pretty much when to feature the different band members - and the set design is imaginative but not overbearing (referring to the use of candles at the beginning of `A plague...'). This material (about 30 minutes worth) has been available before by itself (it's usually listed by the title MASTERS FROM THE VAULT) - just a few months ago, the film of the GODBLUFF performance in France from 1975 showed up, and Peter convinced the company to combine the two onto one DVD in order to give fans more for their money.

The French concert was filmed on the tour in 1975 mounted to promote their recently released album GODBLUFF - they had split up four years before, after the release of PAWN HEARTS in 1971, and Peter had been concentrating on solo projects. The musicians knew each other well, and had no trouble at all recalling the spirit of the band when they got back together. There are little glitches visible from the film print - tiny dots here and there, possibly dust or damaged places in the emulsion of the original - but overall, the video quality is good. As another reviewer noted, the camera work is a little odd at times - there are some EXTREME close-ups of the band members, and in a couple of places, it looks like the camera shooting Guy Evans is resting on one of his bass drums (judging by the bounce in the picture). As far as the sound quality of this section of the DVD goes, it's not bad - it could have been mixed a little better, but we have no way of knowing what the people who did the final mix had to work with. The concert was filmed almost thirty years ago, after all.

It's easy when watching something like this to think `Gee - I wish they had shot David Jackson from a little more distance, so we could see his technique in playing two saxes simultaneously', or `That shot of Peter Hammill's throat muscles contracting while he strains is interesting, but...' - but more often than thinking such things, I found myself mesmerized by the experience of seeing a band that I've revered for thirty-five years (who only ever played ONE GIG in the US, thankyouverymuch...!) perform some of their greatest songs in a concert setting.

I think the DVD is a treasure. Fans should pick this up immediately, before it goes out of print - and anyone who has the slightest interest in `progressive' rock music (Peter Hammill DETESTS that label, sorry...) owes it to themselves to investigate this band. Actually, unless you're just starting out on that road, I can't imagine that you haven't run across them yet. The instrumentation of the band combined with Hammill's voice and his amazing lyrical gift, make them something very special indeed.

I don't know WHO on earth we have to thank for this, but THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! This may be the greatest gem of a dvd concert I could ever hope for. And, I am SO glad I bought this one & not Masters from the Vault (the other VdGG dvd). I can't believe how *clear* the picture is. There's all of GODBLUFF, my favorite VdGG album of all time. There's "Theme One" and also the "Plague of Lighthousekeepers." I got this in only 4 days from Amazon, and ripped it opened and played it immediately. Now, if only a vintage King Crimson concert dvd would be released. Not that noisy new KC shtuff. I mean Wetton/Bruford/Cross, and that other guy. Man, I'd be stupified. Mr. Fripp: I hope you are you reading this!

I have just bought this DVD and I have seen it two times. There is two shows on this DVD, the complete Godbluff concert in France and the complete same performance consigned in the From the Vaults DVD. So if you want to buy some Van der Graaf, buy this one and get all.

Both shows are amazing. The band is in terrific good shape and the songs are performed just as in the original albums. This is not easy considering some songs are quite difficult as Keepers....Saxes, drums and keyboards just excellent. Peter's voice well managed. Sound and image is better on the older performance, but in the 1975 one is still great.

This is a great find for any Van der graaf or Peter Hammill fan. The disc contains a live recording from 1975 of the band performing the entire Godbluff album plus two songs from a Belgian TV appearance in 1971( theme one and a plague of lighthouse keepers).
Th 1975 footage is fairly poorly shot, mostly close ups of either Peter Hammill or David Jackson and some wide shots of Guy Evans. Hugh Banton is almost nowhere to be seen. In all this is fairly typical of the period and for fans of the band is well worth owning.
The two numbers from 1971 are another thing altogether. The director has tried to interpret the music ( Lighthouse keepers ) visually and has done a great job.This is a moody and magnificent recording of a great band.The last two tracks really left me wanting more.
The sound quality of both gigs is great and I highly recommend this disc to fans of the band or of prog rock in general.

Well, there's the good: very accomplished playing, songs that are more concerned with sound than with "normal" structure, and the intense interaction among the members of the band. These people are listening to each other *hard*. Both the film and the video are as clean as they could possibly be.

Then there's the bad: the 1970s video shoot is incredibly goofy; candles are o.k., but sparklers?. The sound is thin - Jackson's reeds suffer the most - and Hammill is playing one of those terribly harsh early-70's electric pianos with a folding top. "Lighthouse Keepers" really isn't played straight through (there are two obvious edits), and, more critically, it doesn't really work well with a single vocal part.

And the mixed: The sound on the 1975 recording is a bit muddy and bassy, but it's not all that bad. Hammill is unfortunately unintelligble for most of the performance (the one fault the 1970 recording lacks), though his vocal work is smoother and more flexible than in the earlier shoot. The 1975 camera work is not bad either considering that it looks like they had only two 16mm cameras on tripods in the corners of the stage, one of which I think they must have pulled off the tripod for the hand-held work. There's only so much you can do with a zoom lens. Note to a previous reviewer: The camera is not mounted on Evan's bass drum; he's just whacking so hard that he's shaking the entire kit. The man plays nearly as brutally as Christian Vander!

Overall? If you've heard and liked VDG, you'll love it. It's not an introduction, though.

The video quality is regular. The sound is pretty acceptable. You can even see some dirt on the screen, but that does not matter at all. This is a dream come true for VDGG fans, one of the greatest prog rock bands ever.

Van Der Graaf Generator is not among the more well-known of progressive rock outfits of the 1970's. Many casual prog fans may be aware of the band, perhaps even heard a tune, but in terms of popularity, VDGG is virtually unknown in comparison to bands such as Yes and even King Crimson. However, Van der Graaf was never about being popular, or even accessible in many cases. Peter Hammill has one of the most unique voices in any genre of music, and either you love or hate what this band has done. The sound ranges from progressive space rock (H to He, Pawn Hearts), to a more immediate, almost punky sound, which is represented on this Godbluff DVD.

I'm not sure how to describe the music here, but the concert proper features the majority of the 1975 record of the same title, and it is my favorite album of the group. Their song "Scorched Earth" is my absolute favorite song of theirs, and if you appreciate this kind of music, you will love it too. The sound is progressive, and unique for featuring neither bass or electric guitars (the bass is covered by organist Hugh Banton, and Hammill infrequently plays guitars). As I mentioned above, the sound has almost a punk quality to it, in that the vocals are mostly agressive and the energy is quite direct and doesn't get too carried away. Not to fear, though: each song is quite long, and features many organ and saxophone solos. Prog meets jazz and punk rock in a dark alley, and VDGG results.

Very little video exists of this band during its 60's-70's tenure , so it is extremely important that this DVD even exists. The 1975 concert captured here is a mere 38 minutes long, but it is quite powerful and fairly represents the work of the group at the particular time it was filmed. If you've seen any concert films of the 70's (Song Remains the Same, YesSongs, Pictures of an Exhibition), you will understand that the picture and audio of the era are far from pristine. However, what is here is perfectly good, and should not warrant any unfavorable comments. My only real complaint: was it really necessary to make a 5.1 mix? This is a 30+ year old tape, and the audio benefits little, if any, from this multi-speaker mix.

The distributor of this DVD, Classic Rock Productions, has encountered some troubles with bands and fans alike with releases of other classic material from other groups. This DVD appears to be approved, however, and Pete Hammill sells it on his personal website/shop. I'm not sure if the band properly "profits" from this DVD, but it appears to bear an official status. It even features a lengthy bonus of "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" from 1971, which stretches the whole set out to roughly an hour. Not the longest DVD ever, but well worth it, especially to fans who must have EVERYTHING this band has done.

A quality archival effort, and the only known representation of the group on video. There are rumors of a new DVD of the band from their reunion tour of 2005, so keep an eye out.

First off, I must say that despite the OK audio quality on both the Godbluff and Belgian TV segments, the performances are excellent, capturing VDGG at their crazed, intriguing and unpredictable best.

The utter thorn in the side of this DVD for me is is the photography on the Godbluff segment (entire album performed in order live)which to say the least is MADDENING!! The vast majority of it is only extreme closeups of Hammill and David Jackson with little else, Hugh and Guy get about a whopping 2 seconds of screen time each and there's no full band shots to be found for love or money. ARRRRRRRRRRGH!! I wonder was the film footage from the other cameras damaged, or was it a very lazy director of photography?

The Belgian TV segment while not ultra-high quality is still very enjoyable in its own early 70's sort of way, "Plague fop Lighthouse Keepers" is positively chilling. And at least EVERYONE got a good mix of screen time.

IF you're a VDGG fan, definitely grab this, just be prepared to deal witht he above mentioned flaws.

I have just bought this DVD and I have seen it two times. There is two shows on this DVD, the complete Godbluff concert in France and the complete same performance consigned in the From the Vaults DVD. So if you want to buy some Van der Graaf, buy this one and get all.

Both shows are amazing. The band is in terrific good shape and the songs are performed just as in the original albums. This is not easy considering some songs are quite difficult as Sleepers....Saxes, drums and keyboards just excellent. Peter's voice well managed. Sound and image is better on the older performance, but in the 1975 one is still great.