Customer Reviews

Verbatim 97090 25 GB 2x Blu-ray Single-Layer Recordable Disc BD-R LTH (Low to High), 20-Disc Spindle

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I have to say, the idea is interesting - create blank Blu-ray media in a method that can be produced with existing production lines for blank CDs and DVDs. The premise is that the lower costs to produce the disks are passed onto the consumers.

Here are the problems:
1) LTH disks are NOT compatible with all Blu-ray players, let alone all Blu-ray recorders (although most Blu-ray recorders from 2009 on can burn them).

BIG LOSS: The top-rated, top-selling Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, released in 2009 and frequently updated by Oppo is incompatible with LTH media.
Oppo support says they are investigating, but have no commitment for a firmware update that would allow the BDP-83 to play content burned on LTH media.

2) Speed - slower than conventional Blu-ray media. On my Pioneer BDR-205 (which is an LTH compatible burner), they were slower to burn than standard "4x" media, although not by a full 2x factor (on average, about 1.4x slower).

3) Cost - in the end, is there a cost savings? Unfortunately very little. Compare this with a similar 25GB blank 20-pack BD-R (4x) media. List price is lower, but actual Amazon selling price is nearly the same.

4) Longevity - this one is subject to debate, but there are some opinions that the organic dye used by LTH media won't last as long as conventional BD-R media.

In my book, this combination of factors will shy me away from LTH media. Unless the compatibility increases, and the price difference becomes substantially different in the future, I won't be buying them again.

I have burned hundreds of bd-r disks over the last few years (I was a bit of an early adopter on this one). I purchased these disks after I got scared away from buying the cheaper memorex disks from all of the problems people have reported. That being said, I actually had more problems with these disks than I have ever had with any other single batch of disks. Firstly, my extremely common burner could only burn them at 2x, which is about as molasses when you are dumping 25 gigs. Secondly, about 50 percent of the disks failed to burn properly. I noticed these weird little bubbles on the bottom surface whenever the verify failed. I mailed all of the dead one's off to verbatim, and the were kind enough to quickly and efficiently dispatch replacement disks for all of the coasters. I had hoped that perhaps I just received a bad lot, but alas, I had the same problem with the replacement disks.
I haven't seen anyone else reporting this as an issue, so there is a possibility I have some strange confluence of hardware problems that has led to these problems, but whatever the issue, I have never had problems like this with any other disks. I laud their service, but these disks are for the birds.

These are supposed to be compatible with LG's BH10Ls30 Super Multi Blu-Ray burner. THEY ARE NOT! I just wasted 7. All coaster now! I thought it may have been a bad blu ray unit so I took it back since it was only 2 days old. Put another one in and still got error messages when trying to burn with these discs. But, the free Verbatim disc (6x) that came with the unit worked just fine burning a project. As did the one that came with the second unit I put in. I tried burning projects with 3 different software programs. All gave me error message towards end of process. "Error code 83457304". "Fail to write EB151789". "Writing was canceled".

If you have a LG BD burner, beware....they do not support their drives and fail to provide firmware. They just make a new drive! The WH10LS30 shown on Verbatim website will NOT burn these discs. Save your money and buy the HTL discs and leave the LTH to Verbatim to figure out...and BEWARE on what drive you buy...you may have a doorstop in a few months!

This kind of dicsc (LTH) don't work with all burners, I have a HP BD340i that can't burn this kind of media.

Tried two disks, both failed. My drive wasn't listed on the compatibility chart, but since it was brand new, I listened the advertising that it "should work". I checked to make sure my firmware was up to date, and it was. Put em away in back drawer in case I ever get another BR burner.

So anyway, if you have this drive as I do, save your money, try another brand.

I got a free pack that came with the burner, and they all worked, and they're only a few bucks more expensive than these and 4 speed at that. Might as well stick with those.

These discs are wonderful IF your burner is supported. These discs have a good price point compared to many others, so your price per GB is better here than with other discs.

NOTE: These discs will NOT work with all burners.

Here is a list of burners that these discs are known to work with:

Sony BWU-300s
LITE-ON DH-4B1S (upgrade firmware to at least 7P5B)
Buffalo BRHC-6316U2 (upgrade firmware to at least XJ04)
LG GGW-H20N, L (upgrade firmware to at least XL04, YL04)
LG BE06LU10 (upgrade firmware to at least YE05)
LG BH08NS20, LS20 (upgrade firmware to at least EL02-04)
LG WH08LS20 (upgrade firmware to latest)
LG BH10NS30
Panasonic SW-5582 (upgrade firmware to at least BBF4)
Panasonic SW-5583 (upgrade firmware to at least 1.02)
Panasonic SW-5584
Pioneer BDR-203
Pioneer BDR-205
LaCie 301856U

The following do NOT support these discs:

LG GBW-H10N
Panasonic UJ-210, 215
Panasonic UJ-220, 225
Pioneer BDR-101A
Pioneer BDR-202

This information comes directly from Verbatim.

If all you want is a way to burn data or movies to work with your computer, you're fine.

But these discs will not play on a commercial Blu-Ray player hooked up to a TV.

So, for backing up data, when you're only going to read the data on a computer, you're fine.

If like me you're buying to burn Blu-Ray movies to play on home player, don't buy them.

These discs are not compatible with my Samsung BD-P1600 and therefor useless for me. Check compatibility before buying.

The product spec says: "If your BD burner is a 2009 model or later it will most likely support recording and playback of BD-R LTH media. "
I have a 2010 Samsung Blu-Ray player that works fine but will not recognize LTH media. Samsung says that's correct and that there is
nothing to be done about it. So don't believe Verbatim's claim that new players will read these discs.