32 of 33 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
New evidence for catastrophism, September 27, 1999
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This review is from: Voices of the Rocks : A Scientist Looks at Catastrophes and Ancient Civilizations (Hardcover)
Dr. Robert Schoch's Voices of the Rocks is a scientific expose demonstrating a logical shift from the classical uniformitarian view of the ancient world to one frought with periodic catastrophe. By a combination of hard scientific observation and a more face-value interpretation of mythology and folklore, Dr. Schoch redates the Great Sphinx and pushes back the long held dates of the dawn of civilization. He also attempts to address some mysteries from ancient times. Although, how all those cities burned down at the end of the Bronze Age is still open to debate, Dr. Schoch's hypothesis is intriguing. This is an insightful, information-packed book perfect for the reader who is more inclined to science and less to flights of fancy. I am, however, surprised that Graham Hancock endorsed this book as some of his work is criticized here.
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43 of 46 people found the following review helpful:
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DIFFERENT...BUT HARDLY A PARADIGM SHIFT, April 30, 2000
This review is from: Voices of the Rocks : A Scientist Looks at Catastrophes and Ancient Civilizations (Hardcover)
In contemplating that Homo Sapiens may be at least one million years old, and yet recorded civilization only 5000 to 6000 years old, the author William S. Burroughs referred to that wide gap of history, "a long question mark". Dr.Schoch's book, however, while absolutely fascinating, sheds little light on the "long question mark". This book is heavy on catastrophes and little about ancient civilizations. Dr.Schoch starts the book by defending his theory that the Sphinx may be twice as old as conventionally thought, then a little about the antiquity of the Lascaux caves and an interesting bit about the possibility that the Magdalenian culture of ancient Europe and Asia Minor culminating in Catal Huyuk may have inspired the myths of Atlantis. All quite interesting and worthy of more in depth analysis; but Dr.Schoch merely throws these theories out with little information on their merits or pitfalls,(though he does go to some lengths to defend his theories about the possible older age of the Sphinx.) Far from being paradigm shifting, well over 75% of the book is an apologia for orthodox scientific thinking in regard to catastrophism and possible pre-historic civilizations. Dr.Schoch even resorts, disappointingly, to calling theories he doesn't agree with, (Hapgood, Velikovsky, Sitchin), as "blather"...the old tried and true tactic of the True Faith: label the heretics as lunatics. This is paradigm shifting? Still, the passages in the book about what happens when large extraterrestrial bodies hit are hair-raising and well worth the price of the book. But paradigm shifting? Hardly...
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44 of 50 people found the following review helpful:
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More reasonable than not, December 8, 2000
This review is from: Voices of the Rocks : A Scientist Looks at Catastrophes and Ancient Civilizations (Hardcover)
Prior to the publication of this book, Robert Schoch was best known outside of academic geology as the scientist John Anthony West called in to investigate the idea, by way of Schwaller de Lubicz, that the Sphinx shows signs of water erosion that indicates an age far greater than orthodox Egyptologists are currently willing to consider. As detailed in Chapter Two of "Voices of the Rocks," Schoch came away from his examination convinced both that the Sphinx and its enclosure had been subject to extensive precipitation-induced weathering and that this weathering could only have occurred if the stone had originally been carved at least as far back as 7000-5000 BC, if not earlier, as compared to the previously accepted date of 2700 BC. Anyone looking for a real resolution to the scientific debate that Schoch started with these conclusions will be dissatisfied, as Schoch fails to acknowledge the inconsistencies in his findings (which can be found in Paul Jordan's "Riddles of the Sphinx," among other places), or viable alternative hypotheses, such as one I have seen mentioned on the web that accounts for the Sphinx' characteristic weathering via a model involving its burial in waterlogged sand. Nevertheless, it is this conclusion that Schoch uses as a springboard to consider the possibility of lost civilizations of greater antiquity than Egypt or Sumer, and (more importantly) the concomitant possibility that such civilizations were destroyed by worldwide cataclysms triggered by cometary impacts.
The book is sprinkled throughout with genuine, if most often highly speculative, science, and this distinguishes Schoch's efforts from those of pseudoscientific cranks like Graham Hancock or Rand Flem-Ath. So, for example, Schoch visits the superficially strange underwater "monolith" near Yonaguni, but unlike many (and, most likely, unlike Hancock, who is currently writing a book that will deal with Yonaguni and other underwater "monuments") he concludes that the structure is most likely a product of natural forces of erosion, as evidenced by the processes that can be observed on the beaches of Yonaguni now. Similarly, the notion of "polar shift" first proposed by Charles Hapgood and currently championed by Flem-Ath and Hancock is dealt with summarily here. In these parts of the book, it is refreshing to see a genuinely scientific approach being taken to questions that to date have been given only the most sensationalized and credulous of treatments.
Schoch's approach occasionally falters. Immediately after determining that the Yonaguni "monument" shows erosion and weathering consistent with what is happening naturally on the beaches today, he mentions the fact that this does not altogether rule out the possibility that human hands did have a role in shaping it. In the concluding paragraphs of this chapter, Schoch's narrative suddenly veers away from his scientific perspective as he incorporates a manmade Yonaguni monument into speculative and nearly baseless notions of ancient civilizations existing on the now submerged coasts of Ice Age-era antiquity. Although the possibility of extensive neolithic cultures that have been erased by sea-level rises since the last Ice Age is a real one (see Stephen Oppenheimer's "Eden in the East" for a fair summary of the evidence for this), Schoch completely forgets that he has no evidence whatsoever for a human influence on Yonaguni, and plentiful evidence for natural processes.
Even with such slips, "Voices" is a worthwhile read for anyone looking for a more reasoned and less sensationalized perspective on the question of lost civilizations, the legend of Atlantis and the "facts" that might underlie it, and the possibility that cometary impacts have had profound effects on the course of human history.
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