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WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT ... CHILD TRAINING

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I'm a 43 year old father of four young ones, and was not raised with disciplined training or self-control. Consequently, my opinion of and confidence in my parenting abilities have always been poor; being evidence with poor fruit.

I'm well familiar with the famous/infamous "Pearls" - Michael and Debbi - of Nogreaterjoy notoriety. We got involved with their writings when my children were very young - and had extremely poor results with them. So much so that I basically kicked Michael and Debbi out of my house, and turned my back on the whole corrective/chastisement process of child training. (And for this reason, I do not recommend their writings to young parents just starting out. Both Michael and Debbi do not present Biblical chastisement clearly enough to prevent many well-intentioned parents from making dreadful mistakes; akin to giving a loaded weapon to an untrained 4 year old.)

But just because the Pearls have communication issues doesn't mean corrective child training can be ignored. The problem for so many - myself front and center - is the improper application of it. If a person doesn't understand or have a good heart about using a rod or stick to physically switch or "correct" their child, it would be best if they used something else - as ineffective as it may be. As important, essential, and vitally necessary corrective child-training is, it will make a situation much much worse if misapplied. (And very few of these child-training writers stress that enough, IMHO.)

But don't be misled: children *must have* pressure applied to their wills in order to guide their behavior into accepted channels. The person who thinks their child can be self-trained, or that a child is trained simply by being around a kind and gentle person is vastly fooling him/her self. Unless a child is forcefully corrected, his/her sin nature will plot a invariably self-destructive course.

Here is what God actually says about corrective training:

Psalms 89:30-33, "If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail."

(Please understand: God's ways are eternal. He does not change His mind like we do.)

Proverbs 13:24, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Proverbs 22:15, "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Proverbs 23:13-14, "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

Proverbs 29:15, "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."

The Apostle Paul warns erring Christians: 1 Corinthians 4:21, "What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?"

For some to conclude that God does not advocate physical chastisement in His Word are most surely deceived. The teaching is clear, unequivocal, and without apology. ONLY in the last century has their been any serious challenge to this, (and we are all seeing its resultant fruits.) Its amazing that so many professed Christians are so completely in rebellion about what the Bible VERY plainly teaches.

Mr. Fugate not only explains the necessity of parental authority, but he also lays out the reality of what a child is, what child training is and is not, and how essential it is that every child be absolutely under the rule and authority of his/her parents in every respect. *Any deviation* from parental rules and standards is defiance and open rebellion. If it is not corrected, not only will the child suffer a willful and self-pleasing lifestyle, his soul is at risk of eternal damnation, (Profession of Christian salvation or no.) It surely is that serious.

Here is my advice to young parents: if you were raised foolishly and you have major self-centered problems, don't expect them to go away overnight. You yourself need major training yourself. Parenting requires a lot of patience, and its easy to not know how much discipline is necessary to successfully train a child. My experience is that God's mercy is tremendous, and a lot of mistakes can be made without permanent damage to the young child. (Contrary to pop-psychological beliefs, a child is not "permanently scarred" by a bad experience or two. God has designed us to be amazingly resilient.)

There are hundreds of child-training books out there, and while I have not read all of them, (nor do I intend to,) I know a good one when I see it. This book is a winner. I wholeheartedly endorse Mr. Fugate and his ability to clarify both the importance and means of successful Biblical child-training. Physical chastisement is only one facet of the whole. Without genuine love and interest for your children, all the chastisement in the world won't produce a happy soul.

And for those wise in their own conceits, rejecting God's command to chasten with a rod; their children may yet curse them to their face for not having loved them enough to deliver their souls from hell. (Proverbs 23:13-14, Proverbs 13:24) Fare thee well, friend.

A self-controlled child = an overcoming Adult.

The one star reviews here are the reason why we have record numbers of children either in jail or dead due to Un Godly Behavior.

These people grossly mis-state mr Fugates explanation of the scripture on the Rod. He did not write what they purport in their reviews.

Mr Fugate did not write this stuff...God did.. that is if you believe God wrote the Bible or you believe it is at least God inspired.

Read revelation and you will not have to imagine Jesus striking someone. He tells you he is going to do it. He came here the 1st time to fullfill the scriptures, not abolish them. He came to lead by example. To tell you how you should live. He did not abolish any scriptures, including those that tell you to use the rod to chasten your children and admonish you to correctly use of the rod.

I bought this book in 1992. I had a newborn a 2 year old and a 4 year old at this time.

Best investment I ever made.

Every Christian School our children has ever been in I have always heard nothing but kudos about our childrens behaior. They are now 13, 15 and 17. It has also has caused them to have self discipline and excel in their studies. The earlier a child learns that discipline eminates from love to inpire obedience in them and to respect authority, the better off everyone is.

After 1-2 years of consistant application of these principle I NEVER have had to use ANY kind of force with them. Why? Because they learned Love and Obedience from the rod.

I have also been in public places, the beach, restraunts, amuesment parks and had people walk up to me and compliment me on my childrens behavior.

As Mr fugate correctly points out... the only persons intended to discipline child are the parents, grandparents, god impowered authorities and God. Parents must take on this charge and not leave it to strangers.

Mr Fugate relates what the the scripture says, to lay "stripes" on your child with a rod. It does not say pummel them or leave bruises. Just enough force to make the child feel it and regret his behavior. It says to leave stripes (red marks not bruises, which will go away in less than an hour if you administered properly.)

He also states to use the rod in cases of absolute rebellion.

But as far as infants... even babies can rebel, any parent knows that, and yes you can even start to discipline at that age. Of course common sense tells you dont need to use much force, and dont need to leave stripes at this age. All I had to do is say NO and tap their little hand.

This book is for anyone who has read the Bible cover to cover (or willing to read the bible like any other book, not piecemeal, creating doctrine that one wants to create to justify their own beliefs) willing to accept what it says, not what they want it to say.

Give it a try

This book is biblical. Every point he makes is backed by scripture. Those who say it isn't I believe are too wrapped up in the world to see the truth. Sheparding a Child's heart is also a great book but doesn't go as indepth as this book.

This book does not teach you to beat your child. It teaches you to lovingly discipline them. If you are using the rod in anger you are wrong and are sinning.

Get Dr. Spocks mumbojumbo out of your brain. That book came out in the 1940's and look what sort of generation it produced? The 60s was the beginning of the loss of respect for the parent and autority.

I would also like to say that this book is biblical truth. My husband and I are training our children this way and we know it leads to a peaceful home with happy children. Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Fugate for being bold and keep printing it for future generations. Also, I would like to recommend the other titles by Virgina and Richard Fugate .

If you don't want to know what the bible says about child training, then look for another book. This is by far the very best book I have read on child training!

The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself brings his mother to shame. Proverbs 29:15

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Prov. 22:15

Those who accuse Christians of wanting to "beat" their children are blind in their foolishness. There is a huge difference between beating a child and chastening a child! The main difference is anger. Using the principles of this book removes anger and frustration from parenting! Anyone who disciplines in anger is wrong! You will not teach a child anything being angry. The bible places anger right up there with fornication. It is WRONG!

If more parents stopped the yelling and followed what the bible says about parenting, there would be peace and harmony in the home. There would be less young people in prison because as a child they would have learned from their parents to respect authority.

As a Parent you will answer to God one day and if you choose to turn your back on what God says or claim the bible is old information, you will answer for your own foolishness.

God says the Bible is timeless. His word is as powerful today as it was when it was first given. It will remain as powerful throughout eternity.

We live in a Godless society where people proclaim Jesus with their mouth but their heart is far from him. I know many don't realize this about themselves, I was one of them. Seek God and He will provide you with the wisdom. Prayerfully read this book setting aside your own preconceived opinions and God will convict you of its truth.

This is a very well documented book and I am so thankful Mr. Fugate took the time to write this book to share with a generation that wants their ears tickled with what they want to hear, not what the bible really says.

This book is very important for parents to understand the proper training and bringing up of children. It will help those parents that are sick and tired of the "Worlds" way do raising children. It will help new christian parents to change their parenting style to be more godly. It will help "old" christians to realize how much of the world has crept into their homes. This is a must read for anyone who has a "strong-willed" child, a child labled as ADD, ADHD, and other sicknesses.

Win back the hearts of your children today - don't let the devil have them - read this book and change your ways.

as a pagan I am often accused of ritual abuse, child abuse etc by "commited Christians" such as this author. This book should be banned and every copy destroyed. there is no need for beating a child in this day and age, whether in the name of God, Jesus, Allah, Shiva or Isis. Appalling and disgusting. Please amazon...STOP SELLING THIS BOOK.

This book is not about true Christian parenting. It is about force, conditioning, and programming with pain and fear. It's filled with harmful advice and is inconsistent in what it professes. Stay far away from this book and buy something written by Alice Miller instead. I would give this book 0 stars if it were possible.

I made the link from a website that is opposed to any form of physical punishment of a child. They give a few pages from the book, highlight the most offensive parts in their opinion and ask that the reader links here and gives a negative review, so technically, many of these reviewers have never even read the book. On this particular book, I found it very informative. It gives Bible verses in support of corporal punishement. It also warns about misusing chastisement, abuse, humiliating your children, etc. I found the information Biblical, loving, concerned for the welfare of children, and reasonable. Many of these reviews likely misrepresent this book...the site calls it a baby-torture manual- Totally irrational.

Do we really look at the world around us, the state of the public school system and the ungrateful children there as healthy? I suppose parents don't want to be responsible and therefore don't see why children need to be?
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As for me and my house, we realize that it takes a great deal of energy and commitment to lovingly raise children. I am a very educated, post-graduate degreed person and I tried diligently to parent with all the creative, liberal mumbo jumbo methods I educated myself on. And my child was an unhappy, holy terrorist to homes, restaraunts and other children. Finally, I got a real advice--from the Bible. I read "Child Training Tips" by Reb Bradley and then this book. I had no idea there was so much advice on child-rearing in the Bible. But there is, and let me testify that by implementing rational, firm discipline, my child has made a complete turn around. She is happy, well-mannered, well-adjusted, kind and thankful. A small paddle to the bottom for reasonable reasons is far less cruel than letting a child grow up to be an irresponsible, ungrateful adult...
People are so far out in left field about corporal punishment. I was spanked exactly five more than well-deserved times as a child and my respect for my mother thereafter kept me a very well-behaved, responsible young lady and a woman with good social skills and a responsible social attitude...
This is a good book. Don't be scared to do the right thing.