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Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen

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Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen is, in my opinion, one of, if not the, greatest musical works in history. It is fifteen hours of gorgeous, dramatic music, coupled to an endlessly fascinating and moving story. Needless to say, every recording of this gigantic work is going to be flawed in some way, so choosing a Ring recording is a question of personal tastes and preferences. While Solti's 1958-65 Vienna cycle is by far the most famous and popular, it is not the one I like the best. Herbert von Karajan's cycle, recorded from 1966 to 1970, is the best cycle I have ever heard. First and foremost, Karajan's conducting is almost perfect. He is both more lyrical (some moments in the cycle are astoundingly beautiful) and more dramatic (he makes thrilling use of the timpani in the big scenes) than his rivals, through his complete knowledge and mastery of Wagner's orchestral techniques and balances. This recording makes you realize how ingenious a composer Wagner was: 120 musicians playing as one, intertwining melody and harmony to produce one glorious whole. Karajan allows the orchestra their full sonority and tone-color but never drowns out or abandons the singers. He is helped by the fact that his orchestra, the Berlin Philharmonic, is the best in the world, even better than Solti's Vienna Philharmonic. These Berliners are so magnificent it takes your breath away. Added to this, the singers are in many cases preferable to Solti's - or other rivals. Helga Dernesch, in particular, is a revelation as Brünnhilde. Like Nilsson, she has a rich, powerful voice, but unlike Nilsson, her voice is warm and beautiful. She has a contralto-like fullness at the bottom of her range (a few years after she made this recording, she became a dramatic mezzo), a steady, beautiful middle register, and a glorious, radiant, powerful top. She has crystal clear diction and is such a convincing actress that the listener feels s/he is listening to Brünnhilde herself, not a singer. Unfortunately, she only appears in Siegfried and Götterdämmerung; Régine Crespin, the Walküre Brünnhilde, is an intelligent singer, but possesses nowhere near as magnificent an instrument as does Dernesch. Just as there are two Brünnhildes, there are also two Siegfrieds. In the third opera, Jess Thomas is excellent. He has a voice of unusually fine quality: rich and baritonal at the bottom and middle but ringing at the top. The only drawback is that his voice is a bit smaller than desirable, and he sometimes gets hoarse. Still, it is a commanding, colorful performance, and his singing in the love duet is very beautiful. In Götterdämmerung, Siegfried is sung by the vastly underrated Helge Brilioth. His voice is larger and even more beautiful than Thomas's. I wish he had sung Siegfried, too, but it Thomas isn't bad at all. Wotan is halved, as well. Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is tested by the Rheingold Wotan, but he passes the test with flying colors, creating a detailed portrait of the ambitious, selfish god. Thomas Stewart, in the other two operas, is even better. Even though Hans Hotter is both richer and more beautiful of voice and more detailed of portrayal, Fischer-Dieskau and Stewart present magnificent Wotans. Zoltan Kelemen as Alberich is all you could ask for - sinister, cruel, ambitious and evil. The bass roles are split between Martti Talvela (Fasolt, Hunding) and Karl Ridderbusch (Fafner, Hagen). Ridderbusch at first might seem an odd choice for Hagen, because his voice is dark and thunderous, but not black and menacing. However, this adds another dimension to his masterful portrayal of the incredibly evil villain - an evil nobility - that makes his performance that much more compelling. He is a fabulous Hagen. He sings Fafner vividly and Talvela makes the most of his two roles. Jon Vickers is splendidly heroic and lyrical as Siegmund, and Gundula Janowitz uses her gorgeous, radiant lyric soprano to produce a beautiful Sieglinde and Gutrune. Oralia Dominguez is beautiful as Erda, and the Rhinemaidens, Valkyries and Norns are all excellent. Josephine Veasey is a bitingly intense Fricka, and Gerhard Stolze sings Loge and the Siegfried Mime with amazing powers of characterization. DG's remastering for its Originals series is extremely successful: the sound is natural and there is almost no tape hiss. The packaging is extremely beautiful, worthy of this masterful recording. When all is said and done, a fair listener is likely to conclude that of all the available Ring Cycles, this Karajan cycle is the one to buy.

If fate had it that Furtwangler were to live slightly longer, I would have relied on the conductor's great skill to conduct a Ring that will rule all other subsequent recordings of the opera. Unfortunately, his La Scala Ring, despite the casting of great Wagner veterans and a marvelously conducted orchestra, has several cuts plus not very good sound. His RAI ring, on the other hand, boasts better sound, but slightly inferior singers and a less than adequate orchestra. For me, I think the most important aspect in Wagner, much more so than the singers, is the orchestra itself. Most of the trilogy (Wagner coined it as such, desiring for Das Rheingold to be a prelude) is dominated by long, flowing stretches of music, and if you don't have a great conductor with an amazing orchestra to guide you, then you will be sorely disappointed. Furtwangler was a magnificent Wagner conductor, and he knew the art of "epicizing" the Ring to the fullest extent, unlike Solti who saw it as a vehicle for bombast and musical chaos. The only drawback is...Furtwängler DIED.

If we looked back into history and saw the relationship between Furtwangler and a certain K who was soon to take over the Berlin Philharmonic upon the aging conductor's death in 1954, we would find it quite hilarious that Wilhelm and K had a thick cloud of tension hovering in betweent them. Furtwangler loathed K with a passion, and he would never refer to him by name, using the phrase "that man K." Surely, there was something in this K that made the great Wagnerian Furtwangler feel threatened in the podium. And you know what? There was.

I think beyond any other Wagnerian conductor in history, Karajan made the greatest impression on the recordings and performances he conducted during his lifetime. Karajan knew the dynamics of a Wagnerian orchestra perfectly and used this to his advantage to create a cascading waterfall of some of the world's greatest music. His Tristan und Isolde, in my opinion, surpasses Furtwangler's recording in many aspects. His Meistersinger reigns supreme, his live Tannhauser is a revelation, his Parsifal truly is a mystical recording to behold, his Dutchman highly energizing, and most of all, his Ring, without a doubt, is the most beautiful and most moving trilogy I've ever heard.

It took me a great length of time upon which Ring I must herald as the greatest, because surely, Solti, Furtwangler, Krauss, Knappertsbusch, Böhm, and many others had a say on this epic. None of them though, except Furtwängler, could be placed beside Karajan in his great vision of what is considered to be the greatest work of art in the history of music. Many would praise the Solti Ring as a classic, and on this matter I would concede with the majority. He does create a great Ring, but I cannot agree entirely with his vision. The music doesn't flow like the way I think it should, and if you were to compare Karajan's work with Solti's, there is no parallel. Karajan's cast is just as seasoned as Solti's and in many ways surpasses them in interpretation. His brilliant choice of the youthful Crespin and the sexy, voluptuous-sounding Dernesch as his Brunnhildes creates a shifting portrayal of the woman and the warrior and the lover that is our favorite Valkyrie, and both singers display more emotion than Birgit Nilsson does. Jess Thomas suits the young, brash Siegfried, while Helge Brilioth recreates a mature, more insightful hero in the Gotterdammerung Siegfried. Dieskau is a marvel as Wotan, in the rank of London, while the highly underrated Stewart, in my opinion, is musically and interpretively, the equal of Hotter. Gundula Janowitz is a marvel as Sieglinde, the greatest I've ever heard, and Jon Vickers is the most touching Siegmund on record. Christa Ludwig gives an even better portrayal of Waltraute (and her second Norn is amazing!) than in Solti's recording. Gerhard Stolze gives a greater interpretation of the Mime, and Karl Ridderbusch and Zoltan Kelemen make their bass roles extremely believable. The minor roles of the Valkyries and the Rhine Maidens all receive amazing singers. It is indeed a great cast, and in many ways surpasses that of Solti's use of veteran singers past their prime. In my opinion, Karajan's cast gives a most human and moving portrayal.

Many would disagree with me in agreeing with Herbert's vision for this grand opera. I think that for theater to exist, the music must come first to create that certain atmosphere which makes the element come to life. Solti may have some of the best singers, but his tempo lacks the fluidity of Karajan. He has a great recording in his hands, but then I would prefer Karajan for the atmosphere he creates. So they say that Karajan lacks a sense of theater and goes only for the surface beauty of the work. He does create a Ring brimming with surface beauty, but if you listen to his music attentively, you will find that within each bar, each orchestral nuance, there is a deeper philosophical meaning that Wagner intended to bring out of the great Teutonic legend, and I think Karajan achieved that vision.

If I were to choose only one Ring, I would buy either this and Solti's, and thankfully I have both. If I were to look for another Ring though, I would steer you towards the great live recordings of the past. The silver medal would go to the 1966 Bayreuth Ring so marvelously conducted by Karl Böhm with a very similar cast. Levine's recording with the Met Orchestra is another ode to beauty and great singing, and you'll probably never hear a more convincing, more carefully sculpted picture of Wotan than James Morris. Never mind the inconsistencies in Behrens' magnificent yet underpowered Brünnhilde or Goldberg's sometimes focused Siegfried. Everyone else in that Ring is excellent. But you really must listen to the beauties of Furtwängler's Rings from La Scala and RAI. Still, Karajan's Ring is a great Ring, full of transparency and beauty that I wouldn't part with it.

Karajan disliked his work on the ring to be referred to as Kammermusik and rightly so. I think he has managed to portray a very smart approach to this enormous work. Rather than try to impress with a hugely blasting orchestra - he keeps the music transparent and dynamic. When selecting the Ring to buy last summer - I was initially tempted to buy the Solti, but in direct comparison with Karajan, I felt that the latter was far more subtle and transparent. Of course, Nilsen is impressive in e.g. Walkure, which I think has to do with the traditional interpretation of lead singers having to compete directly with the orchestra. I was already familiar with some of Karajan's great opera recordings (e.g. Tosca, La Boheme, Adia etc.) and was pleased to find out his tremendous feel for accompanying singers and maintaining orchestral balance was here as well. If you allow listening without prejudice or bias for 'tradition', this recording sounds very natural. I regret that the talent of Decca's John Culshaw was not available for this recording. Buy Solti if you are a great fan of some of the singers - but don't be overimpressed by his orchestration. Finally on the changing cast - Karjan was very deliberate on his selection of singers. In addition, I learned that the role of e.g. Wotan clearly changes as the Ring progresses and therefore different singers per part can be justifiable. Final selection tip: rather than listen to the whole thing - pick some favorite passages per part and compare two versions - it took me two hours to decide on the version to take.

The Ring discography is diverse and almost endless: Furtwangler, Krauss, Keilberth, Knappertsbusch, Kempe, Solti, Bohm, Karajan, Goodall, Boulez, Janowski, Levine, Haitink, Sawallisch, Barenboim, Zagrosek, etc. The classic mono recordings (from Furtwangler to Kempe) are essential to every die-hard Ring fan. Solti is the most famous one yet, and it's full of spectacular playing throughout. Bohm's live recording is also a big goodie: nothing else can match Bohm's fast pace and insightful conducting. Goodall's live English recording may not translate well to those who are looking for the original text, but the conductor's sharp attention to detail is worthy of mention. Haitink's intelligent reading is what makes his recording a good one; his singers, however, sadly heighten the flaw-o-meter. Whether it's lyrical or bombastic, every Ring is different from each other.

Karajan, for example, is one that's quite distinctive from all the rest. When hearing this Ring, one can see that it's more meditative than others. Unlike Solti and Bohm, who display tons and tons of energy in their recordings, Karajan uses much less energy to get his interpretation across. He uses a more lyrical, more chamber approach, and it turns out to be very interesting. The drama and the energy are replaced with the sheer beauty of the Ring. Almost everything in his Ring sounds very ethereal because of the superstar conductor's excessive use of lyricism. It's almost otherworldly, as though Wagner created this opera when looking at the clear night sky instead of looking at the Rhine River or the Norse paintings. The result is an interpretation that's hauntingly beautiful, and it may not be a good thing to those who are looking for a more exciting Ring. Some of the scenes, such as Wotan confronting Siegfried in person or Brunnhilde seeing Siegfried (as Gunther) for the first time, do not really work very well. They lack the colossal drama that is found in the Solti and Krauss Rings. But it's not a total loss. It is a very fascinating Ring, and it makes me imagine the story taking place in outer space (hey, that rhymes!).

Also worth of mention is the world-famous Berlin Philharmonic. The entire orchestra sounds polished, not to say that it is bad. Indeed the at least some of the drama is still there, but much of the required suspense is lacking (the scenes with Fasolt and Fafner come to mind). But alas, it's nothing serious, really. Berlin sounds more involved than the Vienna Philharmonic (Solti), and it's as delightful as and the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra (Levine). Woodwinds (especially the flutes) are amazing. The brass sometimes overpowers the strings, which can be a serious problem. Gotterdammerung Act Two Scene One sounds very mysterious, very eerie.

Now, the singers may not be as good as Bohm or Goodall, but heavy flaws are not part of this one. In this set, there are two Wotans, two Siegfrieds, and two Brunnhildes. This may be quite bothersome to some, but I think you'll get the hang of it once you listen to it for the fourth time in a row. Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau plays Wotan in Rheingold, while Thomas Stewart replaces Fischer-Dieskau in Walkure and Siegfried. I don't think Fischer-Dieskau was a good choice; he sounds too humane and too light. Stewart makes an astounding improvement in both Walkure and Siegfried. Regine Crespin is without a doubt one of the finest Brunnhildes after Birgitt Nilsson. She's fantastic in Walkure Act Three. I just wish she stayed on as the Valkyrie later on in the Ring (Helga Dernesch is no good in Siegfried and Gotterdammerung, sorry to say).

Jon Vickers and Gundula Janowitz are almost perfect as Siegmund and Sieglinde. Janowitz sounds youthful and innocent, just what Sieglinde should be. Jon Vickers sounds poetic and heroic, just what Siegmund should be. Their duet in the end of Walkure Act One, should not be missed. Jess Thomas (Siegfried) and Helge Brilioth (Gotterdammerung) may not be as ideal as Windgassen, but they do know how to be a magnificent heldentenor. Thomas pulls it off with Act One and Three. I guess you can say that Zoltan Kelemen tries his best as Alberich throughout. He is not good in Rheingold, but he gets better in Siegfried and Gotterdammerung.

Gerhard Stolze is the creepiest Mime ever known to humankind. This dwarf outsings other Mimes on the market. When he sings "Die stucken! Das Schwert!" his anger and fear is the most effective to almost all Ring listeners. But of course, Stolze's truly unsettling caricaturing of Alberich's brother will catch on after repeated listening (Solti's recording is the better example). On the other hand, he is also easily one of the most entertaining Loges to listen to. He has the wit, the craftiness, and the untrustworthiness that the character deserves. His scenes in Scene Three are delightful.

Uh-huh, what can I say? Everyone else does a good job in this Ring recording. The giants (Martti Talvela and Karl Ridderbusch) probably had a darn good time recording this: they're a delight to the ears. Catherine Gayer as the forestbird sounds heavenly, while Josephine Veasey makes a stunning Fricka. Robert Kerns as Donner acts the part quite well, and Oralia Dominguez is one of the finest modern Erdas ever (along with Outrun Wenkel and Birgitta Svenden).

So, if you want a more personal, more "otherworldly" Ring, then this one should do the trick. But if you want a more intense and a more dramatic Ring, then Solti (studio) and Bohm (live) and Krauss (live mono) should do it.

Unlike seemingly everyone else who has written a review for this production of Wagner's "Ring," I know virtually nothing about opera. In fact, Karajan's 14-disc recording is the first opera I've ever listened to start-to-finish, so it's fair to say that I know nothing about opera. Needless to say, if you are a Wagnerite, I don't expect you to get very much out of this review.

Nevertheless, there are millions of Wagner neophytes out there just like me. And to them I say, to paraphrase Monty Burns, I know what I like, and I love this!

Other newbies should note -- Wagner's "Ring" is composed of four separate operas: Das Rheingold, Die Walkyrie, Siegfried, and Gotteramderung. (Well, sticklers will say that Das Rheingold is really a "prelude," not a full-fledged opera, but since it's well over two hours, to me it qualifies as an opera.) Each separate opera is performed on a separate night -- this is why a complete recording of the "Ring" takes 14 CDs and has the seemingly high sticker price.

In addition to the 14 CDs, this product comes with four separate booklets, each summarizing and commenting on each opera. These booklets also have a German-to-English translation of the lines -- be warned, for the opera is entirely in German. Apparently, a top-notch version of the "Ring" in English is anathema to many opera fans (although I wouldn't mind a try).

If you are also new to Wagner's "Ring," be advised that this music is powerful, dark stuff, and the story involves quite a bit of murder, sex, betrayal, and more murder. In other words, this isn't Mozart's "Magic Flute." The music is astounding, and you'll probably recognize some of the more famous stuff from movie soundtracks (in addition to the infamous use of "The Ride of the Valkyries" in Coppola's "Apocalypse Now," I finally figured out where half the great music from John Boorman's film "Excalibur" came from).

I came to the "Ring" through a friend who said that Wagner's "Ring" is one of those rare cultural events that everyone should experience at least once. After listening to the full recording, I can attest to the truth of her words. Whether this is the "best" production of Wagner's "Ring" I will leave to others. For the opera newbie like myself, it was a wonderful first experience, and I look forward to comparing different versions in the coming years.

It would be difficult to find two more dissimilar recordings of the same piece of music than the Karajan and Solti performances of the Ring. People tend to say great things about one and rather unfavourable comments about the other. I like them both, but if I had to live with just one of them, I would lean towards this one. Just for the record, as far as I can tell, the Decca pioneering set is in many ways the John Culshaw Ring, as he had creative control over the choices of singers, orchestra and conductor, not to mention the production of the audio effects. It turned out that Solti's interpretive approach fit in very well with his conception of how the Ring ought to sound on record. The rest is history. On the other hand, Karajan was for all intents and purposes the artistic director of this recording, with final authority on the choices of singers and how they executed the roles. These studio performances were made in conjunction with live performances at the Salzburg Festival, and Karajan wanted to have the best of both worlds by having all the participants working at a high emotional level, combined with the higher accuracy of execution in the finished recording. His Parsifal set was made in much the same fashion. I can only second guess that many of the audio effects on the Culshaw Ring were deliberately excluded from the Karajan Ring so as to avoid unfavourable comparison. Personally I think Culshaw had the right idea, based on the authority of the scores. But that is a judgment call.

As far as the merits of the conductors are concerned, I think Karajan is the better of the two. He has a clear advantage in phrasing transitional passages and maintaining the "unending" flow of melody, whereas Solti's recording has the odd pause here and there - such as the famous one right before the final statement of the Redemption motif at the very end of the Ring. Having read the scores of the last three operas, to the best of my knowledge there are no orchestral pauses or rests indicated anywhere unless a singer is carrying the whole drama at an important point (such as Wotan's exclamation of "Das Ende" during his Narration in Act II of Die Walkure). It is also worth noting that Karajan plays a forte orchestral passage more loudly when unaccompanied, and holds the orchestra back to some degree when there is singing. Solti takes a more consistent approach, which means that the singers have to sing even louder to be clearly heard. This hardly posed a challenge to Birgit Nilsson, who literally rose to the occasion, but the result was that the total volume of music at times became excessive - that is unless you prefer to hear it played and sung that way. It is my view that Karajan's orchestra did not suffer from a fundamental lack of power and this moderate softening of tone, combined with the conductor's better control of rhythm, produced more warmth, sensuality and expressiveness. Furthermore, the reasonable dynamic of the orchestra gave the singers better projection when singing at mezzo voce. As was the case with say Jon Vickers in Act I Scene III of Die Walkure, this made for some beautiful results.

The playing of the Berlin Philharmonic was superb. To be fair, so was that of the Vienna PO for Solti.

Space prevents a thorough commentary about the individual singers, but I do believe the casting of Thomas Stewart as Wotan in Walkure and also as Hagen in Gotterdammerung was very questionable. The choice of Jess Thomas in the title of Siegfried has come in for considerable criticism, for what it's worth I rather liked his performance, he sounds less of - shall we say - an oafish lout than usual. Suffice to say he is at the opposite end of the spectrum from the Lauritz Melchior style, which is not to imply any better or worse. This was Karajan's casting decision. He does sound younger than Helge Briloth in Gotterdammerung, and rightly so. I find Helga Dernesch as Brunnhilde more "feminine" than Nilsson, but still not quite ideal in terms of sheer strength. I liked Crespin in the same role in Walkure, sounding a bit more stately/godlike than Dernesch did later. I also agree with the casting of Fischer-Dieskau as Wotan in Rheingold, and the decision to go with Stewart, a bit older-sounding, in Walkure.

The sound quality, documentation and overall presentation has always been reasonably good. Taken as a whole, this remains a highly personal vision of Wagner's great work, one that is bound to enthrall some and annoy others. I suspect that was Karajan's intention all along.

I have owned five or six Ring cycles, and to me the Karajan has two unexcelled installments, the Walkure and the Rheingold. I've reviewed them separately so will only add that they leave Solti's equivalent operas in the dust for musicality and insight, not to mention the unparalleled Siegmund of Jon Vickers and the touching, very human Brunnhilde of Regine Crespin, both in the Walkure.

For his Gotterdammerung Karajan had a weak Siegfried in Helge Brilioth, but what could he do? Even Solti had to settle for the aging Windgassen, and beyond that there was no suitable heldentenor who could vocally manage the part. The Brunnhilde was a young Helga Dernesch, and she proved to be a real find, as witness the wonderful Isolde she later sang under Karajan on EMI. But it's also Karajan who lets down Gotterdammerung--his conducting at times seems rather glib, without enough searching for emotional depth. I imagine that his arch-rival Furtwangler will always take the palm. Still, this Gotterdammerung is the next best modern version after Solti's commadning one, which will probably never be surpassed. DG's remastering of the first CD sonics is a big improvement -- the digital edge is gone from the strings -- although sticklers will continue to be bothered by tape hiss.

The biggest disappointment in Karajan's cycle has always been the Siegfried, derided in its day for being too small-scaled, which it certainly is compared to the larger-than-life Solti. The Wotan here is the excellent Thomas Stewart, incisive, young-sounding, and in much better voice than Solti's woolly, wobbly Hans Hotter. But the title role is sung by an over-taxed Jess Thomas. Never a Heldentenor, Thomas needs a great deal of help from the microphones in the Forging Scene, but making him louder doesn't make him suond right--even the aging Windgassen sounds much heartier and more heroic for Solti. In his defense, Thomas sounds positively herculean compared to Reiner Goldberg on the Levine and Haitink cycles. And he does have his good moments when the music is softer and less demanding. Then his intrusive wobble and lack of vocal control aren't as hampering. Dernesch is fully up to Brunnhilde's awakening scene and sounds thrilling. Karajan is masterful in the orchestral parts, but we are still left with half a Siegfried in the end.

Altogether, I think a hybrid Ring cycle--Karajan's Rheingold and Walkure, Solti's Siegfried and Gotterdammerung--results in a spectacular tetralogy that no one will ever outshine. Don't let anyone talk you into the live Bayreuth cycle, also from the Sixties, under a brusque Karl Bohm. It isn't competitive musically or sonically, and in the middle of a lot of stage noise you hear basically the same singers that Solti used but in worse voice.

P.S. -- The Ring sweepstakes has had two recent additions that make a difference. Testament has released a setereo cycle from 1957 under the veteran Joseph Keilberth recorded by Decca but never considered worthy of release. It emerges as very well sung, particularly the Siegfried and Gotterdammerung. The price is quite high for each installment, however. In addition, Boulez's 1976 Bayreuth cycle, viewed by milions in its original video release, has been sonically reburbished by Philips at a bargain price and features many fine scenes, even if whole operas don't surpass Solti and Karajan.

Let me enter the 35-year debate over the Solti vs. Von Karajan recordings of the Ring. And let me first say we should be tremendously grateful for both. I have known Solti's for about 30 years. I more recently heard Von Karajan's. Other commentators on this Website have ably cited comparisons between the two in detail, and singer by singer. Let me offer a broader and simpler (hopefully not simplistic) comparison from the standpoint of an educated layman.

The difference between the two recordings is fundamentally one of romantic effect vs. restraint in the service of transparency. Solti pulls out all the stops and lavishes orchestral sound, louder dynamics, and relentless energy upon the listener--at the cost sometimes of obscuring some of the threads of the score. He does NOT, however, overwhelm the singers. Who could, with singers of the power of Nilsson and Windgassen?

But one does note a difference with Von Karajan, where the orchestra is more restrained, the balance between voices and orchestra more equal, and the various musical threads of the orchestral score more individually distinguishable. That transparency, however, comes at the cost of the unrestrained passion and drama which suffuses the Solti rendering. Von Karajan's is, in relative terms, a more academic approach. Take your pick. You will probably hear more of the details of the Ring from Von Karajan, but as an unabashed Romantic I prefer Solti. And I think he goes more to the essence of Wagner who, after all, was the supreme Romantic (if proto-modernist) composer.

As for singers in the two recordings, Solti has the edge. Dernesch as Von Karajan's Brunnhilde is a weak if warm-toned reed compared to the incomparable and thrilling (if steely-voiced) Nilsson. Hotter may have been past his prime as Wotan when he recorded for Solti, but the voice is still full and authoritative. Windgassen is a decent Siegfried for Solti...not thrilling to me, but fully the equal of Von Karajan's Siegfried.

As one of the commentators below noted, to achieve the ideal Ring one might best mix and match opera recordings rather than taking a full set from one production/conductor. If I had to choose, I would take the Solti Ring except for Die Walkure, where I believe the greatest recording ever made is that of Leinsdorf for RCA with a cast including Nilsson, Vickers, London, and an absolutely glorious Brouwenstijn as Sieglinde.

Bottom line: if you want a thorough hearing (and understanding) of the intricacies of Wagner's score, choose Von Karajan. If you want the guilty pleasure of overwhelming emotion and Romantic effect--which I believe to be the essence of Wagner-- go for Solti.

Here another thought of the endless Solti vs HvK debate: Solti offers theater, Karajan focuses on the music.

And in my opinion, it is the MUSIC that makes Wagner the genius that he is, not the story. Feel free to disagree, but I can find no comparable satisfaction than hearing the majestic Berlin Philharmonic of the late 1960s in all their shine and glory on forteen CDs from the first Rheingold- to the last Goetterdaemmerung notes. There is nothing like it; I don't know any orchestra that offers the same sonority, beauty and eventually authority in playing Wagner than the Berlin Phil during the golden HvK days. Not even the Wiener come close.

The engineering is excellent, and the details of the fabric of the Wagnerian sound ideals are celebrated in every detailed note.

If you prefer music to theater, this is the one.

There was a question by an earlier reviewer about why this Ring was not recorded 'live'. Simple answer : funding problems!! Karajan was doing the Ring (not as a complete cycle but over 4 seasons - 1 year Walkure, 1 year Rheingold, 1 year Siegfried and 1 year Gotterdammerung) at both the Salzburg Festival and the Met. The big problem was paying for the productions. The subscription sales and his own money was not enough. Karajan didn't want sponsorship because he wanted to be beholden to as few people as possible. Moving the production to the Met (under Rudolf Bing's invitation) only served to increase the financial problems. By recording The Ring in advance of each new production with DG, Karajan was able to get around this financial problem. DG did not want to get involve but they wanted a Ring cycle from Karajan to compete against Solti's Decca set. So they had to comply with Karajan's wishes.

This Ring cycle is great. Orchestral playing is superb and Karajan's chamber music approach works in its own way. But seriously, the biggest setback is that the set is undercast. Crespin brought warmth and feinity to the Walkure but she lcaked the resources to deal tackle Siegfried or Gotterdammerung. Christa Ludwig would have made a superb Brunnhilde in Siegfried but she withdrew because she was afraid of damaging her vocal cords. She was replaced by Helga Dernesch, who is great in her own ways. Perhaps she fits in with the Karajan chamber music approach. But seriously, if you want effortless heroism, she cannot compete with Birgit Nilsson. The Siegfried in Siegfried is woefully inadequate. Of course, the plus points include Jon Vicker's Siegmund and Janowitz's Sieglinde. But a Ring without an iron-voiced Brunnhilde like Birgit Nilsson is no fun. And Wolfgand Windgassen is incomparable in the Solti and Bohm set. Besides, James King in the Solti and Bohm set is equally magnificent as Sigemund. Rysanek is thrillingly intense as Sieglinde in Bohm's set and Crespin is wonderfully beautiful as Siegline in Solti's set.

At the end of the day, the Ring is a massive operatic masterpiece. Solti, Karajan or Bohm would work perfectly as a first choice. They are all superb. However, if you want the set with the best cast overall, the dream cast that is so elusive, you have to get the Solti set. Birgit Nilsson is better recorded in the Bohm set and the Bohm set has it's own unique electricity. Karajan's is more refined. So depending on what you want in your Ring, you buy accordingly. Pressed to make a final recommendation, I would have to choose the Solti.