Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen--Great Scenes / Solti

Richard [Classical] Wagner (Composer), Georg Solti (Conductor), Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra (Orchestra), Berit Lindholm (Performer), Birgit Nilsson (Performer), Brigitte Fassbaender (Performer), Claudia Hellmann (Performer), Eberhard Wächter (Performer), George London (Performer), Gerhard Stolze (Performer), Gottlob Frick (Performer), Hans Hotter (Performer), Helen Watts (Performer), Helga Dernesch (Performer), Hetty Plumacher (Performer), Ira Malaniuk (Performer), Kirsten Flagstad (Performer), Marilyn Tyler (Performer), Oda Balsborg (Performer), Set Svanholm (Performer) | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Performer: Berit Lindholm, Birgit Nilsson, Brigitte Fassbaender, Claudia Hellmann, Eberhard Wächter, et al.
• Orchestra: Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
• Conductor: Georg Solti
• Composer: Richard [Classical] Wagner
• Audio CD (May 12, 1998)
• Number of Discs: 1
• Label: Decca
• ASIN: B000006P4T
• In-Print Editions: MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #256,109 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
  • #18 in Music > Classical > Opera & Vocal > Divas > Nilsson, Birgit

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19 of 21 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars The Best of the Best!!, October 8, 2000

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This review is from: Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen--Great Scenes / Solti (Audio CD)

When I first bought this recording more than 10 years ago under an earlier release, I did not like opera. I had briefly heard excerpts from Solti's orchestral version of the CD and was amazed at the power of the music. I thought I was buying that orchestral version when I bought this recording. I am glad I made that mistake. Solti was not able to re-create the same energy in his orchestral version, which was recorded many years after this CD. Though at first I did not like the singing, it eventually grew on me, and now this CD is one of my favorites of all genres of music. The first track, "Entry of the gods into Valhalla," mesmerizes and shocks as the growing loudness and excitement in the orchestra culminates in a VERY loud anvil strike. I had never heard anything like this before in classical music. I have listened to many other recordings of that section since and nothing has equaled it in effect. It is hard to imagine that the recordings on this disc were made 40 years ago. Though you can hear some of the source-tape hiss on the recording, it's presence is minimized by the wide dynamic range of the performance. Furthermore, the singing is top-rate. Birgit Nilsson's performance during the "Immolation Scene" is nothing less than stellar. It seems effortless for her to produce the power and range to soar above the massive orchestra underneath. If there is any CD to introduce someone to the power and drama of Wagner and opera, this is it!

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3.0 out of 5 stars Karajan and Solti: comparative review of "bleeding chunks", July 13, 2011

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Alexander Arsov - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen--Great Scenes / Solti (Audio CD)

Please note that the following refers to a twofer with "bleeding chunks" from Solti's "Ring" which, inexplicably, is not available on Amazon.com, even though it is on Amazon.de. The track list of the twofer is as follows:

Disc: 1

Das Rheingold
1. Prelude and First scene
2. Entry of the Gods into Valhalla

Die Walküre
3. Winterstürme wichen dem Wonnemond (Siegmund, Sieglinde)
4. Ride of the Valkyries
5. Wotan's Farewell & Magic Fire Music

Disc 2

Siegfried
1. Forging Scene
2. Forest murmurs

Götterdämmerung
3. Siegfried's Rhine Journey
4. Siegfried's Funeral March
5. Immolation Scene

Wiener Philharmoniker
Georg Solti

Birgit Nilsson (Brünnhilde), Wolfgang Windgassen (Siegfried), Hans Hotter (Wotan, Die Walküre), George London (Wotan, Das Rheingold), James King (Siegmund), Régine Crespin (Sieglinde), Gustav Neidlinger (Alberich), Gerhard Stolze (Mime), Set Svanholm (Loge)

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The best thing about such highlights is that they give quite an excellent overview when it comes to what is worth acquiring and what is not in terms of complete recordings. The "Ring", especially, being a work of immense proportions, is a solid thing to buy and I would hardly do so without sample some "bleeding chunks" first. I have been introduced to the "Ring" thus, only it was a one-disc selection that comes from the complete recording with Karajan. Since I am incredibly fascinated by the work, I thought I should like to hear another recording of it that illustrates an altogether different approach. The first that came to my attention was of course the most legendary one.

The next few lines are by no means a comprehensive review even of this set of highlights. Nor are they comparison of the type ''who's better than whom''. All they attempt to explain is why after hearing Karajan's "bleeding chunks" I rushed to get hold of the complete recording and why I didn't do the same about Solti's "Ring", and finally decided not to buy the set at all (unless you have some old copy you're willing to get rid of for a few bucks). Of course it is rash to make conclusions for a complete recording of 14 hours after hearing only two and a half of them, but I daresay it is not so unreasonable.

I may start by saying that I simply don't understand all the hype around Solti's "Ring" and I do think its historical significance, which is completely indisputable, tends to obscure its weaknesses. I have seen Solti, Culshaw and the cast extolled to the skies a great many times. As it turned out, it is not nearly as heavenly as that.

To begin with Solti's conducting, it is quite impressive - sound-wise. Indeed, Solti (and Culshaw as producer, and Parry as engineer) simply blow Karajan away in terms of powerful sound. It's not often that I hear Karajan's sound with the Berliner Philharmoniker from the late 1960s blown away but that is the case here. But power is not the whole of Wagner. If you think it is, then Solti's "Ring" is definitely your Ring: it is massive, heroic and frenetic, with blaring brass that is guaranteed to blow you away together with the arm-chair you're sitting in. I don't know why Solti's admirers get offended when the conducting of their idol is described as "bombastic". It is as obvious as it could be - listen to the climaxes during the "Entry into Valhalla" and "Wotan's Farewell". But this is not necessarily a bad thing; this is just Solti's view of Wagner. And it must be stressed that he is not so lacking in lyrical qualities as is often pointed out, although he certainly does nothing to emphasize them. And this is just another proof that is not only possible for a great masterpiece to have radically different interpretations, but it is indeed inevitable.

Now comes Karajan and the famous "chamber style approach" that was invented by some mentally deficient critics. Karajan himself detested the description - and rightly so. To my mind, such description simply states that the brass does not blare and obscure the strings regularly and climaxes flow more smoothly than you can imagine. Otherwise the sound is stupendous in terms of dynamic range and clarity, by no means does it lack power. But the sound of a conductor is just like the style of a writer: if he has nothing interesting to say with it, he is done. And here comes the miracle, because Karajan's attention to detail (hear the timpani, in Siegfried's "Funeral March" for instance), his tempo fluctuations, his ability for building dramatic tension and stunning climaxes (hear "Wotan's Farewell") are something miraculous indeed. In comparison to all that, Solti sounds positively brash, rash and, occasionally, even cheap and vulgar. Karajan's Ring may not be so heroic and so powerful as Solti's, but it is not a bit less dramatic, far more lyrical and a great deal more insightful at the same time.

An ideal illustration for Karajan's subtlety which Solti generally lacks is, ironically, the most famous part of the "Ring": "The Ride of Valkyries". Solti not only brings the brass much too forward but he sounds surprisingly clumsy. In contrast, Karajan never obscures the extremely important strings and he is much more sensitive to Wagner's modest thematic material but fertile imagination. Karajan creates a vision of Valkyries flying on their horses which matches Wagner's detailed stage directions to perfection. Solti brings the Valkyries down with a gusto and puts them on lame horses.

As for Culshaw's legendary sound effects that were supposed to recreate every detail from the action, I am not impressed with them at all, either. Wotan's spear hitting the rocks is fine, but Donner's hammer and the final destruction of Valhalla are distinctly unpleasant sensations. Instead of making the recording more real, they only make it more ridiculous and for my part I am rather happy that Karajan never went so far with these things. But the bigger problem is that, more often than not, the powerful sound of the orchestra obscures the voices and the text become unintelligible. This is another advantage of Karajan's recording: it has a far better balance between the voices and the orchestra, a kind of unity of sound you are not likely to find in Solti's recording where both parts are clear enough in themselves but don't mix too well. I suppose in the late 1950s, when "Das Rheingold" was the first of the four music dramas to be recorded, such a sound and such effects must have been a sensation. But they have aged badly.

But the greatest problem with Solti's "Ring" is not Solti himself (nor the presumptuous Culshaw for that matter). Whatever the details, Solti is still a great conductor, even if not exactly to my taste. He has something unique to say and he knows pretty well how to say it in a most effective way. Even though I would never prefer his conducting for my desert island exile, it remains towering achievement. And despite Culshaw's puerile passion for cacophony, on the whole the sonority and the clarity of the sound remain spectacular even today, some half a century after it was made.

The greatest disappointment in Solti's "Ring" is the cast. I am totally baffled when read descriptions like "the greatest cast ever" and such like. I have not listened to almost anything and am a Wagner as well as a "Ring" neophyte, but to my mind Karajan's singers are distinctly superior on almost all fronts. I am amazed that such cast is so often regarded as inferior, even when Karajan's conducting is considered masterful.

In my very humble opinion the only singers in Solti's "Ring" that are on par with Karajan's set, differences in interpretation and all, are Birgit Nilsson, Wolfgang Windgassen and Gustav Neidlinger. Nilsson doubtlessly has tremendous voice and she must have been there when the walls of Jericho fell; she is pretty much like Solti's conducting and hence a perfect complement to it. Coincidence or not, Karajan's Brünnhilde, Helga Dernesch, is just like the Maestro's conducting - warm, imaginative and subtle. Wolfgang Windgassen is a bit too lyrical perhaps, but to my mind quite convincingly so; the man has the voice and knows how to use it. He is quite different than any of Karajan's Siegfried's, Jess Thomas and Helge Brilioth, but an equally great pleasure to listen to. The most important difference is that Windgassen has never been underrated, as Thomas and Brilioth often are. As for Gustav Neidlinger, he is superb all right, but not a bit more so than Zoltan Kelemen, though rather different as both voice and interpretation.

It is interesting to note that Gerhard Stolze is the only singer who is on both recording and sings the same part. Significantly or not, as far as the "Forging Song" goes, he is certainly a more cunning and scheming Mime with Karajan than with Solti; in the latter set Stolze tends to overact his part a bit. Also, there are singers in the Solti's set that are just decent and reliable but nothing more, George London and James King for example. Both are quite dependable, but the former, though possessing a much more powerful voice, is no match for the brilliant dramatic inflection that Fischer-Diskau brings to the text, and the latter, though musical and lyrical enough, simply cannot hold a candle to the burning intensity of Jon Vickers as Siegmund.

Some small parts in Solti's Ring are downright appallingly sung, Froh (Waldemar Kmentt) and the Nightingale (Joan Sutherland?!) for instance, but in this category Set Svanholm gets the palm all right. How so incompetent, not to say terrible, a singer could have been included at... Read more ›

7 of 17 people found the following review helpful:

3.0 out of 5 stars A so-so performance of Wagner -- You can do better, May 19, 2001

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This review is from: Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen--Great Scenes / Solti (Audio CD)

This CD was a disappointment, maybe because the recording technology is rather dated and the excitement and presence of the music does not come through. Birgit Nilsson is, of course, spectacular.

A better selection can be found in the Panorama edition of "der ring des nibelungen" with von Karajan conducting. Karajan's interpretation is great, and Janowitz is the best Sieglinde ever recorded. Tracks 14 - 16 of the 2 CD Panorama set will take your breath away.