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4.0 out of 5 stars
Failure of command, April 27, 2010
This review is from: War Beneath the Waves: A True Story of Courage and Leadership Aboard a World War II Submarine (Hardcover)
There are 3 subjects in `War Beneath the Waves'. The first is the submarine `Billfish' and especially the 15 hour depth-charge that it endured, where the commanding officer was paralyzed with fear and the exec was unable to take charge. Charlie Rush took over and led the sub to safety.
The 2nd subject is the 60 year wait for the men who saved the ship to be recognized as the heroes they were, and receive some of the Navy's highest decorations.
The 3rd subject is life in a sub. If you have never been in the claustrophobic conditions that these vessels contain, you can and will appreciate how much these men endure.
These 3 stories are combined in a simple enough manner that anyone reading can understand the workings of the submarine, the engines, torpedoes, the problems of fumes, smells, food and water. There are horrendous examples of "loose lips", even a Congressman telling the newspapers how Japanese depth charges were not working. There is one of the best prologues with descriptions of men under depth charges and the results.
The caution of the author to not judge harshly for those of us sitting safe and secure is well taken; but the story will haunt those that know and respect military traditions and its' working discipline. The conditions of submarine warfare and life will haunt the reader too. This is a book that has served its' purpose to describe the men's heroism and the submarine service.
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19 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
Desperately Needs an Editor with a Submarine Background!, October 2, 2010
This review is from: War Beneath the Waves: A True Story of Courage and Leadership Aboard a World War II Submarine (Hardcover)
This review is from a submariner with 29 years of naval service.
The story of the events that led up to and including the afternoon of November 11th, 1943 are the focus of this story. It is a story long overdue in the complete telling. Author Don Keith came to this task with a fair reputation of authorship of books on submarine warfare (Final Bearing, Gallant Lady, Final Patrol), however, here he presents a flawed book. The essentials of the book may well be true, but there are so many mistakes that the credibility of the whole must be drawn into question. Some examples include the following:
* Page 27, quoting: "Destroyers, depending on their vintage and class, were about 350 feet in length, could travel very fast - 35 to 38 knots (65 to 70 miles per hour)"...any seaman knows that 35 knots is 40.3 mph.
* In another place author Keith states that a Japanese destroyer could not catch a surfaced submarine because the destroyer's top speed was 20 knots. Almost all Japanese destroyers could easily top 35 knots. It is true that some patrol boats (equivalent to USN sub chasers) may not have been able to exceed 20 knots, but a destroyer certainly could.
* On page 72 he says: "Admiral Ralph Christie, the Pacific fleet submarine commander, was a torpedo expert,"...the highest WWII submarine post held by Christie was Commander Submarines, Southwest Pacific. He was never the commander of Submarines, Pacific Fleet.
* He refers to a "peer review" of chief petty officer candidates by senior and master chiefs before there were SCPOs and MCPOs.
* He has a LT calling an enlisted man "Mister so and so." At this time in the Navy, enlisted men below chief petty officer were always referred to by their last name, especially by officers. Officers below commander were called "Mister so and so."
* The author unnecessarily (in my opinion) repeats in great detail the description of how a submarine battery operates.
* Helm orders are given incorrectly ("helm 45 degrees starboard"). Diesel submarine rudders are hard over at 35 degrees, and orders are normally given as "right hard rudder, right full rudder, or right 20 degrees rudder."
In summary, this is an important story that deserved telling. While the book is generally well-written, the editing was very poor. The mistakes above should have (would have been) found by a review by almost any submariner. The mistakes detract significantly from an otherwise good read.
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