I don't particularly see beauty in reading Hemingway's sun also rises. Not the joy I feel in reading Fitzgerald. I wonder if others feel this. Also I could use a little more insight into the characters, I feel almost as if Hemingway is attempting to keep the meaning from me. This said I do feel that there is much to think about in the story. Perhaps some insight can be got by looking to the character, the count, who states that he knows how to enjoy life, he shows this by his silence when he is drinking wine, he's enjoying it deeply, not talking about enjoying it. Jake says that he wants to know how to live life not know about it, and the count seems to be representitive of this. On the other hand the count who knows how to enjoy, is drawn to lady Ashley's beauty, as Jake is. Perhaps this forgives Jake his misdirected attraction to her. In the end Jake, learns an additional lesson, not of learning to enjoy the world but by learnings to live with the reality of his own desire. eminating, from himself and drawing him unhappily to ashely. The hemingway character is a bit hard boiled, a term he uses through out the novel, and it is difficult to see any success or resolution for him at the end of the novel. Has he learned to sublimate his desires into a imaginative area (the bull fights)? Is this a possible compromise with the reality he is handed. Is this the role of the artist, knowing the meaningless of the actual, the modern world, he is drawn to locate in imaginative sphere an approach to life? I don't know. Any one out there to give me a handle on this?
Well now, I stumbled on this apparently dead discussion and figured I'd add two-or-so cents of my own. _TSAR_ is my favorite Hemingway. It's the best example of his style, his subtle ability to say so much with so little. It also makes me jealous, to imagine the golden days of ex-pats in Europe, reshaping literature and trying to make sense of a war-wracked world. People had guts back then, and H. had the most of anyone. He did not write with clever symbolism or obscure references. He did not write to show off, or push an agenda. And he did not write more than he needed to write, which is actually the hardest thing to pull off. Rushdie described him once as America's most "feminine" writer, and I rather like the seeming paradox of that idea: The rugged, straight-talking sportsman that we imagine also had the closest thing that an old agnostic like me would call a soul. When you fall into his words, they are intuitive, organic, beautifully basic yet hiding an expansive depth... like a good meal. But I suppose I've gushed enough. Check 'im out, if you've yet to.
Yes Hemingway must be read in a certain manner. I enjoyed the part in the novel where the count is drinking wine and states, I know how to enjoy life, and though previously the main character states that he does not want to know about the meaning of life but how to live it, this count shows you. He says nothing, while everyone else around him talks. So the meaning is to actually exist not to talk about existence or think about it but to actually embrace it. but what does this say about Hemingway the Writer? Why does he choose to make his main character wounded. Is writing a way of dealing with his wounds?
Hemingway employs the 'Iceberg Theory' of writing in which he believed that he would write only the 'facts', and the important themes are then allowed to shine through on their own. I think the important clue to the heart of the novel, 'The Sun Also Rises', is that (in Hemingway's own words), "It's a book about a few drunks'. All of the characters are either drunk, talking about drinking, or waiting to get a drink, and this accounts for all of the superficial banter and foolish gossip. I'm not sure if it was his primary intention, but I feel that the novel is a superb profile of people in the grips of alcoholism without any insight into their predicament. Hemingway is only reciting the facts, and offers no reasons for the behavior that he documents. Drunks chatter, argue, believe in lofty theories, and fail to take responsibility for their actions just like the characters in the novel.
Drinking is a way of blocking the character's real feelings After WWI there was a great loss of hope The characters have all been traumatized. Think of the Odyssey where Odysseus takes ten years to find his way home. Jacob Barns knows that he will never find his way home. Alcohol is a way of covering his knowledge and loneliness. He only feels a connection with others who have been affected by the war and share his alienation. Cohan does not drink because he never experienced the war, and essentially lives in a different era, one of the past, one that Barnes and his kind no longer can believe in. It's a new world that one cannot bear, alcohol helps to deal with it.
Drinking is a way of blocking the character's real feelings After WWI there was a great loss of hope The characters have all been traumatized. Think of the Odyssey where Odysseus takes ten years to find his way home. Jacob Barns knows that he will never find his way home. Alcohol is a way of covering his knowledge and loneliness. He only feels a connection with others who have been affected by the war and feels his alienation. Cohan does not drink because he never experienced the war, an essentially lives in a different era, one of the past, one that Barnes and his kind no longer can believe in. It's a new world that one cannot bear, alcohol helps to deal with it.