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What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counter culture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry [Kindle Edition]

John Markoff
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Most histories of the personal computer industry focus on technology or business. John Markoff’s landmark book is about the culture and consciousness behind the first PCs—the culture being counter– and the consciousness expanded, sometimes chemically. It’s a brilliant evocation of Stanford, California, in the 1960s and ’70s, where a group of visionaries set out to turn computers into a means for freeing minds and information. In these pages one encounters Ken Kesey and the phone hacker Cap’n Crunch, est and LSD, The Whole Earth Catalog and the Homebrew Computer Lab. What the Dormouse Said is a poignant, funny, and inspiring book by one of the smartest technology writers around.

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Starred Review. Since much of the research behind the development of the personal computer was conducted in 1960s California, it might seem obvious that the scientists were influenced by the cultural upheavals going on outside the lab. Very few people outside the computing scene, however, have connected the dots before Markoff's lively account. He shows how almost every feature of today's home computers, from the graphical interface to the mouse control, can be traced to two Stanford research facilities that were completely immersed in the counterculture. Crackling profiles of figures like Fred Moore (a pioneering pacifist and antiwar activist who tried to build political bridges through his work in digital connectivity) and Doug Engelbart (a research director who was driven by the drug-fueled vision that digital computers could augment human memory and performance) telescope the era and the ways its earnest idealism fueled a passion for a computing society. The combustive combination of radical politics and technological ambition is laid out so convincingly, in fact, that it's mildly disappointing when, in the closing pages, Markoff attaches momentous significance to a confrontation between the freewheeling Californian computer culture and a young Bill Gates only to bring the story to an abrupt halt. Hopefully, he's already started work on the sequel. Agent, John Brockman.(Apr.)
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Thanks to the cunning of history and the wondrous strangeness of Northern California, the utopian counterculture, psychedelic drugs, military hardware and antimilitary software were tangled together inextricably in the prehistory of the personal computer. Full of interesting details about weird but not arbitrary connections, John Markoff's book tells one of the oddest--because truest--of California tales and thereby helps illuminate the still unsettled legacy of the Sixties.
--Todd Gitlin, author of Media Unlimited and The Sixties: Years of Hope, Days of Rage

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  • Print Length: 352 pages
  • Publisher: Penguin Books; Reprint edition (April 21, 2005)
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101 of 105 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars How LSD and Vietnam Helped Create the PC April 28, 2005
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Most histories of the personal computer begin with Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak, and Apple in 1976, but while hanging out at SAIL in the mid 1970s, and at the First West Coast Computer Faire in 1977 I heard highly attenuated versions of the folklore that Markoff has only now, after nearly 30 years, run to ground. Conventional histories of the PC make passing reference to the MITS Altair (1974) before going on the talk about the Apple, the IBM PC (1981) and what followed. The more sophisticated would conspiratorially tell the story of how Steve Jobs "stole the idea" for the Macintosh from Xerox's fabled Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) as they were "fumbling the future", and nearly everyone knew that Bill Gates then stole the ideas from Apple.

But the truth of those half-heard folktales from my youth is that nearly every concept in the personal computer predates all of this, in a delightfully picaresque tale that starts in the late 1950s and weaves together computers, LSD, the Berkeley Free Speech Movement, the Vietnam War and dozens of characters.

John Markoff, veteran technology reporter for the New York Times, is the first to comprehensively tell this story in his new book What The Dormouse Said: How the 60s Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry. Markoff, best known for Cyberpunk and Takedown: The Pursuit and Capture of Kevin Mitnick, explodes the conventional notion that the PC replaced the mini-computer in the same way that the mini-computer replaced the mainframe -- by a sort of evolutionary selection within the computer business, by persistently investigating the roots of the PC its unsung pioneers, its user interface, and the culture of open-source software in the San Francisco drug and anti-war culture of the late 1950s and 1960s.
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37 of 38 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Material but The Guy Needs an Editor!! August 24, 2005
"What the Dormouse Said" is an excellent book about two research groups based around Stanford. The two groups developed many of the key components of modern computing, and were closely linked to the counter-culture of the 1960s that flourished near Stanford.

I was quite excited to read this book. I learned a great deal of things, from the relatively minor (e.g., the origin of the word "mouse") to the extremely important (e.g., how the personal computer was a radical departure from the concept of shared computing). The book is full of keen observations about the odd individuals and groups that were responsible for making the jump from mainframes to the personal computer.

However, the book suffers from a huge problem, which others have poitned out. The book doesn't have consistent themes that pull all the anecdotes and fascinating history together. Good non-fiction books usually have three levels of organization: big ideas that motivate the entire tome; themes that link material between and within chapters; and clear sentence level writing.

The book has the big idea and it is clearly written on the level of sentences and paragraphs, but you get lost reading through chapters. There are so many people that just appear and disappear that it's hard to keep track of them. I felt like the author was lazy and just dumped a lot of oral history on the page, without going through the process of finding strong organizing principles for the material. I found the book really frustrating to read.

It's a shame. A good editor could have really whipped this book into an outstanding work of non-fiction. One or two more rounds of writing and rewriting, and the book would really be outstanding. It's has all the right stuff... it's so close ...
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4.0 out of 5 stars From Cultural Upheaval Came Modern PC Technology April 29, 2005
As all major movements and innovations seem to come out of periods of cultural upheaval so true is it of the computer revolution that brought about the information age. Here we see that Steve Wozniak's Apple one was just an immediate cause the soon to come home computing explosion. It wasn't until brew-club mate Steve Jobs saw that the market was ripe to start selling computers that the market took off. But underlying this well known story of garage-built computing is a much deeper and much more interesting story of how the field of computer science developed in sequence with the intellectual community and how it wasn't until these fields clashed (or symbiotically nurtured) with 1960's psychedelic counterculture as only California could have produced it that the computer science really took off. "What the Dormouse Said" explores how the computer industry needed freedom from the heavy top down institutions of the East Coast and found it in Silicon Valley.

Of course it all started with transistors that TI built into integrated circuits in 1958. This was the essential technology that made the revolution possible and though the IC wasn't perfect it was only a few years before the idea of a home PC was possible. As possible as it was, Digital's CEO Ken Olson said that there was no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. This backward view, like Bill Gates in 1981 when he said there is no reason a PC would require more than 640K of RAM, seems laughable in hindsight yet it was these philosophies, among forward thinking men no less, that probably slowed down the process. It only follows that if these were the innovators closed-mindedness must have been the prevailing stance within the computer science community.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating History of Personal Computing
This book was a fascinating history of personal computing in America, most specifically in Northern California, most especially in the Stanford region. Read more
Published 24 days ago by Scott C. Holstad
3.0 out of 5 stars ... to my expectations Very Informative but very very very boring.
Book did not live up to my expectations
Very Informative but very very very boring.
Published 1 month ago by Ozzyng
2.0 out of 5 stars Ax grinding
The author, NYT reporter, started off with a thesis and then collected the evidence to support it instead of sifting the evidence and finding the truth. Read more
Published 4 months ago by Mrs. Davis
4.0 out of 5 stars Feed Your Head
The writing for this book could've been less wanderish (loses focus at times), else its a good history on the people and technology of the 50s and 60s. Read more
Published 5 months ago by Michael P. Adams
4.0 out of 5 stars great history for Silicon Valley nerds.
Enjoyed the read as someone who lives in menlo park and has been involved with computers since 1964... A general precision 4000 machine. 4k memory with 32k drum memory ... Read more
Published 7 months ago by Ernest E Chilberg Jr
4.0 out of 5 stars Good history of how the Pc industry came together
Good history of how the Pc industry came together. Would have wanted a little more continuity though;sometimes hard to keep track of everyone.
Published 9 months ago by steampunk1881
3.0 out of 5 stars but John Markoff isn't the best story teller in this case
The stories are moderately interesting, but John Markoff isn't the best story teller in this case. Stephen Levy does a much better job covering similar time periods.
Published 9 months ago by Nathan West
4.0 out of 5 stars unfortunately some of it is more like a dry list of names and anagrams...
a very detailed account of the development of the computer industry. unfortunately some of it is more like a dry list of names and anagrams than an interesting story.
Published 10 months ago by Manu
4.0 out of 5 stars @_@
Great book, it lays out the history and impact of the silicon revolution by following the tales of several radical radical academics. Read more
Published 10 months ago by Nick Sweeting
5.0 out of 5 stars An untold story of my generation
This book reads almost like a novel. It tells a fascinating story of the confluence of science, technology, the development of personal computing, anti-Vietnam war activism, and... Read more
Published 16 months ago by Richard Sack
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