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What Paul Really Said About Women: The Apostle's Liberating Views on Equality in Marriage, Leadership, and Love [Paperback]

John T. Bristow
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March 1, 1991
A challenge to the traditional understanding of St. Paul's epistles and sexism in today's church.

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About the Author

Dr. John Temple Bristow is a Disciples of Christ Pastor in Seattle, Washington.

Product Details

  • Paperback: 144 pages
  • Publisher: HarperOne; Reprint edition (March 1, 1991)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0060610638
  • ISBN-13: 978-0060610630
  • Product Dimensions: 5.5 x 0.5 x 8.3 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 8 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (49 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #250,971 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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John Temple Bristow's older daughter sometimes laughingly refers to him as "The Reverend Doctor Doctor Colonel Bristow," because he is ordained, has two doctorates (one is honorary), and is a Kentucky Colonel. He has taught in a variety of seminaries and colleges in the Pacific Northwest and has retired in Port Orchard, Washington.

Dr. Bristow authored two books. His first, What Paul Really Said about Women, grew out of his curiosity over how the Apostle Paul could denigrate women and yet affirm that in Christ "there is neither male nor female," that "we are one in Christ."

Bristow began by translating the English version of Eph. 5 (the part about the husband being head of his wife and women subject to their husbands) into Greek (the language in which Paul wrote); then, Bristow compared his English-to-Greek translation with the Greek text of Ephesians itself--and he noted some surprising differences. If Paul had been a misogynist, he would have chosen different words!

Could it be that Paul's teachings have been misinterpreted and carelessly translated to reflect male bias? Writing in a style accessible to the average reader, Bristow examines not just the text but also subsequent church history as he explores both the culture-challenging things that Paul really wrote about women and the reasons church leaders could not hear his message.

Bristow's work has become widely read and is translated into Korean and French. He has frequently lectured on his findings.


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142 of 154 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Paul is more liberal than the Feminist Movement March 11, 2001
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One of the negative aspects of my culture, the Jesus Movement, was it's treatment of women. I took in these ideas, and looking through the scriptures, came to the only conclusion one could from the text in front of us: women should obey their husbands, and should not lead or teach over men. At least, coming from the background I do believing that one should follow the scriptures.

I then joined up with InterVarsity at Occidental College, at the time, one of only two IV chapters in the US with it's staff headed by a woman. Now suddenly I had to deal with these issues- there really wasn't another option for a strong Christian group on our small campus. Was it OK for me to attend these services? What if I listened and didn't apply what the pastor said? Well, of course, much of what she said was good and helpful. Perhaps it was OK to listen, but it was not me sinning, but her? After all, God speaks through non-believers- how much more could he instruct me through a woman?

I wanted to believe that women could teach and lead just as easily as men, at the same level as men; that they were more than just "spiritually equal"; that they didn't have to obey their husbands. It all sounded really nice. But unfortunately, it was not what the Bible said- and we can't simply follow truths we would like and ignore parts of the Bible we don't like.

Then I came across this book. I have not personally had a conversion experience, having grown up in the church, coming to Christ more in a Markian manner than Johanian. But this book initiated my conversion experience, at least as in regards to issues of women. At the time, cultural arguments had little weight with me- after all, how could we have any degree of certainty as to what the original culture was like? Even if so, how could we know that the same issues in that original culture, and subsequent directives, did not also apply to us?

Bristow lays out his argument looking at the original Greek, which was exactly what I needed to hear. And I think what a lot of other people in my situation need to hear. Sure, he also puts out cultural reasons as to why Paul said what he did, in different ways, to the churches in Corinth, Ephesus, et. al. But he also shows quite convincingly and clearly how in the original Greek Paul was actually arguing for something more liberal than the liberal feminist movement of today, but his words got radically misinterpreted through the misogynist eyes of the early Church Fathers. This is not to detract from those Fathers or impute to them some sort of overt attempt at distortion- they were people of their time, and read what they read through the lenses of everything they knew- they could not do otherwise.

But Bristow shows how Paul was freed by the Holy Spirit to see something greater than that which he grew up with. The Feminist Movement comes up short- it argues only for freedom for women. A good thing, but a sadly pitiful thing in comparison to what could be. For Paul advocates that men and women should be in *mutual* submission to each other, mutually loving and giving up their lives to each other. When one thinks about it, kind of makes sense, with the example that Christ already laid out.

Bristow goes further to demonstrate how, with all these other women running around in leadership mentioned in Acts and at the end of Romans and other Pauline letters, whom Paul clearly supports, it would be quite incongruous for Paul to then advocate that women should not be in leadership. And when there is no clear directive for a woman to obey in all of the Old Testament, why then does Paul suddenly advocate a greater restriction under Christ- this, from the great preacher of Freedom under Christ. Bristow answers this by looking at the culture and the Greek text, to demonstrate that, in fact, Paul does *not* advocate greater restrictions for women, or that they should not be in leadership. Rather, he calls for the opposite approach, and emancipation for women.

The one caveat I would have in regards to this book would be credentials- I would love to know what Bristow's background and credentials are, and they are listed nowhere in the book.

After reading this book, I came to understand that, while women are trapped in a sphere of influence under traditional interpretations of women's roles, so are men. I had been trapped into a belief that I had to be in authority in regards to women, and that I could not learn from them. And that sphere, while appearing to be freedom, is just as tight. This book was the first step in leading me to a heart's desire that men and women, brothers and sisters, might know the true gender reconciliation that Christ has to offer through redemption, and not revocation, of the curse.
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62 of 69 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Great read - have your Strongs handy! January 15, 1998
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Being a couch scholar and a lay minister, I've often pondered the confusing words of Paul about women and their role in the family, the Church, and society. The night I purchased this book, I started into it with a healthy skepticism - after all, there is alot of "fluff" out there trying to redefine biblical principles to "tell them what their itching ears want to hear." After carefully going through the book, with my other hand flipping furiously through my Strongs concordance/lexicon, I was overjoyed to find that this book opened up Paul's heart in a completely new way to me. It enriched my faith, changed my personal views on women, and made me more prepared for future life as a husband. Definitely worth the $ if you, like me, get stuck every time Paul mentions submission, headship, and not talking in church. Study to show yourself approved...
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25 of 28 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Orthodoxy never seemed so good! September 19, 2000
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As an ordained minister I have seen much of the pain that both men and women suffer because of misunderstandings of Paul's writings in the New Testament. One question confronts all Christians: if the New Testament says that women are not to teach and are to remain silent in the church, then how can women be ordained or serve in positions of congregational authority? John Bristow's book explains with responsible scholarship and Christian integrity what Paul really said about this and many other gender issues-- not what Paul's letters interpreted through a Greek philosophical mindset were misconstrued to mean. This book will answer questions you have wondered about all your life.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Opened my eyes to some interesting history of the treatment of women...
This book is being used in a group Bible study that includes both men and women. It has created some interesting discussions. Read more
Published 1 day ago by Texas Girl
5.0 out of 5 stars What St Paul Really said about Women
Had read this book years ago, and now needed to review again, as I believe that our WORLD has CHEAPENED the worth of the feminism role in SOCIETY. Read more
Published 8 days ago by Ellen Gaffney
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Thank you very much. I cetainly will look forward to doing more business with you in the near future. Joan
Published 16 days ago by Joan Crane
4.0 out of 5 stars Pretty good
The book contains a very straightforward argument: Paul’s writings in the NT are not a legitimate basis for traditional views of women in marriage, family, and church. Read more
Published 1 month ago by Hans
5.0 out of 5 stars What Paul Really said about Women
Great reading!! jest knowing what Paul really mean about a Women been brain wash for years, thank you for the eye opening.
Published 1 month ago by Carletha Williams
5.0 out of 5 stars EXCELLENT READ
reading is difficult for me, adn this book is not exception, but by God's grace i was able to understand the complax issues this authot brought to light. EXCELLENT READ ... Read more
Published 3 months ago by Take Time to Heal
5.0 out of 5 stars Excelle nt examination of Apostle Paul's views
This is must reading for older Baptist, like me. I now think that my earlier teachings about Pauls statement in the Bible were not correct. Read more
Published 3 months ago by Clarence D Williams
5.0 out of 5 stars New Insights
It's not a new book, but Bristow's understanding of "headship" and the two Greek words (arche & cephale) are very helpful. Highly recommend the read.
Published 4 months ago by Dan Knight
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent.
There are a lot of lies about Pauls view of women. This book is good at telling what Paul really was saying about women, which always was said with love. Read more
Published 5 months ago by Bjorn
5.0 out of 5 stars Insightful
This book is eye-opening in how much you can lose in translation. We should always seek the truth and books like this (that are based on research of the original writings) are... Read more
Published 8 months ago by Thbosley
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