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What We Do Is Secret (2007)

Starring: Shane West, Bijou Phillips Director: Rodger Grossman Rating: R (Restricted) Format: DVD
3.6 out of 5 stars See all reviews (10 customer reviews)

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  • Actors: Shane West, Bijou Phillips, Rick Gonzalez, Chris Pontius, Noah Segan
  • Directors: Rodger Grossman
  • Format: Color, Dolby, DVD, NTSC, Widescreen
  • Language: English
  • Region: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only. Read more about DVD formats.)
  • Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1
  • Number of discs: 1
  • Rating: R (Restricted)
  • Studio: Peace Arch Home Entertainment
  • DVD Release Date: November 4, 2008
  • Run Time: 110 minutes
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
  • ASIN: B001ECDVIG
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #14,705 in Movies & TV (See Bestsellers in Movies & TV)

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What We Do Is Secret is the true-life story of Darby Crash (Shane West), who became an L.A. punk icon with his band The Germs. With his friends, Lorna Doom (Bijou Phillips), Pat Smear (Rick Gonzalez), and Don Bolles (Noah Segan), Darby Crash completely transformed the L.A punk scene, while sacrificing everyone he loved, his career, and ultimately his life

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21 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars NOT the Germs, October 27, 2008
If this movie has actually helped some people discover the Germs and the old school punk scene, then I guess that's a good thing.

BUT...

This movie has nothing to do with reality. Far from a realistic portrait, this film presents Darby Crash as a nice, but misunderstood kid who could just as easily have been a supporting character on "Dawson's Creek" and makes the L.A. punk scene look like an episode of "90210."

Read "Lexicon Devil" or watch "Decline of Western Civilization" as a contrast. Or just listen to the Germs. Just Darby's lyrics on their own illustrate the yawning chasm between who he really was and who Roger Grossman and Shane West make him out to have been. Even Don Bolles has dismissed the movie as worthless in interviews.

Brilliant, whiny, pathetic, cruel, insecure, domineering, self-destructive, confused, deceitful and very, very sad, Darby Crash was a profoundly flawed and often unpleasant screwed up kid who also happened to write some of the best punk rock lyrics ever produced for one of the scene's most influential bands.

Grossman and West manage to gloss over everything that was difficult, disturbing and most importantly, tragic about Darby. And in their attempt to lionize him, they paint a bland and sterile picture of an average adolescent who seems like he'd be more comfortable singing for Fallout Boy than the Germs.

As I'm no stickler for obsessive historical accuracy, all of this could maybe - MAYBE - be forgivable if the movie were well-made or had something important to say. But no. It's just an oversimplified whitewash of one of the most complex, orginal and influential artists the punk scene has produced.

If you want a great fictional movie about early punk, skip this trash and go watch "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains." In it's way, that movie says more about old school punk rock than this film ever could.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Out of my element, December 16, 2008
By SAM "curious gram" (, PA United States) - See all my reviews
As a 63 year old grandmother, who is as far removed from the punk music scene as you could possibly get, this was difficult to watch...but I did. I believe that you can't dismiss things that you don't care for unless you try to understand what they are about. I hope that the movie was fairly accurate because it explains why someone might create music with so much "hurt" in it. I gave it three stars because that is a neutral number and although the material was one star for me it did a five star job at showing the gritty, difficult, unhappy lives that the band members lived.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Mixed feelings were a given..., January 1, 2009
By Zelie Nic (Pittsburgh) - See all my reviews
First, I'm not going to pretend that I was around LA when all of this went down... I was in New Orleans, and I didn't really get into punk until 1980 or '81, when Black Flag came through. Darby Crash was already dead by then, so I never knew him, met him, or even saw the Germs. With that said, the fact that the surviving Germs are happy with Shane West and "What We Do is Secret" is enough for me.

I'll be honest though, I would've liked to have seen some more of the earlier years. Show some more of the time spent at IPS (read "Lexicon Devil"). I think that the film does try to project the complicated person that Crash appears to have been. I do think it comes off short though, perhaps because of the fact that the film itself clocks in around an hour and a half.

The list of people involved in the making of this film is impressive. It is a who's who of punk in Los Angeles. This, coupled with the input of the Germs and their immediate circle suggest that the film was credible.

What surprised me though was how many of the scenes of turmoil within the band seemed cliche. I've no doubt it was, but it still surprised me.

The documentary/ bio-epic presentation is interesting. I wonder why Grossman decided to do it this way. I don't know. If this film had a larger budget and this is what they turned out I would rate this movie lower... but the fact of the matter is that this film had a small budget and took almost two decades to make. This fact perhaps explains the relatively short length of "What We Do is Secret" as well as other shortcomings.

I'm glad this film was completed. I'm glad its out there and it is absolutely worth seeing, but, if you are a Germs fan you'd see it even if it was absolute trash.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Not the "Disaster Movie" I expected!
I Heard about this Germs/Darby Crash Film for Years. I never really thought the Story was Much for a Hollywood Film. Since its release I Only heard how Bad it was!! Read more
Published 9 days ago by Glenn S. Hawley

4.0 out of 5 stars What We Do Is Secret
I've seen WWDIS three times, and I'm giving it four stars. This is why:

The first star is for tenacity. Read more
Published 1 month ago by A. Cooper

4.0 out of 5 stars A far better true punk rock story than Sid and Nancy!
I remember when I first heard The Germs back in late 1979,80. That was my first time hearing punk rock music and it bewildered me. I was 14 and a resident of Los Angeles. Read more
Published 1 month ago by James F. Meloncon

3.0 out of 5 stars I'm Not a Commodity (or maybe I am)
I liked punk back in the late 1970's but since I didn't live in LA I never had the chance to actually see a live Germs show. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Doug Anderson

4.0 out of 5 stars Great Film!
This movie is a stellar example of vision, persistence and character on the part of director Roger Grossman, Shane West and Bijou Phillips. Read more
Published 10 months ago by J. W. Wheeler

5.0 out of 5 stars The Greatness
This movie was awesome. Finally a movie about the origins of Punk Rock. Shane West brought Darby back to life. Must see!
Published 10 months ago by Filmy

5.0 out of 5 stars This movie got me into punk rock
I was never really into punk rock. I didn't even know who The Germs were until I saw this movie. But WWDIS got me into the Germs, and into a whole new genre. Read more
Published 10 months ago by Joey Daoud

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