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When I Don't Desire God: How to Fight For Joy [Paperback]

John Piper
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September 21, 2004

For over twenty-five years John Piper has trumpeted the truth that "God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in him." He calls it Christian Hedonism. The problem is that many people, after being persuaded, find that this truth is both liberating and devastating.

It's liberating because it endorses our inborn desire for joy. And it's devastating because it reveals that we don't desire God the way we should. What do you do when you discover the good news that God wants you to be content in him, but then find that you aren't?

If joy in God were merely the icing on the cake of Christian commitment, this book would be insignificant. But Piper argues that joy is so much more. Our being satisfied in God is necessary to show God's worthiness and to sustain sacrifices of love.

Jesus endured the cross for the joy that was set before him. He tasted it. It sustained him through the deepest suffering. His Father was glorified. His people were saved. That is what joy in God does.

The absolutely urgent question becomes: What can I do if I don't have it? With a pastor's heart and with radical passion for the glory of Christ, John Piper helps you answer that question.


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About the Author

John Piper (DTheol, University of Munich) is teacher and founder of Desiring God and chancellor of Bethlehem College and Seminary. He has served for over 30 years as pastor for preaching and vision at Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis and is author of more than 50 books, including Desiring GodDon’t Waste Your LifeThis Momentary Marriage, and Bloodlines.


Product Details

  • Paperback: 272 pages
  • Publisher: Crossway Books (September 21, 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1581346522
  • ISBN-13: 978-1581346527
  • Product Dimensions: 8.5 x 5.5 x 0.7 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 11.2 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (30 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #31,007 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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John Piper is the Pastor for Preaching at Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He grew up in Greenville, South Carolina, and studied at Wheaton College, where he first sensed God's call to enter the ministry. He went on to earn degrees from Fuller Theological Seminary (B.D.) and the University of Munich (D.theol.). For six years he taught Biblical Studies at Bethel College in St. Paul, Minnesota, and in 1980 accepted the call to serve as pastor at Bethlehem. John is the author of more than 30 books, including Sex and the Supremacy of Christ, Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, What Jesus Demands from the World, and Don't Waste Your Life.

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127 of 129 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Piper at His Best and Most Practical January 11, 2005
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This is John Piper's best book of the last several years, which builds on (but doesn't repeat, contrary to one review) the foundations laid in Desiring God: The Meditations of a Christian Hedonist. Because the supreme duty of every follower of Jesus is to glorify God (1 Cor 10:31) and because praise on the lips divorced from delight in the heart is hypocrisy (Matthew 15:8), nothing is more important than having a heart that is so satisfied in Jesus that it can say, "Whom have I heaven but You? And there is nothing on earth that I desire beside You" (Psalm 73:25). And since sustaining that kind of desire for God is a fight, John Piper served us well by writing this helpful book.

Chapter One is entitled, "Why I Wrote This Book." From the outset Piper makes clear that "the fight for joy in Christ is not a fight to soften the cushion of Western comforts. It is a fight to live a life of self-sacrificing love." (p. 20). This is no health/wealth/prosperity handbook to grabbing as much joy in this life as possible. It is a field-manual for the believer who is dead earnest about not wasting his life on trivialities.

Chapter Two, "What is the Difference Between Desire and Delight," far from playing fast and loose in defining words, is a helpful exploration of "affections." Drawing on C. S. Lewis's "Surprised by Joy," Piper demonstrates that desire and delight are different though related, with God the all-important object of both. His discussion is laden with Scripture and his use of language wise.

Chapter Three, "The Call to Fight for Joy in God," is a serious look at God's demand that we delight in Him. Delight in God is serious because the essence of evil is to choose broken cisterns over the Fountain of Living Water (Jer. 2:13).
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4.0 out of 5 stars A Word of Warning About Piper's Emphasis June 21, 2005
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This is a general comment on Piper's books and ministry. I deeply appreciate the work of John Piper--especially his emphasis on missions and on living God-centered, Christ-exalting lives of worship. And I am Augustinian, so I love Piper's theology and am thrilled that he has become so popular. But I do want to provide a warning. Piper's main emphasis is (and you'll read this over and over again) "God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied (or delighted) in Him." This is a biblical and wonderful proposition that Piper became aware of through the writings of Jonathan Edwards. And to Edwards, this was one small part of his theology.

But Piper has taken this idea, which he calls "Christian Hedonism," and built his whole life and ministry around it. The problem is that if you read enough Piper, you will begin to focus on the FEELING of being delighted in Christ, rather than on Christ Himself. And when your feelings don't match what you want them to be, you will become disheartened. (And let's face it, few of us have the emotional intensity of John Piper.) At that point, your feelings (of being delighted in God) become the object of your desires and, thus, an idol. Yes, they are feelings TOWARD God--but those feelings are NOT GOD. And when the focus of your life has become your emotions, it has deceptively become an idol.

I know Piper fights against this tendency. But I'm afraid he is often unsuccessful. The fact is, the Christian life is not going to be one of unending joy in God. Read the Psalms to see how often the psalmists cry out in agony and desperation and sadness to the Lord. Read Romans 7 to find out how tough and discouraging the Christian life can really be.

According to Piper, our happiness in God should be the driving motivation in our life.
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43 of 48 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Hope! December 28, 2004
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If you've ever been frustrated by Piper's heralding statement "God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in Him" because of your dissatisfaction in God, then this book begins to answer your frustrations. Piper has taken the most common protests and frustrations with Christian Hedonism and systematically answered these concerns with Scriptural exhortation upon Scriptural exhortation. Here is a quote from the book that really impacted me: "Make and trust a blind idol, and you become blind (Psalm 135:15-18). Apply that principle to the modern world, and think of the idols of our own day. What do we make and what do we trust? Things. Toys. Technology. And so our hearts and our affections are formed by these things. They compress the void in our heart into shapes like toys. The result is that we are easily moved and excited by things-computers, cars, appliances, entertainment media. They seem to fit the shapes in our hearts. They feel good in the tiny spaces that have made. But in this readiness to receive pleasure from things, we are ill-shaped for Christ. He seems unreal, unattractive. The eyes of our hearts grow dull."
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5.0 out of 5 stars Piper at his best! November 22, 2005
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Piper is one of my favorite authors. I have also heard every sermon he has on available for audio on his website. I've heard and read a lot of his work. He says he really only has one message and that is "To seek and spread a passion for the glory of Christ to the joy of all peoples." This book is a new view on that. I've owned this book for a while and prayed that God would let me read this when it would affect me most. He did just that. I pray that would be your prayer as well. When that happens, God will make His Name sweet in your heart and beautiful on your lips. If you are struggling with your desire for God, first go to Him in prayer. Than go to His Word. Then go to your pastor, your family, and friends. Then read this book. God will reach you in your time of struggle and in your time of blessing. In Job 1:21, right after hearing of all the troubles the LORD brought on him, Job proclaimed, "Naked I came into this world and naked I will return. The Lord gives and the Lord takes away, may the Name of the Lord be praised!" Praise God in both blessing and suffering. He is blessing you with both, so thank Him and praise Him in return. Let Him teach you this lesson through John Piper in this book!
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4.0 out of 5 stars First John Piper experience
I read this book at the recommendation of my pastor because I wasn't sure whether I truly "Desired more of God" or "Desired to desire more of God". Read more
Published 3 months ago by Don S. Spaulding
5.0 out of 5 stars poignant & relatable
This is not light reading as the language can get quite complex, and the book is quite dense with lots of information. Read more
Published 4 months ago by jrghettosuperstar
5.0 out of 5 stars Great book!
Received in great time, great shape and love John Piper! He is absolutely the best speaker, lover of God and tells it like it is!
Published 5 months ago by Elizabeth Randall
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent book!
To tell the truth I was a bit hesitant to purchase this book as loosing my "joy" was not something to which I was willing to admit.
John Piper doesn't disappoint. Read more
Published 5 months ago by Lisa Crawford
5.0 out of 5 stars When I Don't Desire God: How to Fight For Joy
My son loved this book. He said it helped him and he would recommend it to others. I'm sure he will get more books.
Published 5 months ago by Lynette Mann
5.0 out of 5 stars Great read
Fight for joy in Jesus. This book is very helpful, and Scripture filled. Not a Christian? This book can benefit the Christian and non-Christian alike.
Published 6 months ago by Melvin Mercado
5.0 out of 5 stars Guide for enjoyment and fulfillment in God
Practical guide for enjoyment in God with solid doctrine foundation. John Piper shows how christian basic doctrine can effective change our attitude to God and our self.
Published 9 months ago by Lap
5.0 out of 5 stars Practical and insightful
This is a really practical and insightful work of John Piper. It helped me a lot to rethink my behavior towards God. Read more
Published 15 months ago by Cristiano Moreira Silva
4.0 out of 5 stars When I Don't Desire God
It is a very good book. I was a bit lost at first with what Piper wanted to address, but reading it thoroughly makes you realize you've been blessed so much, and appreciate the... Read more
Published 17 months ago by R
5.0 out of 5 stars What a great read!
Piper really gets to the marrow of the Word in this book. For those who need assurance that God is able to save completely those whom He call this is a "must read"!
Published 23 months ago by Rick
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