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When Forever Comes Crashing

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even though petitioning the empty sky seems to be the favorite of most, my favorite converge album is definitely this one, when forerever comes crashing. noisy yet technical guitarwork ala rorschach, fast drumming, and plenty of psychotic vocals. this album may be hard to get into at first due to the insane vocal stylings of jacob bannon (coupled with the fact that in many songs he has tons of effects added to his voice) but after awhile, they really grow on you, and the aggressive chaotic music is some of the best out there. fewer emotional breakdowns on this album, but there is an all out melodic song (ten cents) to provide some depth. all in all this album is just pure innovative chaos, not for the weak-hearted. and if these guys ever come near you, i highly suggest seeing them. they rock hard live.

fans of converge should check out acme, cave in's older material, and barrit, if they haven't already.

This cd has my favorite converge song ever, My Unsaid Everything. So what am I to say that is contrary to this cd, though it kinda lags at times and seems a little too long it is still a pretty good album. I lost it so I can't really get way too current on it, but it seems to be the transitional piece for Converge, you know the kinda record where they are inbewteen thier new and old sound. There are two or three misses on this cd though it has the delightfully smooth Ten Cents which doesn't even seem to odd for Converge to record despite the complete lack of choas and mayhem on the track. I do like this cd a whole lot, cheers!

This is one of the best hardcore albums period. The range of emotions that these guys throw down on this record leave you breathless. Pick up this record NOW.

It never ceases to amaze me how I could compare the best of today's aggressive music to stuff that Converge released in the 90's and still be unimpressed with what we have today. It seems like everything Kurt Ballou touched became a masterpiece. "When Forever Comes Crashing Is No Exception".

WFCC was one of the few converge albums that had the fans split on whether or not they like it. Many fans thought that the production of the album was sloppy and that the overall quality was sub-par compared to the band's previous hit, "Petitioning The Empty Sky".
However, the consensus seemed to be that Converge had pulled off another great release with WFCC. The songs were fast and hard like always, but still experimental enough to keep it fresh. Converge had done a good job of meeting if not exceeding the expectations that fans had after PTES.

Converge finally had the sense to re-release both albums, along with new artwork and a supposedly remastered tracklisting, along with a few bonus tracks with both.

WFCC re-release isn't quite what you'd expect in the improvement of quality department. While I can go back and listen to the old copy seeing the slight improvements in clarity...that still doesn't fix the recurring problems such as lack of bass and occasional unbalancing of the instruments. I should also add the fact that the bonus tracks are a bit lacking when compared to the surplus of live tracks we got on the PTES re-release. Sure, a demo version of Bitter and Then Some is a nice bonus, but I'm not sure it's enough to warrant a second purchase of this album.

So now to the actual song reviews.

01-My Unsaid Everything-As with most of their releases, Converge comes in with a bang. This is easilly one of the best songs on the album. The tempo changes really show a progression from earlier stuff. The drumwork on here is also very nice.

02-The High Cost of Playing God-This song is favorite to a lot of fans. It starts out very hardcore esque and suddenly picks up speed to create a really aggressive and chaotic song. This is definately one of my favorite songs by the band.

03-In Harms Way-Obviously more experimental. I suspect Bannon had a hand in writing the music for this because Kurt usually writes the hard stuff. The real treat for this song is torwards the end when the tempo starts speeding up and it turns into a mosh fest.

04-Conduit-Easilly in the top 5 best converge songs of them all. If you go to a show and they don't play this then you might want to check and make sure it was converge.

05-The lowest Common Denominator-A highly experimental song by Converge. Most fans either love or hate it.

06-Bitter and Then Some demo-This song came out in 2001 with Jane Doe and I considered it to be one of the best songs on the album. It's nice to hear a demo.

07-Letterbomb-I really enjoy this song a lot. It's got great drum and bass work. I would say it's one of the better songs on this cd as far as production goes.

08-Love As Arson-What can I say? Fast as hell and it doesn't let you go. This song rocks. Alot.

09-Ten Commandments-This is a slow, almost jazzy song. I personally love it but a lot of fans will differ.

10-Towing Jehovah-It's more of a metal song but that's surely not a bad thing. Great guitar work

11-When Forever Comes Crashing-This may just be my favorite song on the album. I LOVE the guitar in the first seconds of this song. It's just so capivating. It sort of slows down in the middle and then all hell breaks loose.

12-Year of The Swine-It's slightly above average for a converge song. Not a standout but certainly not an under achiever.

The more I looke back at this album the more I've come to love it.
IMO it's much better than PTES. I'm a firm believer in the fact that Converge was at their peak when Jane Doe came out. So that would make this album very high up there considering it was released just 3 years before.

If your just getting into Converge, this would be a good bet if you can stand the slight lack in quality. For me this one ranks up there with Jane Doe and You Fail Me. Every song here is great.
Personally I would rather they have re-recorded this album but given their strict touring schedule and the fact that the fans are expecting a new album, I don't blame em.

When I turned on the first track of this album, I smiled ear to ear and started floor punching; the pounding, bass-heavy production shows through as soon as the first song starts playing, and the moods contained in the songs on the album range from wall breaking anger to crying sadness. Definitely a bad mood record; the effects on the vocals add a slightly terrifying element to the songs as well, especially on "The Lowest Common Denominator." This album is a step below Jane Doe, but a step above Petitioning The Empty Sky. Anyone who doesn't like this album is afraid they'll get punched in the face when they play "Conduit" live. As with most Converge records, the more I listen to When Forever Comes Crashing, the more I enjoy it. I definitely recommend this record for those who like to scream along with the lyrics or punch walls while listening to music.

Converge follows their breakout album "Petitioning The Empty Sky" with a brutal, fast, and lethal dose of heaviness. The production on this cd is top notch, although some of the garage feel of "Petitioning" is missed. The bass, played by Steven Brodsky on this particular album, lays a thundering foundation for guitarists Aaron Dalbec and Kurt Ballou to wield their axes of dissonance to. Highlights on this cd include "My Unsaid Everything," a favorite from their live set, "In Harms Way" with its twangy country western guitar sound, and "Ten Cents," a dreamy, reverby 50s love song (no joke, it is good). "Love As Arson," originally released on a split "7 with Coalesce, finishes off the cd in typical Converge style; fast, chaotic, darn good! The only thing that kept this album from being a perfect was that I even though I liked Jake Bannon's vocals, the distortion may have been a bit too much in a few isolated spots. The artwork and layout, done by Bannon himself, is slick, scary and what you would expect from converge; skeletons, skulls, fuses. To catch a band that keeps improving and will only continue to get bigger, pick up this cd. Look for their new split cd release with Agoraphobic Nosebleed out on Relapse anytime now.

Being a person who was lucky enough to see this band grow, from a crappy Biohazzard-esc hard core band to Kings of intense metal, this record was a serious let down. Every release by Converge show even more promise and growth. but this was a giant leap backward. The production by Steve Austin of Today Is The Day, shows. He clearly wished his band would make the kind of records that Converge had and has, so he made this sound like TITD. Awful effects of the vocals and buried bass lines, which otherwise are beautiful. These songs live are great, some on here are even bearable, but as a whole this record sounds like garbage. Any other Converge record I would say is 4 or 5 stars, but the production ruins these songs. Everytime I decide to give another chance I am more let down, and to recover I go back to Unloved & Weeded Out, or Caring & Killing or forward to jane Doe. Leave this behind unless you feel the need to complete the collection. Sorry, I honestly love this band and saying these harsh words was difficult for me.

for any serious post-hardcore metal fan, this is a must have. Very heavy, chaotic, and technical. The kings of crush-matal. Very influenced by slayer. But that isn't a bad thing. If you get a chance, see them live. You will be a changed man. My only complaints are the anti-Diety, hate-full lyrics. Very disturbing.

I bought "When Forever.." in the hopes that it would be better than the first Converge CD I picked up, the early compilation "Caring & Killing". What I found was a different sounding record, not necessarily better. Converge throw down a metal-influenced hardcore slop that owes a lot to Slayer and Today Is The Day but rarely shows those bands' innovation. No surprise then, that Today's Steve Austin produced it; lead singer Jacob Bannon's over-distorted shriek is also highly reminiscent of Austin's group. A variety of styles are employed, with varying levels of success: The woozy skronk-pop of "In Harms Way" and the surprisingly affecting indie-pop "Ten Cents" are both worthwhile songs, "The Lowest Common Denominator"'s noise-core leanings are not. Perhaps where Converge succeed best is when they barrel into shout-along Slayerized barnstormers like the album's opener, "My Unsaid Everything", and the closer, "Love As Arson". Even then, they're not very original and their music tends to drag because of it. For fiercely original, brain-scrambling hardcore-metal, check out Coalesce and Dillinger Escape Plan, both of which can fry neurons with their heart-stopping precision and flat-out weirdness.

this is one of the best hardcore cds i have bought. and to top it all off they are the best live band also. they do some of the sickest stuff live. i encourage you to buy this cd and then see them live.