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  • Paperback: 376 pages
  • Publisher: P & R Publishing (February 20, 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0875525520
  • ISBN-13: 978-0875525525
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6.2 x 0.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.2 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (59 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #535,791 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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42 of 48 people found the following review helpful By Taylor Adams on March 25, 2005
Format: Paperback
I was a hyper-preterist. Then I read this book. I read it in order to refute it. I could not. I can attest to the accuracy of the contributor's statements regarding hyper-preterism, and I'm thankful I was pulled from the clutches of it before I had sunk deeper.

This book constitutes the first detailed and in-depth response to the movement known as "full preterism" but better called "hyper preterism." Naturally, because it is the first, it will stumble in some areas. But there are also positives.

By far the best contributions are the chapters by Gentry ("The Historical Problem with Hyper-Preterism"), Hill ("Eschatology in the Wake of Jerusalem's Fall"), Wilson ("Sola Scriptura, Creeds, and Ecclesiastical Authority"), and Stimple ("Hyper-Preterism on the Resurrection of the Body"). They are the best because they are tightly reasoned and exegetically based (I don't know if I've seen more scripture quoted in a book before. They can constitute a third or half of a page on occasion).

The remaining chapters are certainly ok, but not spectacular. That said, there is one chapter that completely stands out as being the worst contribution to this book, but also the worst explanation of the prophetic time texts I have read to date. It is Pratt's chapter ("Hyper-Preterism and Unfolding Biblical Eschatology"). The entire chapter's argument can be presented as follows: "Biblical prophesy and prediction do not need to be fulfilled in the manner, or the timing, made by the initial prophesy." Thus, his best defense becomes the worst offense. No, his best defense is to have no offense at all. Pratt's argument seems to go like this: "when confronted with a dissenting opinion to orthodoxy, we ought to exterminate everyone on earth.
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17 of 20 people found the following review helpful By Darren Edgington on May 3, 2004
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It is certain that wolves wear sheep's clothing. This attire is not for beauty, but deception unto destruction. This new book lifts the fleece and allows the reader to see that the hyper-preterism position beneath is wolf-like. This unorthodox twist on eschatology denies essential tenets of the Christian faith. Those who hold such positions are not friends of the Good Shepherd, and certainly have no love for His sheep. This book reveals the wolf and protects the sheep. In this regard, it accords with the ministry of the Savior.
The view critiqued in this book holds that there is no bodily resurrection and no future literal second coming of Jesus Christ. Yet, adherants to the nonsensical views of hyper-preterism desire to wear the tag "Orthodox Christian". Those who deny the essential tenets of the faith once for all delivered to the saints are neither orthodox nor Christian. This book reveals wolves for what they are - wolves.
Dr. Gentry begins by giving more than ample evidence that the historic position of the church is well-stated and clear. To deny the weight or his thorough documentation is to demonstrate an unwillingness to see the evidence. Hyper-preterism is a novelty. Any movement that desires to isolate itself from the universal confessions of the faith should be seen as suspect. Gentry clearly shows that this infantile position is not historically represented within orthodoxy.
Dr. Hill's chapter is also well-documented and convincing. He does an excellent job of evaluating extra-Biblical material in the years immediately following the age of the apostles. The view of the hyper-preterists is not in this writing. Thus, as Dr.
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17 of 20 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on April 12, 2004
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Finally a nationally noted publisher has engaged the debate against a new Internet-based theological movement. In "When Shall These Things Be" we find a book by several noted evangelical and Reformed scholars who throw a spotlight on the growing Hyperpreterist movement. I am thankful that Keith Mathison of R. C. Sproul's Ligonier Ministries has assembled this important book for us.
As strange as it seems, Hyperpreterism is a delusive movement that claims to be evangelical. Yet at the same time it charges that Christianity has been absolutely wrong for 2000 years on several foundational doctrines. Only recently have a random assortment of Internet-based theologues associated with this heretical movement discovered that the Christian church has mistakenly believed in the future second coming of Christ to resurrect all men and effect the day of judgment. Not so, says this militant movement. Actually (they say) Christ returned in A.D. 70, never to return again! The only resurrection we can expect is when we are converted. At that moment we are spiritually resurrected (never to be physically resurrected).
Although Christians have long debated detailed chronologies associated with the Lord's glorious Second Advent (premillennialism, amillennialism, postmillennialism), never have we seen such a strange view as this new innovation. Christ has already returned, and his church did not even know it! A few (not all!) of the contributors to Mathison's book are orthodox preterists who believe that some NT prophecies focus on A.D. 70 (for example, Matt. 24), while allowing that many others prophesy the future Second Coming.
Please do not simply shrug your shoulders and write off this new movement as silly.
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