Whispering In The Wind [Paperback]

Carmen Bostic St. Clair (Author), John Grinder (Author)

Product Details

• Paperback: 381 pages
• Publisher: John Grinder & Carmen Bostic (December 31, 2001)
• Language: English
• ISBN-10: 0971722307
• ISBN-13: 978-0971722309
• Product Dimensions: 9.4 x 5 x 1 inches
• Shipping Weight: 1.3 pounds
• Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,508,850 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars Great Book!, December 27, 2011

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Chris Cathey - See all my reviews

This review is from: Whispering In The Wind (Paperback)

I loved this book though I wish it could have been more clear in certain areas. This book does a lot to explain John Grinder's conception of NLP an where he thinks it should go from here as it continues to mature hopefully into a field. You may not agree with everything he says but his work him and Carmen's that is... is very interesting. It's very fascinating to hear where N-Step Reframing or Six Step Reframing as it was traditionally called came from.

You get his take on modeling and what it should be like. He also describes logical levels in this book the only person that I have seen in the field that their conception of logical levels matches the one in this book is Steve Andreas. The type setting of this book makes it difficult to read at times.

And some of the terms that are used by the authors are never well defined. So you either need to contact the author for clarification or review whatever you can get your hands on their work for the last 30 years or so. And no 'Turtles All The Way Down' is not enough.

1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars A "must-read" for serious NLP practitioners, April 23, 2011

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GreenBaron - See all my reviews

This review is from: Whispering In The Wind (Paperback)

Whispering is not necessarily an easy read - but niether was Bateson's brilliantcollection of essays "Steps to an Ecology of Mind." And I do not make this comparison lightly.

If you are seriously interested in understanding the high quality that NLP offers and more importantly, the new code of NLP both then and now, this book is a must read. Afterall - it was written by one of the co-founders and NLP and then the new code. And probably THE best NLP trainer in the world.

As for Michael Hall - well - he has never really "got it", has he?! Probably never will....., afterall. And why would anyone want to invest time and money in his abomination of NLP?

Model at the source, not at the blunt edge....

4 of 6 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars A breath of fresh air at the Mornings dawn, November 23, 2009

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Ken Keacher "lifelineken" (mn) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Whispering In The Wind (Paperback)

Whispering in the wind.

As someone interested in NLP function and logic I was most pleased with the structure and content of the material.

Co-authored by Carmen Bostic St. Clair and delivered in a style extremely characteristic of John Grinder.

This work weaves together in story form from Grinders perspective, the history of NLP and its associated techniques and observations.

For me, this approach clarified many points in other books that were presented without boundaries or context. This alone made the book with a five-star rating.

Then the book goes into a in-depth look at logical distinction, type theory etc. in relation to NLP application. while this may be tediously dry reading for some I found it essential for the dynamic type of thinking required in excellent performance.

The book covers coding issues discovered by the authors in years of training and application. Also included is a six step formula applicable for every NLP technique. Again, alone worth a five star rating.

Modeling is also extensively covered with a logic, clarity and depth that I found very satisfying, especially in contrast to Dilts "Modeling with NLP" .....again worth a five star rating.

As a meta-comment on the criticisms offered Dilts by Grinder, I would like to have seen the master of language express an ecological and supportive style in his challenges of Dilts's logic.( This would have been worth another five stars:)

The book also revises and defines much of NLP modeling, application and training with refreshing clarity.

Recommendations are made for quality control and the continuation of NLP for the benefit of future generations.

This is a must-have for any NLP enthusiast.

I have read criticisms of this work by some people considered top NLP trainers and practitioners.

I would ask if they are unwilling to look at the prospect that there are better ways of doing what they are doing or are they holding on needlessly to protect their own ego when presented with better options?

Truth is a nominalization and it is subjective.

Rather than look for one truth, is it better to realize that there is room for everybody's truth, and so much more?!!!!!

and now we notice the light, the seas and the winds of time as they pass into that void we call "human nature."