Hello all you MSG players - what is the M rating in these games for? I know it's violent - how bad, and how bad is the language? Anything else I won't approve of? Trying to decide whether to get this set for teenage boys. And will they need the first MSG?
These games have blood and gore, drug reference, intense violence, language , sexual themes and use of tobacco. With that said its really up to the player how violent it gets, you can stun , knock out and sneak past enemies without killing them ( you must kill bosses tho ). It doesn't have extreme language going off all the like modern shooters. Theres a sex scene which is graphic or anything, its pretty like something that would be in a day time movie. Theres one part when one of the main character is naked but you can only see his back and not the front. They would need the first one , which is available on psn for 6 dollars I think. I hope that helps and sorry about my writing I wrote this kinda fast :p.
Like the previous guy said, the biggest thing is graphic violence. However, it's not gratuitous, it serves a purpose. There's also cigarette smoking and some sexual themes (nothing overt, there's some kissing with sex implied in MGS3). Language isn't too bad (No F-word, only in MGS4). But depending on how mature your boys are, I would HIGHLY recommend the games. While they are "video games" they are extremely thought provoking and full of social critique, history, philosophy, politics, and themes of loyalty and patriotism. That being said, they are extremely entertaining.
As for MGS1, if you have PS3, you can download it for $10 on the PlayStation network. The graphics are very dated, but the game is the best in the series. However, you don't have to play it first because the series is not in chronological order. The chronological order is:
(Metal Gear Solid 3) Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops- A PSP game (Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker) (Metal Gear) (Metal Gear 2) Metal Gear Solid (Metal Gear Solid 2) Metal Gear Solid 4
The games in () are included in the HD collection. So You can start with MGS3 (Chronologically first) or Metal Gear (The first game made).
To sum up, I would highly recommend this for your teenager, its 5 games for the price of 1!
Thank you very much for the two responses I got! They both helped a lot - helped me to decide to purchase this set for our boys. They'll be surprised at Christmas - I haven't allowed an M-rated game in the house yet! However, it sounds like there's nothing worse here than what they see in tv commercials. Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
I would agree with what the people said above us. However, I got my first metal gear solid game (mgs3) when I was in 6th grade. Although violent and had some sexual themes, It was nothing I hadn't seen before in the movies. I would say mgs3, if a movie, would fall a little bit more than pg-13. Regardless, though, they are great games (especially mgs3).
I don't know, I think if it were a movie they would treat it to an "R", just because of the Rambo style. Great collection though, your kids will love it! I started with Metal Gear Solid 1 at a young age, it's what brought me into gaming, really.
To be honest, I'm a bit more concerned that a child might find the story of MGS to be a bit too dense. The violence is something that, for the most part, can be downplayed at some point. In fact, there are greater rewards in these games for going through the game killing as few people as possible. What really sets the bar for a mature game is that the themes and story presented in these games just might be too overreaching for the average child. The maturity is definitely in much more than just the violence. We're talking a deeply political tale, here. It's a fun game to play. My concern is whether or not a child is likely to really understand it.
Ok, let's stop pretending that the MGS series has a good story. Kojima can't write a coherent story to save his life. This, combined with his heavy-handed and awkward attempts at philosophical messages, the increasing asinine ratio of cutscenes/codec conversations to actual gameplay, and Kojima's rather blatant status as a frustrated wannabe filmmaker.
The actual gameplay of the MGS series is very fun. It's too bad it's saddled with a storyline that is composed of the mingled diarrhea of a thousand rotting corpses; and isn't allowed to gain any momentum, since it's interrupted by annoying cutscenes or pointless tedious codec conversations before it can actually become at all engaging or immersive.
You're very amusing. I am anything but a Call of Duty fan, or even a FPS fan in general. I don't own an XBox because the system's entire exclusive library seems to consist of FPS clones, games I have absolutely no interest in. I just know that sometimes a simple story is better, and it's ALWAYS better than a story that is overly complex for no other reason that to be overly complex. I think the fact that so many gamers point to the MGS series as an example of "great storytelling" does far more damage to our credibility at judging a story's worth than do any hundred games that don't bother to have a story.
Dude why would you come to a Thread just to bash a product, do you really have no life? MGS is an amazing Series. even IGN listed MGS1 as one the best games of all time! MGS is not FPS. Its a stealth game. COD is a FPS Multiplayer game. Two totally different genres. I appreciate what Kojima does with his games. Other games are still amazing. Take the Assasins Creed Series and Uncharted Series for example. Go GET yourself a girlfriend
Dude, I like the games. It's just too bad that the great gameplay is sandwiched into a game that has such a horrible storyline, and seems insistent on reminding you of the fact that it has such a horrible storyline every couple of minutes by interrupting the good part of the game (gameplay) with more insipid ridiculousness.
I played the first MGS for the PS1 when I was about 11 or 12 years old.. I thought it was pretty good. MGS is not like games such as Grand Theft Auto when they say M they REALLY mean mature.. it's M mainly because of some violence but not overtly done like GTA and those type of games. I think your kids will like it. I know I did all those years ago!
With that said, I think the story in MGS will go over their heads, especially MGS2. I didn't get it back when I first played it (I was 13 I believe), it wasn't until two years ago when I went back to play it and found the plot to be very different than what's presented at face value. But you don't really need to get the story to enjoy the games. Just sneak around! :D
Why are you bashing the product in a thread where a person was asking about the rating? Are you just THAT bored or are you a senseless hater who wants to bash it every minute you get? I mean seriously. Find something better to do.
I am sure you have already purchased this, and they (and you, possibly) will be very pleased how deep the story is, and how much it weaves historical fact with it's own fictional story. While it can be violent the main protagonist carries a gun, but thiese titles are no more violent than say, Mission Impossible 3, or many many similar PG-13 rated films. The 'F' bomb is dropped in MGS4, once, and even caught me off guard when it was said because well, it was the first time I have ever heard it in any MGS game. (I watched the cutscene again, just to make sure I really heard it) I honestly don't understand why it didn't get a 'T' rating, aside from the blood, smoking, and implied sex/drug usage. Also, a side note, you can tweak options in Metal Gear Solid 4 to bring it down to a 'T' rating, so if they feel the need to finish the storyline, it's something to think about when deciding to get that for them.
You have been living under a rock, now please go back and stay there. Your obvious shortsighted opinions make it very clear you either 1) Never played the games, or 2) Were stoned/drunk and played the game Rambo style, and didn't even try to play it as a stealth action title it's meant to be.