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21 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An investment classic returns
Ancient Greek lore tells us of Sisyphus who was banished to the underworld to push a heavy stone up a steep hill. Approaching the top of the hill, the stone would tumble to the bottom whereupon he would begin his labors anew. Poor Sisyphus was condemned to repeat this cycle for eternity.

Today's investors can be excused for feeling a bit like Sisyphus. We...
Published on December 6, 2009 by Philip Stein

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3.0 out of 5 stars Winning the losrers Game
This book is good if you know little about investing, but I don't feel that I learned much that would help me do a better job of investig.
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21 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An investment classic returns, December 6, 2009
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Philip Stein (Centennial, CO USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Winning the Loser's Game, Fifth Edition: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing (Hardcover)
Ancient Greek lore tells us of Sisyphus who was banished to the underworld to push a heavy stone up a steep hill. Approaching the top of the hill, the stone would tumble to the bottom whereupon he would begin his labors anew. Poor Sisyphus was condemned to repeat this cycle for eternity.

Today's investors can be excused for feeling a bit like Sisyphus. We have been dutifully adding to our investments over the years and watching our portfolios grow nicely. But just as the outlines of a comfortable retirement begin looming on the horizon, the bottom of the market falls out, our portfolio values plummet, and, like Sisyphus, we are forced to start over. Unfortunately, we are a few years older and, unlike Sisyphus, we do not have eternity to make things right. Time appears to be running out.

Out of fear or disgust or both, many of us have bailed out of the stock market, locked in losses, and vowed never to return. We have placed our remaining funds in CDs, US Government securities, or short-term bonds. A recent Wall Street Journal article described a nascent trend to return to the soil - people buying farmland, determined to lead a rural lifestyle with the goal of becoming self-sufficient. No matter what happens in the capital markets, you always have your land and the ability to grow food on it. Well, before you throw in the towel and retreat to CDs or Green Acres, you owe it to yourself to read the new 5th edition of Charles Ellis' investment classic "Winning the Loser's Game." Understand why you have had a bad investment experience and what you may have done to make it worse. Retreating to conservative investments or the rural life will likely give rise to a different set of problems that could leave you facing more disappointment down the road.

I sensed four principle themes running through this book: (1) there has been a fundamental change in the stock market over the past fifty years which has made consistently beating the market increasingly improbable; (2) inflation is the biggest obstacle standing between you and financial security; (3) regression to the mean is a powerful force in the markets and must be factored into your investment decisions; and (4) focusing on short-term results often leads to long-term underperformance.

Author Ellis points out that individual investors accounted for about 90% of stock market trading volume during the 1950s and 60s. In those days, savvy professionals could easily outperform amateurs and rightly claim that they could beat the market. But since the 1980s, institutional investors have come to dominate and the old 90-10 ratio was reversed. Today over 90% of stock market trading volume is by institutional investors, not individuals. Professionals are essentially trading with each other and it is their activity which sets market prices. As Ellis points out, these pros are highly educated, hard working, richly compensated, and extremely competitive. They are focused on the market 24/7. It is unrealistic to believe that individuals trading from home can compete with these pros. Trying to do so is playing a loser's game, hence the title of this book. In such an environment, the best way to play is to not try to beat 'em, but to join 'em. This is one of the principle reasons why so many investment gurus recommend low cost index funds for small investors. Let the institutions compete with each other and set stock prices. You just go along for the ride. In the recent debacle, how many individuals made matters worse by trying too hard to beat the market? If you purchase shares of stock, how confident would you be of your decision if you learned that someone at Goldman Sachs sold them to you? Or if you sell shares, would you harbor second thoughts if you learned that someone at JP Morgan was buying them?

We all hope for a long retirement. But Ellis presents us with a sobering statistic, namely that during a 25 to 30-year time frame a relatively modest 3% inflation rate will cut our purchasing power in half. If you have ever observed retirees suffering a slowly declining standard of living, you likely have seen first-hand the damage wrought by inflation. Therefore, it is a focus on beating inflation, not the daily dance of stock prices, that should be your main concern. And it is a focus on the former, not the latter, that separates truly long term investors from the rest of us. This is one of the important lessons the author tries to drive home. Ellis reminds us that, historically, stocks have provided the best real (after inflation) returns compared to most other asset classes. So, as odious as stocks may be to you right now, the prospect of future inflation forces you to consider at least some exposure to the stock market. Bear in mind that with currently low interest rates and an economy flooded with dollars to stimulate economic activity, the likelihood of significant future inflation is greater than it has been in many years.

Regression to the mean is another way of stating the old saw, "what goes up, must come down." It is a statistical phenomenon that has been observed in many fields, not just investing. You could almost describe it as a law of nature. Yet how many of us, giddy with delight at rising stock prices, trust that our stocks, like Jack's beanstalk, will grow to the sky. When lofty stock prices inevitably come tumbling down, we accuse the market of betraying us. We conclude that we have been manipulated by powerful interests out to exploit us; that stock market investing is no better than gambling. So we cash out and vow never to return. Charles Ellis sees this irrational behavior arising from a lack of education. He admonishes you to teach yourself about stock market history so you will not be blindsided by adverse market events. Educating yourself should enable you to recognize that it is unduly high stock prices that should alarm you, and that stocks offer the best opportunity for decent future returns following a market decline, not a rise. When you are instructed to periodically re-balance your portfolio, you will be more prone to take this advice seriously because you know that it takes advantage of regression to the mean.

Another one of the many lessons that Charles Ellis has to teach us is the importance of asset allocation. We are lead astray when we focus on short-term fluctuations in the value of our portfolios. The most significant determinant of our future success is how we distribute our savings across different asset classes, not our specific investments nor their performance yesterday, last month, or last year. The author constantly reminds us that investing is not a competition. It does not matter one whit who we beat or who beats us. Only our personal needs and goals matter. All else is distraction. That's why oft-published performance rankings prove to have such limited value and can be harmful when they lead people to continually question their investment program. If this book can stop you from chasing performance by hop-scotching from one investment to another, the price will have been well worth it.

In a new chapter prepared for the 5th edition titled "Disaster - Again," the author discusses the recent market debacle. He admits that while he did see dark clouds forming on the horizon, he never anticipated the magnitude of the market decline. This forced him to do some soul-searching and he thought hard about the investment principles he had been espousing for many years. Had he missed something? Was he giving sound advice? Not to worry. He claims to be more convinced than ever that the core investment principles he discusses in his book have not been discredited by the events of 2008 and should serve investors well going forward.

Charles Ellis has enjoyed a successful investment career that has spanned nearly 50 years. One must presume that he didn't write this newest edition because he needs the money. He readily concedes that life has blessed him with good fortune and he feels a responsibility to return the favor by helping others. I was impressed with author's humility. To me at least, he comes across as a true teacher, not a salesman. I always feel that it is a privilege to have the opportunity to listen to someone who has learned important life lessons and is willing to share those lessons with others. This is especially important when it comes to investing for the future. Our time is limited. We don't have too many years to recover from mistakes. Learn the lessons in this book and you should be able to not only withstand the sometimes severe contractions that occur in the capital markets, but also to recognize adversity as an opportunity to buy low. You will emerge with a stronger portfolio and, unlike Sisyphus, you will not be condemned to perennially start over.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Blunt, real-world advice, September 22, 2010
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webapalooza "webapalooza" (Rochester, NY United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Winning the Loser's Game, Fifth Edition: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing (Hardcover)
I'm listening to this audio book and I have to say it's one of the best investing books I've ever heard, and I've listened to probably 2 dozen audio books on investing. Why is it so good? Because the author doesn't try to sell you on his investing "method". He doesn't talk over your head, nor talk down to you. He is very matter-of-fact as he goes about outlining the sobering facts about investing.

I've heard some of his advice in other books, but this one distills everything down to its core. One reviewer criticized the book for having one overall slant, that being "invest in index funds". That may be true to a point, but the important thing is to understand *why* index funds offer most investors the best place to invest. The author goes to extremes to explain this in multiple ways, to make sure you have it drilled into your head so you don't go off half-cocked chasing after some crazy investing scheme. For most people (who are largely irrational when it comes to investing), this is a welcome treatment of the topic.

The author also takes time to explain many fundamental investing terms and concepts, making this a good choice for those new to investing. I'm even considering buying a copy for my niece when she graduates from college, to start her out on the right foot with salient investing advice, before she gets sucked into questionable investing choices.

The bottom line is that if you want the facts laid out bare and shown to you in different ways until you finally "get it", then this book accomplishes just that. And even if you're a seasoned investing expert, you might do well to digest the author's advice, especially if you think you can beat the market year in and year out over the long haul. (And if you've indeed found a way to do this and can prove it, then give me a call and let's do business :)
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Well written and easy to understand, August 7, 2010
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This review is from: Winning the Loser's Game, Fifth Edition: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing (Hardcover)
I first read Charles Ellis (co-written) book "The Elements of Investing" which was a quick read, and outlined the key points of proper investing,which I found very interesting. I wanted some more insight. I therefore bought "Winning the Loser's Game" which clarified the questions I had. Both books gave me the insight I needed to change my investing style with confidence. The well thought out analysis written in clear language is what every novice investor needs. I am recommending both books to all my friends. Thank you Mr. Ellis for writing this unbiased, down to earth book, with lots of insight and a good sense of humour as an added bonus.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Good advice, June 17, 2011
This review is from: Winning the Loser's Game, Fifth Edition: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing (Hardcover)
I liked this book. The basic premise of the book is that all money managers are smart and savvy. So, the investment performances reported by the media are averages produced by smart and savvy "geniuses." Therefore, by definition (of averages) half must always be producing lower than the average returns and half must be producing higher returns than average. Further, no one is able to consistently maintain a position among the best of the best performers due to the fact that he/she is competing with equally smart and savvy money managers. Therefore, placing one's money with a particular smart and savvy money manager based on their credentials alone will not give you consistently superior returns on your investment dollars. There are other more important factors to consider. I recommend this book to all beginning investors. Ellis is largely correct in almost all of his assessments. However, I do not agree absolutely with every single conclusion Ellis suggests. Other books need to be read in order to get the full picture.
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2 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Winning the losrers Game, March 10, 2011
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This book is good if you know little about investing, but I don't feel that I learned much that would help me do a better job of investig.
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6 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Not really serious, February 10, 2011
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This review is from: Winning the Loser's Game, Fifth Edition: Timeless Strategies for Successful Investing (Hardcover)
On the one hand the writer doesn't stop talking about Mr Market and his irrational behaviour, and at the same time he tell us that markets are efficient! Also he talks about all the disadvantages individual investors have while totally ignoring the limitations that fund managers have which force them sometimes to act against all reason, thus giving a good advantage to intelligent individual investors who don't have these limitations. This book is a total waste of time.
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