You Have to Say Something [Hardcover]

Dainin Katagiri (Author)

Book Description

Publication Date: September 22, 1998

One of the most influential Zen teachers in America shows how to bring the insights that arise through meditation into our everyday experience. Dainin Katagiri (1928-1990) was a central figure in the transmission of Zen in America. His first book, RETURNING TO SILENCE, became one of the classics of Zen in America.

Editorial Reviews

From Publishers Weekly

"You are Buddha, so learn to behave as a Buddha. Go beyond your self-centered ideas, your likes and dislikes." So begins a section in the essay, "Bodhi Mind," by the influential American Zen master Katagiri. Though these instructions sound easy, these collected essays are not for the beginner. The anthology's no-nonsense style and approach hit the reader like a slap with a stick from a Zen meditation teacher correcting one's posture in Zen meditation. While erudite and informed, these essays lack any humor and warmth that might entice the novice to sample the delights of Zen even further. The lessons stare up at you like figures from a spreadsheet, demanding a reader's uncritical acceptance. The essays read like the thoughts of a Zen bureaucrat rather than a lover of this rich and profound path to self-knowledge.
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Review

     "Through vivid imagery, humorous anecdotes, and an irrepressible sense of astonishment, Katagiri Roshi reminds us through this collection of talks that the heart of Zen lies in the very moment we are living now." –Stephen Batchelor, author of Buddhism without Beliefs --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

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Product Details

• Hardcover: 172 pages
• Publisher: Shambhala; 1st edition (September 22, 1998)
• Language: English
• ISBN-10: 1570622388
• ISBN-13: 978-1570622380
• Product Dimensions: 8.4 x 5.6 x 1 inches
• Shipping Weight: 12 ounces
• Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (6 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #647,890 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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79 of 84 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars clean, concise, and pithy edited versions of Katagiri-lectur, March 25, 1999

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This review is from: You Have to Say Something (Hardcover)

YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING: Manifesting Zen Insight

by Dainin Katagiri with editing by Steve Hagen Published by Shambala, 1998

Reviewed by Keith Wiger: Reviewed for the Anchorage Zen Community Newsletter

I am a thoroughly biased reviewer of this recently-released collection of Katagiri Roshi lectures. Having identified Roshi as my teacher some twenty-five years ago, I count myself as one his surviving dharma-heirs. To have another collection of his writings is to have access to a part of the treasure that was his embodied teachings. I savor these short pithy pieces, enjoying the places they take me as I digest the various morsels. It's as though I once again am able to be with Roshi, and listen to his unique speech as he expounds on an obscure koan.

A couple of Roshi's students have recently published books that describe their relationships with him. Natalie Goldberg's Long Quiet Highway and Eric Storlie's Nothing on my Mind are personal accounts of Roshi's influence on their lives. I have read these accounts with great interest, curious in their descriptions and experiences if they had met the same man that I did. These accounts are secondary sources of the dharma as taught by Roshi---almost like listening in on the private interviews of a teacher and student. Reading the various lectures contained in this collection is a more direct link to his teaching.

I first met Roshi in 1974, and began attending his Saturday morning lectures at the Minnesota Zen Center soon thereafter. I often remember leaving these lectures with befuddlement. Three possibilites were conjured in these moments to explain my befuddled mind: 1. If only Roshi's Japoenglish were more clear and complete I would understand what he was saying; 2. He was talking nonsense that had little relevance to my life; 3. Something profoundly simple and unique had been uttered and I just didn't get it. Most often I would settle on the latter explanation, as I often felt something important was occurring for/in me in being there, regardless of my understanding.

Frequently when I sit sesshin, I will come upon moments when auditory halluncinations of Roshi's voice arises within. I will vividly hear his gravelly voice intoning one of his simple and oft-repeated phrases like, "Just sit up straight; that's all you have to do." Images appear of him running his hand over his monk-bald head as he searches for a word to explain his meaning. I secretly welcome these visits. I smile in appreciation for his continued presence. Reading this collection of essays is akin to hearing his voice; simple, direct eloquent statements of encouragement to engage with this present moment.

I recall visiting Roshi in 1988 as his first collection of lectures was about to be released. He gave me a copy of Returning to Silence, and with an impish smile, and slyly whispered to me "this is veeerrry gooood." Then he tossed his head back and laughed at his pretense of purported pride and self-congratulatory manner. It was the last time I saw Roshi. He died in 1990.

During his last six years, Roshi came to Anchorage on four occasions. Many of us here were touched by his gentle, compassionate nature. Some were introduced to the forms of zazen by him. Our morning service is much the same as the service Roshi brought to us from Minnesota. In the fifteen years of our small sangha, several of the priests that received transmission from Roshi have served as our teachers : Dokai, Nonin, Shoken, Taijo, Mike Port, Yvonne Rand. We received much from this little Japanese master.

I encourage you to get a copy of You Have to Say Something. They are edited by another priest who received transmission from Katagiri, Steve Hagen. He's removed much of the unique venacular that was Katagiri's speech, so these lectures read as though Roshi had impeccable English. (Something lost....and something gained??) I find these pieces to helpful encouragement in my daily practice.

24 of 25 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars A gem, January 18, 2000

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Curmudgeon "grantc" (West Australia) - See all my reviews

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This review is from: You Have to Say Something (Hardcover)

Clear and concise, this book is one to carry with you any time. Katagiri beautifully elucidates right thinking and action in a compassionate, encouraging manner. Whenever I pick up this book I feel nourished and called to be a better person.

18 of 18 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars One of those books that deserves going over again and again, December 22, 2004

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Swing King (Cincinnati, OH USA) - See all my reviews

This review is from: You Have to Say Something (Paperback)

Whenever a person ponders Zen philosophy and it's practice, there is normally a list of names one runs through their mind concerning those they have looked to for guidance and inspiration over the years; Dainin Katagiri was just that sort of individual to me. Often overlooked, and even more frequently wholly unheard of, he was unquestionably one of the most prolific of Zen masters to have taught in the modern era. Fortunate for all of us, by 1990 (the year of his death) he had already touched countless of lives through his leadership at the Minnesota Zen Meditation Center as well as his travels all across the globe. He truly was, as some have described him over the years, a "living Buddha."

Publishers Weekly doesn't know what they are talking about concerning this book. It's a gem, hands down. They claim Katagiri Roshi lacked humor in his approach to Zen; I mean, just look at the book's cover. It's not often we see such a happy face in our endeavors these days! Zen is practice. While this book may help folks, it's not actually zazen. Which ironically is what Katagiri was recommending in this exquisite piece of work! To Katagiri, zazen was the backbone to our very life. Roshi explained here how compassion is what gives one life and vitality, like drinking "spring water" as he had put it. And for the person over there at Publishers Weekly who seemed to suggest this book will not "lure newcomers", Katagiri Roshi left them some obviously unheeded advice, as well: "Beyond your likes and dislikes, you have to obey winter as it is. Then you will learn what winter really is." This book is WINTER!

Summer, winter. Which do you like?

Seung Sahn Zen master always said, "Only go straight." So now that we got that straight, thank you Publishers Weekly, for that stellar review! As for Amazon.com customers - by all means, buy this book. It's well worth the investment.